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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1066955853985570817 get hosed
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hey for all you people who are starving, you should know that a can of beans only costs 59 cents
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Nov 27, 2018 15:55
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theres so much water outside right now. just falling from the sky.
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Nov 27, 2018 15:57
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ol qwerty bastard posted:hey for all you people who are starving, you should know that a can of beans only costs 59 cents pfft, ramen costs less than that and you can cook it in your desalinated water!
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Nov 27, 2018 15:57
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"You need sodium for electrolytes. Drink seawater idiots its natures Lucosade"
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Nov 27, 2018 16:24
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infernal machines posted:what the gently caress? pennsylvania has no money for anything but was ready to pay bozos 5 billion dollers
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Nov 27, 2018 16:36
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:can confirm that doctor who is anime i watched an episode years ago it was when they were exploring and ended up in a building of evil death vaccine robots and something happened and amy had to be left behind and fight the robots for 40 years then dr who came back with a young amy and old amy suicided herself to save young amy. it kinda hosed me up
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Nov 27, 2018 16:42
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im glad desalination plants run on coins and not, like, electricity
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Nov 27, 2018 17:15
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when was the last time musk heard audible laughter after saying something stupid?
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Nov 27, 2018 17:21
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El_Elegante posted:when was the last time musk heard audible laughter after saying something stupid? when’s the last time he tried to sexy talk grimes?
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Nov 27, 2018 17:26
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Sagebrush posted:ok why isn't there a four-finger touchscreen gesture that deactivates it and pops up a giggling anime girl in a snowsuit four finger death swipe
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Nov 27, 2018 17:52
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ol qwerty bastard posted:hey for all you people who are starving, you should know that a can of beans only costs 59 cents thanks for the fun fact
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Nov 27, 2018 17:52
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1067144622995050509
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Nov 27, 2018 18:22
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ol qwerty bastard posted:hey for all you people who are starving, you should know that a can of beans only costs 59 cents a pack of six stickers just 29 cents for sticker fun just stick with panini
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Nov 27, 2018 18:27
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SardonicTyrant posted:I try to imagine being so rich that every random post I make is reported in the news and held as gospel and it makes me scared. 
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Nov 27, 2018 18:27
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Shame Boy posted:im glad desalination plants run on coins and not, like, electricity he's telling on himself that he doesn't know what his water bill even looks like because in orange county desal water is 5 times as expensive as groundwater ofc you wouldn't know that if you only read the wikipedia entry (source behind a research login lol) which is clearly what he did
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Nov 27, 2018 18:34
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that’s rich
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Nov 27, 2018 18:36
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:he's telling on himself that he doesn't know what his water bill even looks like because in orange county desal water is 5 times as expensive as groundwater you mean sourcing all of our fresh water from desalinators would put additional selection pressure on the least fit? how is that something a techlord would object to
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Nov 27, 2018 18:39
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:you mean sourcing all of our fresh water from desalinators would put additional selection pressure on the least fit? how is that something a techlord would object to There's more to it than that: Desalinization is also raising the salinity of ocean water world wide. Not good.
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Nov 27, 2018 19:09
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of course the answer to "where do we put this waste product" is "let's dump it in the ocean lol"
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Nov 27, 2018 19:19
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CommieGIR posted:There's more to it than that: Desalinization is also raising the salinity of ocean water world wide. Not good. not really, but it can locally elevate salinity in more confined bodies of water but that's not really comparable to the changing oceanic conditions caused by climate change, which can include increasing and decreasing salinity
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Nov 27, 2018 19:27
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CommieGIR posted:There's more to it than that: Desalinization is also raising the salinity of ocean water world wide. Not good. this seems really unlikely (at least on a global scale, i know it can and does locally gently caress up the water) so i went to wikipedia to see if there's a source for it and instead found this line that was clearly put there by a company: quote:A new approach that works like a solar still, but on the scale of industrial evaporation ponds is the integrated biotectural system.[60] It can be considered "full desalination" because it converts the entire amount of saltwater intake into distilled water. One of the advantages of this system is the feasibility for inland operation. Standard advantages also include no air pollution and no temperature increase of endangered natural water bodies from power plant cooling-water discharge. [60] goes to this press release about the "integrated biotectural system": http://www.prototype-creation.de/Inland_desalination.pdf quote:Desalination is the process of producing fresh water from saline water. This document describes a building, comparable to a traditional solar still, but on an industrial scale. The building, called the “Integrated Biotectural System” or IBTS Greenhouse can produce 500.000 cubic meters of distillate per day. The IBTS operates on new and undisclosed evaporation and condensation concepts and novel combinations of alternative energy production and storage technologies available on the market. oh good it's magic 
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Nov 27, 2018 19:29
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flakeloaf posted:of course the answer to "where do we put this waste product" is "let's dump it in the ocean lol" its already full of fish poop and whale semen anyway
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Nov 27, 2018 19:43
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:not really, but it can locally elevate salinity in more confined bodies of water The problem is increasingly large amounts of seawater is being sourced for drinking water, and while desalinization is not large enough right now to be an issue, with inland fresh water being steadily depleted, its going to mean more desalinization in the future, with catastrophically exponential amounts of fresh water being sourced from the sea. Its going to have an impact. http://pacinst.org/publication/desal-marine-impacts/
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Nov 27, 2018 19:43
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its not like the water disappears after it gets desalinated, piped to me, and peed in. local salinity increases: yes duh. global: how?
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Nov 27, 2018 19:46
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:its not like the water disappears after it gets desalinated, piped to me, and peed in. local salinity increases: yes duh. global: how? Its usually not drained back into the ocean either, usually municipal water systems do not drain immediately back into their sources.
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Nov 27, 2018 19:48
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yeah, as far as worries go that really has to be pretty far down the list the energy use being the very obvious immediate worry lucky cape town got a reasonably rainy winter this year
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Nov 27, 2018 19:49
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so you are saying that the water does disappear, just after i stop looking at it
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Nov 27, 2018 19:49
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:so you are saying that the water does disappear, just after i stop looking at it .....no. Why would that be your takeaway?
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Nov 27, 2018 19:50
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CommieGIR posted:.....no. Why would that be your takeaway? im trying to understand how the total volume of water in the ocean decreases due to desalination
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Nov 27, 2018 19:51
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:im trying to understand how the total volume of water in the ocean decreases due to desalination Mixture changes, not volume.
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Nov 27, 2018 19:53
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is increasingly large amounts of seawater is being sourced for drinking water, and while desalinization is not large enough right now to be an issue, with inland fresh water being steadily depleted, its going to mean more desalinization in the future, with catastrophically exponential amounts of fresh water being sourced from the sea. lol your own source describes the impacts as acutely local i don't think you get how much water is in all of the oceans on the planet
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Nov 27, 2018 19:55
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CommieGIR posted:Mixture changes, not volume. oh where is the additional salt coming from. it wasn't clear to me where in the remove water from ocean -> desalinize -> dump waste into ocean process we are adding salt
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Nov 27, 2018 19:56
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol your own source describes the impacts as acutely local "These impacts, however, are not well understood. More research is needed, especially to understand the long-term impacts. " Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:oh where is the additional salt coming from. it wasn't clear to me where in the remove water from ocean -> desalinize -> dump waste into ocean process we are adding salt After removal from the water, the salt is discharged, however it does not tend to re-mix as readily as it was mixed at time of desalinization, and sinks to the bottom of the ocean rather than returning to normal concentration. I'll admit, the issue is just starting to be researched, but much like ocean acidity, its likely we don't fully understand the impact and that is no reason to ignore it. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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Nov 27, 2018 19:56
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CommieGIR posted:"These impacts, however, are not well understood. More research is needed, especially to understand the long-term impacts. " idk you sounded pretty clear on the impact CommieGIR posted:There's more to it than that: Desalinization is also raising the salinity of ocean water world wide. Not good.
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Nov 27, 2018 19:58
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CommieGIR posted:The problem is increasingly large amounts of seawater is being sourced for drinking water, and while desalinization is not large enough right now to be an issue, with inland fresh water being steadily depleted, its going to mean more desalinization in the future, with catastrophically exponential amounts of fresh water being sourced from the sea. also why not pump the excess exttra salty water to huge salt evaporation ponds so i can put salt on my popcorn?
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Nov 27, 2018 20:00
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:idk you sounded pretty clear on the impact When has humans dumping mass quantities of something into something ever been "You know what, this'll have no long term impacts whatsoever" been the result?
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Nov 27, 2018 20:00
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CommieGIR posted:"These impacts, however, are not well understood. More research is needed, especially to understand the long-term impacts. " yes, long term to local ecologies. this is still v bad. the paper itself defines the mixing zone in meters, maybe try skimming it the more immediate danger is increasing acidity coupled with reductions in salinity thanks to climate change
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Nov 27, 2018 20:01
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CommieGIR posted:When has humans dumping mass quantities of something into something ever been "You know what, this'll have no long term impacts whatsoever" been the result? oh yes it's p much guaranteed that supplying a significant fraction of the world's freshwater needs by desalination will gently caress up coastal zones in some way or another my questions are related to your claim that it will also raise salinity globally. that is a very interesting proposition
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Nov 27, 2018 20:07
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CommieGIR posted:When has humans dumping mass quantities of something into something ever been "You know what, this'll have no long term impacts whatsoever" been the result? i mean, look at you’re posts
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