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MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

LloydDobler posted:

I'm on board the free college train. The price of a degree should be 0, borne by society which benefits from its members being educated. Don't want to go? fine, make your own way. Want job training? Fine, society pays for it. Want a degree? Fine, society pays for it. Want a bullshit degree? We'll pay for that too. Society still benefits regardless of field of study, as long as there's a base curriculum that educates on general subjects. Someone with an art degree will still be able to speak coherently and type a readable e-mail.

The way I envision it is that you still have to attend and pass your classes or you're out. Free college opponents want to prevent people just using school to avoid working, and I agree with that. Make measurable progress or stop wasting society's money. Imagine high school but when kids cut class or skip homework they're just kicked out.

But yeah, my daughter is staring down $25k a year for even mediocre schools. I'm trying to convince her to live with me and do community college, because unless she gets some great grants and scholarships it's all out of pocket.

Welcome to Sweden! Lots of Volvos as well!

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Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
The Moulettes did some composition, arrangement, and recording with the Levellers' for their latest album, We the Collective.

If you know The Moulettes, you can tell pretty easily where they come in on certain songs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjp5JdR72mc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHU7hfSu_Yk

And they played together to reinterpret some of the older Levellers' stuff and it's extremely my jam.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liP8T6X8Qbg

Their single is so depressing it's great


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEZwzWC8a8Y


E: for reference, this is their usual stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yog7dB-QYWI

They're big on three part vocal harmony and I'm 100% okay with that.

Queen Combat fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Nov 28, 2018

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Internet napkin calculations usually put that runway length at anywhere from 15 to 26 miles.

Yeah.

Haha wow. It was ridiculous. I get that it's an over the top action movie but come on, lets have some semblance of reality to keep people from going "well this is really loving stupid".

[e] google search of Furious 6 runway is pretty funny, lets have some engineering explain :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxxjcKcB2Fk

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Nov 28, 2018

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Applebees Appetizer posted:

Haha wow. It was ridiculous. I get that it's an over the top action movie but come on, lets have some semblance of reality to keep people from going "well this is really loving stupid".

People who watch Fast and Furious films think there's any semblance of reality in them? The Rio one had them pull a bank vault with a Dodge Magnum... :v: the only thing 'real' about FnF films is the fact they take place on 'Earth' with human looking people driving things we know as cars. That's it. If you want realism you're wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off track sitting down in front of a FnF movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2ozQ4HFsE

What is this realism you speak of?? Fully agree that it's way out there in terms of realism but this is a movie where the original had a 1/4 mile drag race where it lasted for like 60 seconds and the cars changed gears about 12 times each during. It's not like the series got more stupid as it went on, it was always dumb as a brick.

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Nov 28, 2018

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Olympic Mathlete posted:

People who watch Fast and Furious films think there's any semblance of reality in them? The Rio one had them pull a bank vault with a Dodge Magnum... :v: the only thing 'real' about FnF films is the fact they take place on 'Earth' with human looking people driving things we know as cars. That's it. If you want realism you're wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off track sitting down in front of a FnF movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2ozQ4HFsE

This was the scene where I lost any interest in the movies as I just could not disengage my brain enough.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


ilkhan posted:

These days? Bull loving poo poo. Liberal snowflakes and the liberal administrator enablers have shredded that concept to oblivion.

College is valuable, to the student and to society. But saying everyone has to go is bullshit, just like saying nobody should go is bullshit. There's a balance to be struck. Trade schools for trade specific training, AA's for general skills training, and gap years before college for real world training should be far more prevalent all around.

I'm left as it gets, and I agree with that? The people that are pushing the university/college agenda seem to be the right-wing "PUSH MOAR BUTTONS DRONE! SHAREHOLDERS DEMAND MORE VALUE".
Up here in my northern socialist paradise, trade schools are pushed heavily - there was a while they weren't, but the last 2 decades has seen a resurgence. At least in rural areas.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Olympic Mathlete posted:

People who watch Fast and Furious films think there's any semblance of reality in them? The Rio one had them pull a bank vault with a Dodge Magnum... :v: the only thing 'real' about FnF films is the fact they take place on 'Earth' with human looking people driving things we know as cars. That's it. If you want realism you're wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy off track sitting down in front of a FnF movie.

Ok, I should have mentioned that I don't watch a lot of movies and have never watched an entire FnF movie (just bits and pieces on cable) until recently when I watched Tokyo Drift because my son wanted to watch it. Furious 6 was on cable last night and my son wanted to watch it so I obliged, and while I can understand these movies can be ridiculous, the runway scene was just unbelievably stupid and dragged out to a mind boggling length. My wife who wasn't really paying attention playing some game on her iPad was even like what the hell how long is this runway :v:

So, basically

spog posted:

This was the scene where I lost any interest in the movies as I just could not disengage my brain enough.

[e] Have never seen that bank vault scene, lol

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Nov 28, 2018

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Hell yeah, apparently a Spintires game released on Switch. Somebody buy it and tell me if it's terrible or not :v:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Applebees Appetizer posted:

[e] Have never seen that bank vault scene, lol

There was an earlier scene with two cars pulling it through Rio. It’s as dumb as you imagine it to be

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Have a laugh goons.
Somewhere some person showed a pic of a c64, then someone else said it made them smile, then I thought of electric dreams and Youtubed the clip of the song and the movie 'duel' scene and went down the rabbit hole of YT and ended up here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzv6EhE7Cbo
That's where I'm up to this life so far.
RIP

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Sometimes you get lucky with Amazon Warehouse.

The battery that I put in my 6P a few months ago has started falling off the cliff, so I did the phone shopping thing again. Got a virtually perfect S8+ for $313, but when it showed up, it was registered in November 2017. I don't need to start out with a 1 year old battery already, since that is the driving force for my current replacement. So that's going back.

I was looking Sunday night and a S9+ popped up in "Like New" condition for $517, which is a really good price, but there was also 20% off cell phones in the warehouse... so total was $417-ish. loving killer deal. It showed up yesterday almost brand new, battery showed 2 charge cycles on it and it was originally registered in September. drat nice.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Goddamn, phones have gotten expensive. I think the last phone I "bought" was included free with a 2 year contract. I'm very fortunate to have a phone provided through work, but they also will call me all the drat time when I'm not there. So like anything, pros and cons.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I feel like I should have known what a 288 GTO was already. How come I have never heard of this car before lol

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

fridge corn posted:

I feel like I should have known what a 288 GTO was already. How come I have never heard of this car before lol

HaHa, what the gently caress?
I guess your interview was 3min or something. Wasnt't that a hosed up car that eventually lead to the cool and good f40?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Fo3 posted:

HaHa, what the gently caress?
I guess your interview was 3min or something. Wasnt't that a hosed up car that eventually lead to the cool and good f40?

Lots of power in something that looks like a warmed-over $35k 308.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


fridge corn posted:

I feel like I should have known what a 288 GTO was already. How come I have never heard of this car before lol

...you never played Outrun 2 where you can send it sideways with a blonde in your passenger seat? Cool looking car.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
UK goons:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01CXDP69G/ref=emc_b_5_t

Very nice dashcam for under £30 today only.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

fridge corn posted:

I feel like I should have known what a 288 GTO was already. How come I have never heard of this car before lol

Wow, one of the best Ferraris ever made imo, top five easy. How old are you? I'm an 80's kid so that had a lot to do with it I think, it was the best supercar of the 80's besides maybe the Countach .

The Daytona Spyder is my all time favorite tho, take some pics please if you ever get one of those in. Some pics of the GTO would be cool too, assuming that's what you have in your shop :)

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Holy poo poo scraping ceilings sucks




Four rooms down. A hallway and two rooms to go, the other spaces don't have this crap!

T-Square
May 14, 2009

meatpimp posted:

Sometimes you get lucky with Amazon Warehouse.

The battery that I put in my 6P a few months ago has started falling off the cliff, so I did the phone shopping thing again. Got a virtually perfect S8+ for $313, but when it showed up, it was registered in November 2017. I don't need to start out with a 1 year old battery already, since that is the driving force for my current replacement. So that's going back.

I was looking Sunday night and a S9+ popped up in "Like New" condition for $517, which is a really good price, but there was also 20% off cell phones in the warehouse... so total was $417-ish. loving killer deal. It showed up yesterday almost brand new, battery showed 2 charge cycles on it and it was originally registered in September. drat nice.


I literally just came back from lunch early because I opened Snapchat with like 35% battery (at 11:00AM) and my 6P instantly died leaving me with nothing to listen to. I have one payment left through my phone plan, and I was excited to have my phone bill drop by $20 each month. Guess it's either try surgery to make it last a few months, or go look for something else. Plus side, I just got an e-mail that Project Fi went to Google Fi and now I have a larger choice of phones.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

T-Square posted:

I literally just came back from lunch early because I opened Snapchat with like 35% battery (at 11:00AM) and my 6P instantly died leaving me with nothing to listen to. I have one payment left through my phone plan, and I was excited to have my phone bill drop by $20 each month. Guess it's either try surgery to make it last a few months, or go look for something else. Plus side, I just got an e-mail that Project Fi went to Google Fi and now I have a larger choice of phones.

A long-time Project Fi user, I just got an e-mail from Google advertising $1000 in travel-related gift cards if I bought a Pixel 3 or 3XL today.

Getting a Pixel 3 128 GB for $900, getting $250 on my Pixel 2 trade-in, and getting $1000 in flight gift cards? Works for me.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

T-Square posted:

Guess it's either try surgery to make it last a few months, or go look for something else. Plus side, I just got an e-mail that Project Fi went to Google Fi and now I have a larger choice of phones.

It really isn't that difficult to disassemble. You'll need a spudger, a few picks and a suction cup opener. Also it's highly likely that you'll shatter the camera plateau glass (there are screws hiding under it) so you'll want to have a replacement standing by. Of course, battery failure isn't the only failure mode for the 6P - after replacing the battery in November of last year mine only made it through January before suffering the high speed CPU core failure problem that prevents it from booting.

FWIW you've technically always been able to BYOD with Fi, assuming you either have a Fi phone to activate with, or an already activated Fi SIM. I've been on Fi with a OnePlus 3T since February, all of the critical stuff works fine (voice/data/SMS) but for some reason I can't receive MMS (either group chats or text with attachments) and the visual voicemail system works halfway, it tells me it isn't activated but it still shows a transcript of messages. It helps that T-Mobile has a very good network where I am, so I don't miss the ability to jump onto Sprint.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



I would love to know why MMS on Fi works sometimes when I'm connected to my work's wi-fi, always on my home wi-fi, but if a pic won't send on my work wi-fi, I can just disconnect the wi-fi and it will go through no problem. I had a theory involving SSL certificates but that wouldn't explain why it works sometimes.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

MomJeans420 posted:

I would love to know why MMS on Fi works sometimes when I'm connected to my work's wi-fi, always on my home wi-fi, but if a pic won't send on my work wi-fi, I can just disconnect the wi-fi and it will go through no problem. I had a theory involving SSL certificates but that wouldn't explain why it works sometimes.

Have you turned on the Project Fi VPN in your network settings? If not, you should do so, if so, have you had these issues since you did so?

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Your work wifi is likely doing SSL inspection and Project Fi's MMS server is very much not happy about that.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Wow, one of the best Ferraris ever made imo, top five easy. How old are you? I'm an 80's kid so that had a lot to do with it I think, it was the best supercar of the 80's besides maybe the Countach .

The Daytona Spyder is my all time favorite tho, take some pics please if you ever get one of those in. Some pics of the GTO would be cool too, assuming that's what you have in your shop :)

I'm a 90s kid, though the F40 was the first car on my wall, so looks like I just missed it! Very cool car and I think I prefer the look of it to the F40.

Other classics we have in the shop atm off the top of my head:

250 gt
330 gt 2+2
Dino 246
365 bb
two 512 bb
three 308/328
two testarossa

and the 288

No pics unfortunately, not that anyone looks at this dead gay website but it's not just my employer but ferrari themselves get pretty anal about things posted online apparently so not gonna risk it

CerealKilla420
Jan 3, 2014

"I need a handle man..."

keykey posted:

I understand being salty about being poor is kind of "your thing" and all, but go out there and do something about your situation: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2968008

Thank you for posting this. I need help getting myself a better job :(

I'm tired of being poor.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



I thought that project fi (now google fi I guess) vpn was automatically on, but it wasn't. Enabled that, which also turned on the use cellular data when wi-fi sucks option, which is great because my gym has the world's shittiest wi-fi and it's easier to just use cellular data.

Re: SSL inspection, that's what I was thinking, but I work at a very small office and current wi-fi setup is just what I told the paralegal to setup (Ubiquiti amplifi + mesh point). I don't think amplifi is doing anything crazy by default, although I'm not sure about our separate firewall and officer router, I should look into that. I still don't get why that would work some times and not others.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

fridge corn posted:

I'm a 90s kid, though the F40 was the first car on my wall, so looks like I just missed it! Very cool car and I think I prefer the look of it to the F40.

I agree, and it's pretty tough to top the F40......Here's a little gem for ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKm-wcxkl5U

I hear ya about the pics, too bad but oh well. Not worth getting in trouble at your brand new job lol.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

MomJeans420 posted:

I thought that project fi (now google fi I guess) vpn was automatically on, but it wasn't.

It used to only automatically connect to the VPN when you were on one of their "approved" public WiFi networks, but now its supposed to be on all the time - regardless of how you're connected.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Fermented Tinal posted:

I think everyone should be required by law to work at least two years in food service and two years in retail.

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

The soft hearted part of me feels like that would lead to a lot better treatment for unskilled workers in general

But then I remember everyone thinks they are a great driver and that just flies out the drat window. "I can do it better than you" they screech, "I did my two years you slow piece of poo poo", etc.

I've advocated similar for years, since I've done both.
I still think overall it would create more empathy for those jobs.

I'm the guy that stacks the used plates and utensils when I'm done with them to make it easier for the server to pick up. I hate leaving a mess at a table.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I agree, and it's pretty tough to top the F40......Here's a little gem for ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKm-wcxkl5U

I hear ya about the pics, too bad but oh well. Not worth getting in trouble at your brand new job lol.

It's so sick

Yeah, if I was comfortable with posting pics I would probably be bombarding this thread daily

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

Rhyno posted:

Four rooms down. A hallway and two rooms to go, the other spaces don't have this crap!

Four rooms alone deserves a beer break. Looking great though!

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Tentatively closing on the fifth, and i already have my father day drunk and telling me how much he appreciates us doing this to help him and my mother. We aren't a very emotive family generally either.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
Popcorn ceilings were one of the worst decisions ever made by society. At least things like pistachio-green appliances can come back ironically.


We just got our grades for our big project for this semester of nursing school. It's worth like 25% of the total grade, and this school has the cutoff to F at 76%, so it's a big deal. I was pulled aside by the director of the program, someone who I've only met, like, twice, into a side room while walking down the hall one day and she goes, "QC, your map is absolutely fabulous! Graduate-level stuff." I asked her if she had the right person, the weird wide-shouldered trans person with a funny name, the map where I only used one color for all the concepts just so I wouldn't have to include a key, are you sure it was me?

She was, I got the highest grade, and this is a bad thing. How am I supposed to slide under the academic radar now?

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Darchangel posted:


I'm the guy that stacks the used plates and utensils when I'm done with them to make it easier for the server to pick up. I hate leaving a mess at a table.

More than once, I've done this while out to eat with my family or some such, and they're always bewildered that I'm trying to make someone's life a tiny bit easier.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Queen Combat posted:

How am I supposed to slide under the academic radar now?


You wear that target proud, tell the haters to get gud, then make them thank you for making them work harder to be better medical professionals.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Rhyno posted:

Holy poo poo scraping ceilings sucks




Four rooms down. A hallway and two rooms to go, the other spaces don't have this crap!
In my experience removing the popcorn is awesome. Removing it also turns those rooms into horrible echo chambers.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Rhyno posted:

Holy poo poo scraping ceilings sucks




Four rooms down. A hallway and two rooms to go, the other spaces don't have this crap!

I thought a 'popcorn ceiling' was the same as 'Artex' and you guys who removed it were truly suffering.

But that clean job inspired me to look it up and it is just paper or Styrofoam?


If you want to remove Artex, it's easier to burn down your house and rebuild it without Artex than it is to scrape it off.

Talking of fire, doesn't it being make of paper or foam make it a terrible fire hazard?

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Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
Most popcorn ceilings I've dealt with were in old builds, and they were asbestos. Probably switched to flammable stuff simply to keep the aesthetic, which is a disgusting sentence.

NOW FOOD

Cubed pork or chicken (I did pork shoulder),
Black Beans
Corn
Rice
Green chili
Like, two onions
A fuckton of garlic
Pressure cooker
Cumin
Chili powder
Broth of some sort (whatever you like, even better than bouillon is OK). Like a cup I don't fuckin' care just get some bouillon.

Put some oil and chopped onion in pressure cooker on "saute," saute those fuckin' onions. Pour like half the broth in there. Add the spices, stir. It's gonna look terrible and smell like farts, that's OK. Add the meat, corn, beans, stir to mix (now it looks like vomit, even better). Put rice on top, do not stir, pour rest of bouillon on there. If you want gravy, add an extra cup of water. No gravy? No extra water. You've figured this out.

Pressure cook high 10-13 minutes. Portion out. Put cheese on top if you're American, put pepper on top if you're cultured. Mixing in some salsa is pretty good too.



If you made the gravy version, strain the delicious, delicious extra meatwater out of the food mix, put it back into the empty pot on saute, boil down and/or add a teeny bit of flour or cornstarch to help thicken it. Remember, 1:3 cornstarch:flour replacement ratio if you're using it for thickening. BOIL THAT GRAVY. It may not look too appetizing but ignore that intrusive fuckin' thought and give it a taste and you'll be glad you did.



Put gravy on top. Eat your delicious, delicious food.

Queen Combat fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Nov 29, 2018

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