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looks great, good framerate too
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 09:48 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 23:58 |
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With a medical leave, birthday and time off next week, I shall spend a bunch of time in spaaaaaace this weekend. I’m excited - I’ve been through Egosoft’s every release day/week/month/year jank since X2 and embrace it wholeheartedly.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 11:38 |
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Gonna play Spaceman Spiff in a Mamba next week. Cannot wait. Pre-order working out. Don't do it, kids. Don't pre-order.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 11:44 |
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Speaking of Egosoft and the 15-person headcount, it’s kinda awesome how small the company is and how ling it’s been around. Their summer stream gave a great glimpse into everything - it started with a games and stuff Berndt wrote as a high school kid in the late eighties/early nineties, managed to secure a loan with backing from family friends and neighbors (the company opening photos from like 1991 have a gloriously homely feeling to them) and chugged along for the last 20 years without either bloating or contracting. They’re based in Aachen, not far from where I live, in this super unexciting (albeit very livable) area in an extended family house. They seem to hire local, plus fans and modders and keep this low level profile. The whole Rebirth situation could have had massive consequences, and I see how they got there - TC and Albion prelude took off on Steam due to word of mouth and a positive attitude from fans, and they made bank. Problem is, 40-something semi-successful dudes like Berdnt do get self-indulgent and kinda crazy at this age, and I think he really wanted to push for a multi-platform, AAA approach. It’s cool that they managed to break even despite the bad feedback and took all this to heart. I think Egosoft is perfect as a small dev with a limited scope, and not everyone needs to bloat into beeing EA or Bethesda. Ok I’m done back to waiting for the game to go live thank you for your attention.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 11:59 |
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:Being able to quickly get from point A to point B kind of diminishes the sense of scale for me in games like this. There has to be a happy medium for sanity sale, of course, but I can't wait to get in the game and see how it feels.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 13:55 |
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It's worth noting that the map screen, as I understand it, is not actually to scale. The big hexes represent sectors, but they aren't all the same size, the space within each hex scales up and down depending on how much of it you've explored.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 13:58 |
Stream back up from ObsidianAnt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqChkwJXeg He just hired an alien to fly his ship for him and travel to and from a location to perform a trade deal. He's in the shape now sitting in the back. Sigh. Take my money. EDIT: Ahh sorry, stream just stopped. Likely there will be a recording up shortly. Communist Bear fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 14:04 |
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If I like games like Escape Velocity Nova and Starsector will I like the X# series?
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 14:05 |
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Yeah, it's kind of a 3D Starsector in my opinion. If you like slow paced (but not necessarily grindy) games with an emphasis on exploration, you'll like X. Be prepared for a few rough edges, though.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 15:28 |
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I was looking at the Humble Bundle website to see what bundles were out there, and saw X4 was a thing, with no idea it was coming out tomorrow. I guess my weekend plans are figured out now
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 15:43 |
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Don't preorder you fools I hope this game is the glorious baby we all want it to be, but if it isn't I will happily over all of you endlessly
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 15:51 |
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metasynthetic posted:Don't preorder you fools Too late
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 15:53 |
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Mokotow posted:The whole Rebirth situation could have had massive consequences, and I see how they got there - TC and Albion prelude took off on Steam due to word of mouth and a positive attitude from fans, and they made bank. Problem is, 40-something semi-successful dudes like Berdnt do get self-indulgent and kinda crazy at this age, and I think he really wanted to push for a multi-platform, AAA approach. It’s cool that they managed to break even despite the bad feedback and took all this to heart. I think Egosoft is perfect as a small dev with a limited scope, and not everyone needs to bloat into beeing EA or Bethesda. Albion Prelude was a half step that was intended to take us to X3:Albion after the Hub was destroyed in Terran Conflict. At some point they started to make a Xbox game that was the basis of X:Rebirth, got halfway through and decided to lever it into the X Franchise - I'd suggest that they were running out of money, but I don't know for sure. That came out a few weeks after release; within the first week someone had found the symbols and variables in the decompiled code. On _release_ you couldn't target objects and instead could only lock what was ahead of you. That made people suspicious. I suspect more premature expansion; CCP did much the same thing in trying to find their second product. I'm happy that they stuck it out and understood why people didn't like Rebirth; they could have mea culpa'd and doubled down on the worst bits of Rebirth, but they appear to have figured out at least a happy medium. Dunno, could have hidden jank, but the stream actually surprised cynical old me. OwlFancier posted:It's worth noting that the map screen, as I understand it, is not actually to scale. I love the hex appeal. metasynthetic posted:I hope this game is the glorious baby we all want it to be, but if it isn't I will happily over all of you endlessly My body is ready for your derision. Do your worst.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 15:55 |
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metasynthetic posted:Don't preorder you fools While I can at least put myself down on the "not pre-ordered" list realistically I'm going to buy this game over the weekend and keep it unless it turns out to be completely unplayable. Even if it isn't all that good on release just having a game similar enough to X3 but with new content will push me over the edge to get it to support the developers.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 15:58 |
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So far in streams it looks plenty playable and rather polished. Also seeing the other ships docking and undocking at 1:21:20 on ObsidianAnt's new video is really neat.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 16:18 |
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I am prepared to eat the grenade for the rest of youse. Also frankly as long as it runs I'm probably gonna have fun messing about with it.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 16:26 |
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Owlfancier do you have something I can subscribe to because you show up in the threads of all the games I like.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 16:27 |
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*shrug* I guess there's probably a type of person that likes extremely slow paced, quite detail oriented, but graphically appealing and streamlined games. If you want a random recommendation I'd say Avorion on steam is a neat take on the X-type games.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 16:35 |
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metasynthetic posted:Don't preorder you fools No. X1, X2, X3 were amazing and some of the most memorable space games I played - since Freespace. So I'm going to throw money at Egosoft like an idiot because frankly I'm glad that they survived after making the horrible turd of Rebirth to make another X game. Really, there is no other game in the genre they make. Even if X4 is basically X3 with a facelift, I'm happy to play it.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 16:59 |
Communist Bear posted:Stream back up from ObsidianAnt: The recording's up, and drat. Sorry, past-self, but I preordered the poo poo out of this after the streams. This looks like X3 polished to a modernish sheen, and I can't wait to shove my head all the way up its rear end for weeks. This really, really doesn't seem like another Rebirth. ed: And today's recording is way smoother. His framerate issues seem to be gone after unfucking his streaming software. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Nov 29, 2018 |
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 17:03 |
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Even if it somehow ends up worse than it looks, Egosoft doesn't abandon games. Even Rebirth is playable now. I doubt I'll regret my choice.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 17:19 |
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Yeah seriously even if it's buggy they've done extensive post release support for every game they've ever made, so it's not really a concern I don't think. Same boat as above, they've made some of my favourite games and nobody else even approaches what they achieve. I can spare some cash to keep them in business.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 17:34 |
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Another stream from ObsidianAnt two hours from this post.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 17:36 |
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Honestly at this point to make me regret my purchase X4 will have to be completely different from the streams I watched yesterday. Or require a hardware upgrade which I am unable to afford but it doesn't seem like I need to.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 17:47 |
I'm not gonna preorder but I may be buying it buy Friday night.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 17:55 |
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Broke my own no preorder rule after watching OAs awful stream, can't wait!
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:08 |
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So... do we have a release time?
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:13 |
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No, they said that the steam countdown probably isn't accurate either because they just had to give steam a time. It is supposed to be out tomorrow but we don't have a time yet.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:15 |
Please be a midnight release.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:15 |
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Popete posted:Please be a midnight release. In germany? That'd be in 6 hours.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:16 |
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hobbesmaster posted:In germany? That'd be in 6 hours. That would be delightful.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:17 |
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I think they also said it wasn't going to be a midnight release. e: quote:We haven't given an exact time yet, and given the number of variables involved, we are unlikely to do so. It certainly won't be at midnight UTC or anything like that.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:20 |
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I think 10AM-12PM PST is the usual release time. That means playing it after I get home from work.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:25 |
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As OwlFancier said they sad that midnight release is certainly not planned and that they themselves don’t know. As there is no physical release, they can stretch dev time all the way to the end, but they made it sound like afternoon CET is feasible.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 18:40 |
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Oh wow, they gave a key to Cohh, that's some good exposure, 5700 people already tuned in. https://www.twitch.tv/cohhcarnage
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 19:08 |
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big nipples big life posted:Oh wow, they gave a key to Cohh, that's some good exposure, 5700 people already tuned in.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 19:10 |
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Does this game promise to be a little quicker than X3 because I tried really hard to like that game but the grinding was just a little too harsh for me. Not to mention the excitement of getting a new ship but then realizing how painfully long it takes to get anywhere.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 19:20 |
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buglord posted:Does this game promise to be a little quicker than X3 because I tried really hard to like that game but the grinding was just a little too harsh for me. Not to mention the excitement of getting a new ship but then realizing how painfully long it takes to get anywhere. They've introduced a travel drive mechanic whereby your ship can accelerate to vast speeds out of combat. There's also an in-combat booster option that runs off your shield power. They've also used the highway system from Rebirth which basically gives you space lanes which accelerate you on a line through a sector really fast. So they've definitely thought about the problem of getting around the place. They have, however, taken out the jumpdrive, which I think is good because it means you do have to think about where you are, but there are still quick ways to get through sectors. As to the grind, I can't speak to that but it looks like it's still very slow paced. One benefit though is that they've made stations fully modular now so you should be able to just add on to your station instead of needing to build whole new ones at great expense. Also update on release time: quote:I still don't have an exact time, but I will reiterate that it will definitely not be at midnight UTC. In fact I'm pretty confident that it will not be before 14:00 UTC either, because trying to releasing anything before the guys at Steam have had breakfast would make them very grumpy! Remember to make the relevant timezone calculations when you work out what this means for you.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 19:25 |
Anecdotally on the streams, it seems like some of the missions pay out pretty well and that it'll be a bit easier to get started, but for sure travel times are really improved. There is: - SATA/time compression like there was in x3 - "Travel Mode" that seems to boost speed 10x, to zoom around system - Highways running between many systems that improve travel speed ~5x on top of travel mode
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lol 12k watching cohh, good exposure there.
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# ? Nov 29, 2018 19:29 |