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Murmur Twin posted:
oh now this is interesting. How does brutal cop work? pod dies if he investigates scum?
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Bifauxnen posted:Hahaha... if it's something that was only possible because imgay is dead, perhaps his end wasn't so mediocre and unfulfilling after all! wait a loving minute dracula isn't... mortal? what if... well no she posted the loving pm ugh that also means in theory nobody else is playing cool afterlife/undeath roles King Burgundy posted:Oh, nice. Good point. So Rhj could do the same thing to prove it. this is what i meant by pr when addressing the bif earlier, i see how she got it confused or did she...
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b-minus1 posted:oh now this is interesting. From what I recall, it means the cop kills any scum they investigate. But I tried search the mafia wiki's and I can't find it. And I don't remember off hand what games it has been used in here.
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Dec 3, 2018 23:36
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King Burgundy posted:From what I recall, it means the cop kills any scum they investigate. yeah that's weird. I could have sworn there was a description of the role in the mafia wiki, but now I can't find it.
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Dec 3, 2018 23:49
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It's possible I missed it, who killed Solus?
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Dec 3, 2018 23:54
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SalTheBard posted:It's possible I missed it, who killed Solus? Hum tried to claim it early on, but then said that was a lie. So we don't know. I would assume a vig would claim their kill of scum, so maybe that will still happen. If it was SK they probably won't claim. And there is a chance he died to some other effect like PGO.
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there are other, more hilarious, possibilities. it's possible that solus somehow got himself killed, because he visited pod last night. that's why i want to know how brutal cop works, did solus die because he was scum and visited pod? (this is also assuming we believe mmt/pod actually used a brutal cop). there's also another person who apparently doesn't want to come clean about visiting pod... why are so many people lurking in this game.
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Dec 4, 2018 00:35
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Maybe time zones is a thing? Probably isn’t the best time for Australians to post and Kit has had previous issues with activity in previous games due to work schedule. Rhj still hasn’t proven their vampirism though I dunno if that’s cause timezones are bad for him or something more sinister. Nat 20 being quiet is also unsettling for me, considering I’ve made a big post on why I find him suspicious. I’d definitely would like to hear his thoughts and Rhj to prove their vampirism so that we can prevent trying to use him lying as a launching point for a lurkervote. I would like to hear more from Nat 20 so I’m gonna ##vote Nat20
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Dec 4, 2018 00:42
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b-minus1 posted:there are other, more hilarious, possibilities. it's possible that solus somehow got himself killed, because he visited pod last night. that's why i want to know how brutal cop works, did solus die because he was scum and visited pod? (this is also assuming we believe mmt/pod actually used a brutal cop). there's also another person who apparently doesn't want to come clean about visiting pod... Some of it might be timezones I guess. But yes, would be great if the wallflowers started posting. I don't think Solus just visiting Pod would cause Solus to die. I guess he could have used his matchmaker on himself and Pod, that would force Pod to brutal cop him. But why would he do that? That would be a super weird choice.
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Dec 4, 2018 00:45
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b-minus1 posted:why are so many people lurking in this game. It's currently 10:30am for me. So I was sleeping for a good 9 hrs (yay!) and then had to get ready for work (and kid ready for school). I'm at work now, and although I generally can bs and chat here at this time, I have a crazy amount of work today. So I will be talking more, but not for a few hrs (if I'm lucky). Sorry!
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Yami hasn’t talked all day nor have they responded to suspicions raised by MMT yesterday. Atm I’m willing to vote for him or Nat 20 primarily
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Dec 4, 2018 01:04
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Deadline is still over 48 hours away, I think we can hold off on accusing people of lurking for a little bit longer
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Dec 4, 2018 01:08
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It would take a lot to get me to vote for Yami right now
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jimmydalad posted:Yami hasn’t talked all day nor have they responded to suspicions raised by MMT yesterday. Atm I’m willing to vote for him or Nat 20 primarily Yeah, it's late there now, he's may be sleeping. But the thread was open all day for non game talk and he said nothing and the day started at probably around 7pm his time? If I got the time zones right? I was already a bit sus on Yami, so maybe. I'm still sus on Bif and would vote there to start the day if she hadn't done us the favor of proving her new vampire PR is real. She's at least telling the truth about that. Also, weird that Rhj just popped in, said he was going to reread the day, then didn't comment on it.
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I have *reasons* for not suspecting Nat20 currently. But I agree that his posting is very lacking. Like, his only usefulish comment while he was in thread was about how Pod, flipped towns, comment on him was uncharitable? Oh, and maybe, if we read between the lines, that he seems to have reasons for thinking pera isn't scum? Would be nice if he brought his mafia abilities to bear on this game at some point.
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jimmydalad posted:First he argues that because of his role, Imgay is scum. But then changes tune to arguing that role shouldn’t be a determining factor in deciding scum and then decides to keep the vote on imgay for no stated reason and heads off to bed without any justification on his part and no consistent stem of logic. Out of the other votes which could be explained for personal reasons I.e. CLord and KB, this vote in particular stood out to me as the oddest. It's interesting that you and Pod point out a contradiction that isn't actually there in my statements in order to push a vote on me. Let's run through what I actually said. Natural 20 posted:Yeah I'm not moving my vote. Flavour and role don't determine alignment, Asiina does and I imagine she wouldn't have been able to help herself with some stuff. So my initial statement is that Asiina determines your alignment above that of role and flavour. I then suggest that she wouldn't have been able to help herself. Now you could take the first part of the statement as a contradiction of the entire line I've been running for an entire day. Or you could note the second part of the statement wherein I note that Asiina's choice on alignment would lead to her "Not being able to help herself" What I'm suggesting is that sufficiently scummy roles and flavour will likely have been granted appropriate alignment as long as game balance wasn't affected by it. I suppose therefore that flavour and role do determine alignment, but they only do so through the medium of Asiina's choice.
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King Burgundy posted:I have *reasons* for not suspecting Nat20 currently. But I agree that his posting is very lacking. Like, his only usefulish comment while he was in thread was about how Pod, flipped towns, comment on him was uncharitable? Oh, and maybe, if we read between the lines, that he seems to have reasons for thinking pera isn't scum? I mean mainly I really don't want to serious business a game that specifically isn't meant to be serious business. I don't know about you, but if I put in a gigantic amount of effort into a game only to get memed by an absolutely broken scum role I'd be really really salty and there's a really goddamn high chance of that happening this game.
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It's not that interesting, that Pod, flipped town, used that to "push a vote" on you. (Also, he never voted you) Instead, we see that a town, with no interest in being deceptive, thought that was a valid argument. --- Having said that, I've had my own suspicions about Jimmy, so meh.
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Natural 20 posted:I mean mainly I really don't want to serious business a game that specifically isn't meant to be serious business. Eh, I mean, if we aren't going to try, then what's the point? Like, I don't see a huge problem with your reasoning there. But what is the point of our cool roles if we aren't actually playing? The thread will just die and we'll all meh into the sunset.
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King Burgundy posted:It's not that interesting, that Pod, flipped town, used that to "push a vote" on you. (Also, he never voted you) I completely forgot Pod was dead. Man I am useless without spreadsheets.
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King Burgundy posted:Eh, I mean, if we aren't going to try, then what's the point? Dunno about you, but my role doesn't do anything during the day so I'm waiting for some good old fashioned night action funtime.
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I can see where you’re coming from Nat. I’m feeling ok enough to ##unvote for now since I’m satisfied with the argument you presented. Natural 20 posted:Dunno about you, but my role doesn't do anything during the day so I'm waiting for some good old fashioned night action funtime. I know we’re all excited about night action Funtime, but i don’t want it to come at the cost of daytime activity. Honestly, with the crazy roles that exist, I’m leery of leaning too hard into night action mafia as hypothetically anything can be in the game and with the roles that have been flipped so far, trying to make full sense of the night phase seems like an exercise in futility. Not saying that night actions are completely useless though.
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King Burgundy posted:Yeah, it's late there now, he's may be sleeping. But the thread was open all day for non game talk and he said nothing and the day started at probably around 7pm his time? If I got the time zones right? Yeah, Yami is in a similar time zone to me and it started around early evening for me IIRC. Though he may be slightly ahead of me so that could give him less time to post. I’ll give a day before I start properly hunting for him. He might be busy during the day. I dunno where Rhj has gone. He said it was easy to prove, but still hasn’t done so? Maybe he’s in a time zone where he’s sleeping right now. Similar situation with Yami where I am willing to give a day before going full throttle on suspicions. What was the case on Bif? She was honest about being targeted by imgay’s night ability, though I’m not sure if that’s really a strong indication of alignment. I haven’t twigged anything significant on her.
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Yami's in Germany so he runs an hour ahead of me iirc which puts him at 2 am right now. Also he tends not to show until the evening his time.
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jimmydalad posted:Yeah, Yami is in a similar time zone to me and it started around early evening for me IIRC. Though he may be slightly ahead of me so that could give him less time to post. I’ll give a day before I start properly hunting for him. He might be busy during the day. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3875504&userid=42113#post490370115 That was the post where I made the call, you'll need to read the exchange from the beginning in context. She feels way off to me, but part of that could indeed just be the PR. I'm just thinking that is also a great excuse to lean into if you are scum.
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Sorry, I fell asleep in my comfortable chair and had a too-long nap. Here you are, proof. Anyway, after re-reading D1 I get the impression, based on Solus' sole actual read and vote on Bee that Bee is probably town because of it, as the case was a bit stretch on his part. That it was in "defense" of Sal and what that means for Sal's alignment, I'm not sure yet. Them's my thoughts on it currently.
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I’m so mad that imgays power is still going
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Rhjamiz posted:Here you are, proof. thanks beau Mr. Humalong posted:It would take a lot to get me to vote for Yami right now like as in the course of gameplay like you wouldn't want to or logistically because you're in a skybox or w/e jimmydalad posted:I would like to hear more from Nat 20 i do not like this post jimmydalad posted:##unvote for now since I’m satisfied with the argument you presented. fwiw, I built my role around the idea of being able to make sense of things in the midst of ffiv-style utter chaos [thug nod to kb] and then someone scrawled madness all over my goddamn wall literally two or three words nestled in a mundane post and i'll know you got em helpful stranger this poo poo had better not be a loving code Natural 20 posted:Man I am useless checkmate kkoouuhhaaii Rhjamiz posted:Anyway, after re-reading D1 I get the impression, based on Solus' sole actual read and vote on Bee that Bee is probably town because of it, as the case was a bit stretch on his part. That it was in "defense" of Sal and what that means for Sal's alignment, I'm not sure yet. i feel like you really want sal to be guilty, and that is an impulse i understand very well, but this sort of transition property guilt-by-assosh is dangerous [oh my god i could've made a disguiser role fFs]
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peramene posted:this poo poo had better not be a loving code @nat i swear to god
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Rhjamiz posted:Sorry, I fell asleep in my comfortable chair and had a too-long nap. Cool, proven. Also, that's a good call on Binus. That doesn't look like a bus, so he's pretty cleared.
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peramene posted:i feel like you really want sal to be guilty, and that is an impulse i understand very well, but this sort of transition property guilt-by-assosh is dangerous You're not wrong, that would make things fall into place neatly, but deep down I know it means very little and is probably just the most opportunistic case he could make and it just so happened to be in Sal's "defense". Honestly, the more I look, the more it looks like what I might do as scum, coming to town's defense when other town accuse them, so that I can be like "See I told you" if they get lynched.
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Hopefully we hear more from Sal today, so I can find out.
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I'm sorry I guess I don't realize what Solus has to do with me?
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Goddamit I deleted my post on accident. Basically I see where you say Solus was defending me but if you want to use that as your agenda to push a case on me you are barking up the wrong tree. Mainly Solus was pointing out that obvious joke posts from me were in fact joke posts.
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peramene posted:i feel like you really want sal to be guilty, and that is an impulse i understand very well, but this sort of transition property guilt-by-assosh is dangerous
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peramene posted:
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SalTheBard posted:I'm sorry I guess I don't realize what Solus has to do with me? Solus didn't have many posts, but his contribution to D1 was as follows: - Declared that he didn't think you were scum (and earlier that he believed your VT claim) - Declared that imgay was town - Voted for B- - Small interaction with bif and mmt - One post 'interaction' with kb, humalong and myself Normally scum try to not engage with one another. So I really don't think that should bring much suspicion on you, but it doesn't hurt to take into account and remember.
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The spoiler thing is actually extremely annoying. This is were I am sitting at the moment: I feel quite comfortable/ambivalent on a number of players at the moment. So my process of elimination, I think I am most suspicious of (in order): Yami (disappearance, weird miller claim, leaving without voting when knowing they wouldn't be online for lynching) Rhjamiz (too much lurking day 1) Jimmy (behaving differently than normal town on day 1 and nothing so far to clear him) Bif (not anything solid, but just suspicious of her) I'm also suspicious of Chaos Lord and Natural 20. However, the first called out Solus' post as scum and the latter was cleared by KB.
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