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Stexils posted:did apple actually give a reason for it getting removed from the store? I don't think Apple's said anything, but Tumblr said it was because their filters failed to pick up some child porn. But that was a month ago and they aggressively scrubbed the site immediately after that and it still hasn't gotten back onto the app store. Apple has a history of being unfriendly to services that host porn and I wouldn't be surprised if they were taking this opportunity to twist Tumblr's arm to force them to drop the porn.
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Stexils posted:did apple actually give a reason for it getting removed from the store? The official statement from Tumblr heavily implies that that is what the problem was. I don't think Apple has weighed in on the matter. In any case, I think it's important to point out that tumblr is not just banning pornography. That would be one thing. They are removing "adult content." Conspicuously missing is a specific definition of what qualifies as adult content and how adult content will be located and eliminated. I highly suspect the answer to those questions will be "we'll let an algorithm do it" and "posts/users which the algorithm flags will be automatically removed" respectively.
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Which is especially troublesome from a company that in the not-too-distant past just labeled simply being non-straight-cis as "adult content."
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Ariong posted:I am 100% sure there is a middle ground between letting child pornography (the reason it got killed from the app store) run rampant and deleting every blog that an algorithm tagged as NSFW. That would require some sort of actual moderation, and that will cost money verizon doesn't want to spend. Ariong posted:I highly suspect the answer to those questions will be "we'll let an algorithm do it" and "posts/users which the algorithm flags will be automatically removed" respectively. Sure looks that way already! 
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You know, it's going to be really fun in a few years when imgur inevitably falls apart completely for whatever reason and shuts down. The internet is an ephemeral thing. Host everything yourself and right-click, save-as liberally, I guess.
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SO DEMANDING posted:You know, it's going to be really fun in a few years when imgur inevitably falls apart completely for whatever reason and shuts down. So many goldmined threads are completely unreadable since waffleimages died.
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Tumblr ran into the open arms of Apple's child porn excuse. They've been trying to figure out a way to get rid of their NSFW content since Verizon took them over and CP is a fantastic reason because it puts everyone protesting the move immediately on the defensive. We did this at AT&T when we got rid of Usenet newsgroup access. AT&T had been slowly phasing out the service and then pulled it altogether because of child porn. I was doing all the portal email support at the time so I got to respond to all the complaints. About half of them started, 'I respect AT&T for taking a stand against child pornography but...'. You wrap up what's an otherwise cold calculated business expense in the guise of protecting children and it makes you look like the good guy and makes angry users pull their punches ever so much. Suddenly they're at risk of being on the same side as the child porn consumers so most will only push it so far. My guess is Verizon wants to kill Tumblr altogether. It's a niche social media network and they've never had much luck monetizing it. When user numbers crater after NSFW content is removed they'll use that as an excuse to shut the whole thing down. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 00:22 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Tumblr ran into the open arms of Apple's child porn excuse. They've been trying to figure out a way to get rid of their NSFW content since Verizon took them over and CP is a fantastic reason because it puts everyone protesting the move immediately on the defensive. We did this at AT&T when we got rid of Usenet newsgroup access. AT&T had been slowly phasing out the service this is plausible but they also might just actually be that incompetent
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SO DEMANDING posted:You know, it's going to be really fun in a few years when imgur inevitably falls apart completely for whatever reason and shuts down. hardware companies are behind this to force us to buy larger drives to store the things we might miss later on
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SO DEMANDING posted:You know, it's going to be really fun in a few years when imgur inevitably falls apart completely for whatever reason and shuts down. My wife, and several friends, use Facebook as their image library. They lol when I say Facebook will be gone sooner than you know.
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SO DEMANDING posted:You know, it's going to be really fun in a few years when imgur inevitably falls apart completely for whatever reason and shuts down. They've actually been trying to pivot away from being an image-hosting site to being an "image-sharing site" - which means technically their TOU now say you can't directly hotlink images, and there have even been a few cases of them taking down poo poo just because of this or blacklisting certain websites entirely due to their use of it despite the fact it was literally created for this purpose https://www.rpnation.com/threads/imgur-bans-direct-hotlinking.184720/ https://community.nodebb.org/topic/12234/we-ve-got-banned-from-imgur-breaking-their-tos/7
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Burt Sexual posted:My wife, and several friends, use Facebook as their image library. They lol when I say Facebook will be gone sooner than you know. At one point Facebook was converting uploads from jpeg/gif/png/etc to webp, another web 2.0 image standard that never really caught on. Even if most people did back up files from Facebook before it shuttered, I wonder if they would just assume those files were broken.
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Catboy Autonomist posted:They've actually been trying to pivot away from being an image-hosting site to being an "image-sharing site" - which means technically their TOU now say you can't directly hotlink images, and there have even been a few cases of them taking down poo poo just because of this or blacklisting certain websites entirely due to their use of it despite the fact it was literally created for this purpose What's the goon-approved alternative nowadays?
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photobucket of course
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:What's the goon-approved alternative nowadays? Just use imgur till it dies just like waffleimages and then go onto the next best option that presents itself. And save stuff you care about to your HD.
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tangy yet delightful posted:Just use imgur till it dies just like waffleimages and then go onto the next best option that presents itself. And save stuff you care about to your HD. And AWS
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Catboy Autonomist posted:i think you seriously underestimate how many people are using tumblr solely for porn at this point
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tangy yet delightful posted:Just use imgur till it dies just like waffleimages and then go onto the next best option that presents itself. And save stuff you care about to your HD. Imgur has a thriving community of racist internet shitheads, it's not going anywhere soon.
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GWBBQ posted:I honestly wasn't aware that a significant number of people used it for anything else. Everyone who uses it for anything else is running an instagram with the exact same content because it's not that hard to maintain accounts on both platforms and why needlessly limit your audience by closing the tumblr down?
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Catboy Autonomist posted:They've actually been trying to pivot away from being an image-hosting site to being an "image-sharing site" - which means technically their TOU now say you can't directly hotlink images, and there have even been a few cases of them taking down poo poo just because of this or blacklisting certain websites entirely due to their use of it despite the fact it was literally created for this purpose You're wrong, and your links even say so. Imgur was blacklisting sites for using them in place of a CDN to deliver stuff like banner images and forum avatars. Imgur is trying to pivot away from just being an imagehost (which is why they removed the ability to automatically generate forum links for resized versions of your images, for example). But they don't say "don't hotlink images"--they just don't want you to use imgur to host stuff that you're too cheap to host yourself, instead of "sharing content" Slanderer has a new favorite as of 08:06 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Burt Sexual posted:And AWS nah https://www.google.com/search?q=AWS+failure+rate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1 by the time you see it the cloud is fine. youre not
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Slanderer posted:You're wrong, and your links even say so. Imgur was blacklisting sites for using them in place of a CDN to deliver stuff like banner images and forum avatars. A shitload of internet sites and companies seem to really hate people actually using their sites for the thing that they're useful for.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A shitload of internet sites and companies seem to really hate people actually using their sites for the thing that they're useful for. Instagram is a good example. Read up on it’s algorithm if you feel like a headache. It can actually punish you for posting too much (any more than once a day, and really, Instagram prefers that you not post every day) What the hell web site doesn’t want you making posts
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The kind that want you to use them to make THEM money. Monsters.
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Most of the Tumblr porn will move to discord, there seem to be tons of discord servers that are nothing but porn with even more servers that are more legitimate having at least one channel that is nsfw. Discord seems more on top of just nuking whole servers and accounts if they find anything that skirts on illegal though.
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Pakled posted:It sucks for the users but it might be the only reasonable business decision.
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A website whose only users are hotlinking images and not viewing ads is worse for them than a website without users.
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I found a third party app that existed for the sole purpose of uploading and giving a forums link. I used it a lot before an update to the Awful app built it in.
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Oh good. It's been a while since we had the "no hotlinking" wars from image providers.
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vyst posted:Oh good. It's been a while since we had the "no hotlinking" wars from image providers. Oh? It's not that long ago that photobucket more or less killed itself over that, isn't it? I think it was something dumb like only premium accounts were allowed to use the images offsite? So basically overnight all images hosted by photobucket just became these ' check the image out on photobucket' things. For more info, see:  500 GB, storage, unlimited 3rd party hosting. Only 399usd, billed yearly. SubNat has a new favorite as of 21:50 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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SubNat posted:Oh? It's not that long ago that photobucket more or less killed itself over that, isn't it? Yea this one was the one I was thinking of. There were a lot of websites before cloudfront/cloudflare was a thing that prevented hotlinking as well from their domains.
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Yawgmoth posted:I'm interested in hearing how you think making poo poo suck for the users of the site is a reasonable business decision, since a website with no users isn't a business at all. Tumblr has always had trouble making money, it's basically never been profitable at all. A contributing (but probably not the biggest) factor to that is the porn. All else being equal, advertisers pay more for exposure on non-adult sites than they do on adult sites. Tumblr's probably banking on the increase in ad prices making up for the loss of users. Plus it's likely the only way they can get back onto the Apple app store and who knows how much money they're losing not being on that.
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One of the things going on with tumblr really is a fundamental problem of the internet. Just letting everybody use it for totally free is a recipe for failure but it's what the internet has come to expect. If you make no effort to police it to keep the worst people away they become a plague. However doing that properly costs money which free image sites have a history of not generating in big enough amounts so what do you do? Deliberately burning it down really does make sense.
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They could've had a better programmed Tumblr clone ready to go but did have an associated fee And that would've attracted a vehement amount of heat from 14-year-olds, but anybody who is 20 and above will probably breathe a sigh of relief if they could just spend $20 and not have to deal with all the bullshit
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