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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

you're just mad that we got the axe back

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Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

hobbesmaster posted:

...do nordic countries not have their roads hosed up every winter?

well i live close to the border of scandinavia and the only road imperfection that i know is about 12 kilometers away and its a strain relief on a small bridge. But i really am no expert on road engineering or know how they manage it. i guess drainage design and permeability in the tarmac sheets plays an important role

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Stymie posted:

yeah basically small cars (or even sedans, really) are deeply impractical to use anywhere that gets any significant snowfall

especially if you have to drive on side roads or alleys that don’t get plowed reliably

Mhhh my father always told me that the easiest car to drive on winter roads was his VW Bug. The thing supposedly was super light and had narrow tires, giving it good grip on the ice. Might now have been able to get through kneedeep snow though

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Combat Theory posted:

well i live close to the border of scandinavia and the only road imperfection that i know is about 12 kilometers away and its a strain relief on a small bridge. But i really am no expert on road engineering or know how they manage it. i guess drainage design and permeability in the tarmac sheets plays an important role

visit the ruhr area



or belgium




in both of these places you're forced to develop a mental map of all the ankledeep holes and gaps in the road because otherwise you'll ruin your car when you drive over them while the street lights have crapped out because no one fixes them

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

is "an SUV is smaller than a van" a particularly controversial statement

yes, suvs are usually quite a bit larger on the outside than various consumer vans. but they hold less inside. especially modern suvs up against common consumer vans from before everything was some lovely cramped suv

eg the current explorer is 20 inches longer, 7 inches wider, and just an inch or two shorter than the 90s aerostar van was - its even 8 inches longer than the extended length aerostar. but the aerostar got a good 130 cubic feet of cargo space in the standard modek when you got the back 5 seats out versus about 80 cubic feet in the current explorer with the rear 5 seats down/removed (the extended aerostars did another 35 or so cubic feet with the additional space added behind where the back row went)

and remember, the current explorer is only "midsize" for an suv in modern terms

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Combat Theory posted:

Google unit conversion says mpg(US) but im only trusting that one for ballpark figures
trust only your fists

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Lord Stimperor posted:

visit the ruhr area



or belgium

i only traveled the highways there but i can confirm, belgium and public roads in france have pot holes where you can burry kids in.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

you're just mad that we got the axe back

badgers were hot garbage and we didn't deserve the axe

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Lord Stimperor posted:

Mhhh my father always told me that the easiest car to drive on winter roads was his VW Bug. The thing supposedly was super light and had narrow tires, giving it good grip on the ice. Might now have been able to get through kneedeep snow though

that’s the problem, if you drive on nothing but plowed roads, then they’re fine but if you encounter ruts or the like they’re super easy to get high-centered

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

hobbesmaster posted:

subaru's CUV is literally a lifted impreza; is anyone else's that blatant?

the bmw x1 was a lifted e90 3 series for a while

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Shame Boy posted:

but if i drive a smaller, lighter, more efficient car what will happen to my penis :ohdear:

crushed in accident with giant car of tiny genitals man

Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel

PCjr sidecar posted:

the bmw x1 was a lifted e90 3 series for a while

that's how all of them are

the x5 is a lifted 5 series.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

isn't the x5's interior significantly taller?

i saw what must've been an x1 and it looked decent enough, just like a 5 door 3 series lifted a bit.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
new cars are all huge

full stop

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007

College Slice

FMguru posted:

trust only your fists

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

i mean if people who "want to be up higher when they drive" are moving from cars to smaller, more efficient CUVs instead of SUVs and trucks then that's a good thing.

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003
how about we move all the people who want to be up higher when they drive off the road

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

DELETE CASCADE posted:

how about we move all the people who want to be up higher when they drive off the road

yep

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



vehicle trends are and will continue to be dictated by whatever old people want because they are the only ones that can afford new ones for the most part

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
the 2019 buick reverse mortgage, now with ms-13 repellent!

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

askjeeves where can i buy 1200cc penny farthing style motorcycle with wheelie bar

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

President Beep posted:

the 2019 buick reverse mortgage, now with ms-13 repellent!

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Minnesota Mixup posted:

vehicle trends are and will continue to be dictated by whatever old people want because they are the only ones that can afford new ones for the most part

poo poo

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

...do nordic countries not have their roads hosed up every winter?
they have an infrastructure budget, and the whole transport infra isn't quite as geared for cars as in the US.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

evil_bunnY posted:

and the whole transport infra isn't quite as geared for cars as in the US.

pretty sure nordic countries are significantly more reliant on cars, what with all being mostly empty and like 7 people total

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

Minnesota Mixup posted:

vehicle trends are and will continue to be dictated by whatever old people want because they are the only ones that can afford new ones for the most part

what's the deal with all the touchscreens then

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

fishmech posted:

pretty sure nordic countries are significantly more reliant on cars, what with all being mostly empty and like 7 people total

but the 7 people live in 2 towns so public transit works very well.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

President Beep posted:

the 2019 buick reverse mortgage, now with ms-13 repellent!

I saw a new buick drive by the other day and went "hun" just like the ads but unlike the ads my reaction was to the thought of someone buying a new buick

Did they make a mistake? Was it a gift? Did someone steal a car off the lot? (and if so... why???)

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

it’s just a high trim level chevy. no dumber than any other gm products imo

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
the status ladder lives on. rip pontiac and oldsmobile.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
my saturn!

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Shaggar posted:

but the 7 people live in 2 towns so public transit works very well.

yeah well 3 in 1 3 in another and grampa who keeps to himself

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

a johnny come lately to the pantheon!

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
the roads in frozen socialist hellhole norway do get pretty hosed up after the winter, at least on minor routes, but they also do a really good and fast job of patching or resurfacing important roads. so main arteries are usually in good condition, but if you're not going from one major city to another then be prepared for some nasty bumps and potholes

i think the most popular car i notice here is the subaru forester, followed closely by whatever the toyota is that looks like a forester, and then loads of audi a4s for some reason

the roads here aren't anything like as bad as in belgium though

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

I got a crosstrek and the added height compared with the impreza is real nice in snow tyvm

our roads get hosed up all the time, at least the city roads. Part of it is the freeze/thaw cycle, but most of it is that your every city goes for loving cheap asphalt if they can get away with it. There's a 200km stretch of mountain road that has some of the worst winter conditions I have seen in the province, and it's been near pristine for over 10 years of heavy (18-wheelers) traffic and continuous (~6 months a year) snow plowing under heavy abrasives.

Meanwhile the closest highway has been re-paved at least 4 times in the last 6 years because they keep putting the cheap stuff on there and doing it in a rush.

You can see the same thing with the lines they paint on the grown. High quality paint can survive 1-2 winters unscathed whereas cheap stuff they put on city streets is gone after 2 winter months. Cities here have adapted by putting a paint dot of high quality every 2-5 meters, and just re-drawing the lines every year so it's cheaper but you keep visual guidelines anyway.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
you guys get asphalt, must be nice

we get pea gravel and chipseal, 2 of the biggest cons sold to transportation departments as "methods of road repair"

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
tbh farmers should be taxed to destitution for the amount of damage their equipment does to the roads

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Shame Boy posted:

but if i drive a smaller, lighter, more efficient car what will happen to my penis :ohdear:

one weird trick to remove unsightly male genitalia. sexual reassignment surgeons hate this!

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

tbh farmers should be taxed to destitution for the amount of damage their equipment does to the roads

Did someone get stuck behind a manure truck with no way of passing out in the boonies of Dane County?

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syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
i saw a

No Farms.
No Food.

bumper sticker today

it was like a thirty year old s10 or something

looks like destitution already happened

also all the farms grow weed here now anyway

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