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Jimbot posted:I tried to watch Iron-Blooded Orphans but the melodrama was just too much for me. I pushed past the harem crew despite my eyes almost rolling out of their sockets but I kind of gave up on the show around the beginning of that labor strike uprising thing. IBO is just a terrible show all around yeah
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MonsieurChoc posted:What are you talking about? People often complain that Tomino's characters are weird because they don't act lik anime cliché. They do, however, over-narrate, because Tomino had a particular fixation on not being misunderstood.
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CharlestheHammer posted:IBO is just a terrible show all around yeah 
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Dec 6, 2018 07:57
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It's stupid capitalism because their hamfisted porn bans are removing the very users they want to monetize. (While making it easier to find all the nazi poo poo.) Like I can see a soulless MBA wanting to monetize progressive stuff-- that's a given-- but when your "clean up the site" solution is an algorithm that flags anyone mentioning LGBT... you're not really encouraging that kind of userbase. Later in the article they mention that tumblr has been losing engineers to other companies without even bothering with counteroffers. If they had engineers, they could make a better site cleaner... or improve their notoriously abysmal search, or do anything to make the site actually attractive to users. But gently caress that, engineers cost money and all we have to do is trick BLM to give us money! It's just a horrible tower of bad ideas.
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I mean if like harem anime’s with clumsy messages about war orphans you do you
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Nah they're right. I say this as a huge Gundam nerd too. The Harem stuff is just unforgivable Turn A is far and away, in a walk, the best Gundam series
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Dec 6, 2018 16:08
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Waffles Inc. posted:Turn A is far and away, in a walk, the best Gundam series Except for G.
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Dec 6, 2018 16:55
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Or War in the Pocket.
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IBO has great concepts, world building, and mech design but is held back by its three conflicting authorial voices. One is trying to write about their super cool space mobster OC and his harem of totally consensual sex slaves, one is screaming "IMPERIAL JAPAN DID NOTHING WRONG" at the top of their lungs, and one is trying to do the standard Gundam child-soldier-war-is-bad rigmarole but was tragically born with ham-hocks instead of hands. (reposted from the Gundam thread)
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Which character was the second? The first was a holy loving poo poo moment for me. The series was talked up so I figured he was gonna be all "women aren't expected to do anything but be housewives but these women wanted to fight so I gave the opportunity" but was all "naw, I sleep around an all these women are conveniently into it. I'm awesome. monogamous relationships are for sad sacks." Then the show kind of meandered but kept the melodrama high until it seemed to be picking up by the labor uprising thing, so that seemed vaguely leftist but I just lost interest in the whole thing by that point that I just didn't want to bother.
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Waffles Inc. posted:Nah they're right. I say this as a huge Gundam nerd too. The Harem stuff is just unforgivable  Gym Ghingnham was such a great hammy-as-gently caress villain too.
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Darth Walrus posted:That's not an anime thing. That's a high-concept action comic thing. Jojo is adapted from a story that tried to use static black-and-white images on fairly small pages to depict, for example, a dude who can turn inanimate objects into animals fighting a guy who can unzip anything he touches with giant cartoon zippers. No poo poo the dialogue is doing some heavy lifting to explain what the hell is going on. You'll notice that it shows up a lot less in anime-original action shows, which by their nature can make better use of visual storytelling to show what's happening (assuming they have the time and manpower - the more limited your animation, the more you have to explain poo poo). Compare, say, Dragonball Z to Gundam Thunderbolt. Back in the day I was sitting in on an animation course and one of the first things they taught us was that comics make the worst storyboards; comic characters will deliver entire uninterrupted speeches while throwing a 0.3 second punch. Besides being a chance to say something, it also ensures readers don't just flip their way through a long fight scene because they actually have to read. This really sank in watching Watchmen (I'm sorry for invoking Snyder, forgive me) because he was really good at inadvertently proving that point; he was often very faithful in matching the dialogue to the original blocking in the comic book and those scenes felt really awkward. Besides being an animation hack, held poses and powering up is as good a way as any to keep the dialogue. In P5's case it didn't serve much of a purpose and instead halted the heist excitement every two minutes with "okay, we still have to steal the thing! Let's go around that corner and see if it's there!" repeated over and over.
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My only knowledge of Gundam comes from playing Dynasty Warriors 2 and 3 so lemme just say that Unicorn Gundam rules and Knight Gundam isn't too bad either. Oh and also everytime they kill Puru I feel sad.
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Jimbot posted:Which character was the second? The first was a holy loving poo poo moment for me. The series was talked up so I figured he was gonna be all "women aren't expected to do anything but be housewives but these women wanted to fight so I gave the opportunity" but was all "naw, I sleep around an all these women are conveniently into it. I'm awesome. monogamous relationships are for sad sacks." Then the show kind of meandered but kept the melodrama high until it seemed to be picking up by the labor uprising thing, so that seemed vaguely leftist but I just lost interest in the whole thing by that point that I just didn't want to bother. They at least went in a mildly interesting direction with the harem guy - while he was presented as someone trying to do good and a mentor for one of the main protagonists, his leadership model ended up being directly responsible for getting him and way too many of his girls killed when he made an incredibly dumb decision and everyone was too wrapped up in their cultish devotion to him to question it. This then serves as advance warning of what's going to happen to our protagonists, and the guy who's been looking up to and trying to imitate Harem Dude for the entire show does indeed fall into the exact same trap and get himself and lots of his guys killed (although slightly less unarmed civilians, because he's learned the importance of giving your people a sensible evacuation plan). The show ends with one of Harem Dude's girls taking over his organisation and turning it into an interplanetary women's shelter with, presumably, a less culty leadership structure. In general, IBO is more descriptive than prescriptive. It presents terrible injustices and deeply flawed attempts to mitigate or do away with them by deeply flawed people, and invites you to decide for yourself who was right, who was wrong, and whether there is some better way. The main antagonist of the second season, for instance, is a ruthless, cheerfully hypocritical schemer who commits war crimes, ignores attempts to surrender, associates with criminals, and lets abusers and war profiteers off the hook in order to realise his goals... only for it to turn out that his goals are to reform and democratise the corrupt, authoritarian political system, and when he wins, he legitimately makes the world a much better place and gives his adoptive daughter (a talented lowborn orphan repeatedly compared to the protagonists) a future that would have been unimaginable beforehand. The token princess character achieves tremendous political victories in the first season through negotiation and oratory... but gets sidelined, marginalised and eventually turned into a puppet-queen in the second season as the political situation worsens and military force replaces diplomacy as the way decisions are made, and loses one of the great loves of her life after she is unable to coax him away from his suicidal downward spiral. Nevertheless, she is hailed as a hero, gets to work with a government with an apparently sincere interest in social justice (even if, admittedly, she is very much the inferior partner), lives a comfy life with a wife and a kid, and even gets to shelter and employ some of the survivors of the now-vilified protagonist faction. The brilliant, scheming rival character helps our protagonists undermine the corrupt aristocracy by murdering or trying to murder his sympathetic friends, and then enlists their help to seize power and sweep away injustice and oppression... only for it to turn out that he's a stunted, traumatised eight-year-old in an adult's body who has no idea what he's doing and who doesn't even want revenge on his abusers as much as he wants to be a storybook hero like the ones who inspired him through his nightmarish childhood - and if he needs a war to be a war hero, then so be it. On the other hand, the damage he causes along with our protagonists fatally destabilises the existing, terrible system, and it's implied that they help shock the solar system into acting on the injustices that have simmered for far too long even if they personally end up dying messily and being reviled as traitors and upstarts. It's not a show for everyone, but there is some really interesting poo poo in it (plus spectacular giant robot action with a great aesthetic). Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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IBO owns. Between it and Thunderbolt, I'm glad that the stench of G-Reco is being washed away.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:IBO owns. Between it and Thunderbolt, I'm glad that the stench of G-Reco is being washed away. G-Reco was messy (even if you understand what it's going for, it feels like it's got a few important pages of script missing), but it looked and sounded fantastic, particularly given the limited resources Tomino was working with, and it's got a cool, immersive world and some great character animation, action choreography, humour, and visual storytelling. It wasn't exactly a success, but I certainly wouldn't place it with the worst of Gundam. I'd certainly place it above Build Fighters Try, the other Gundam show running at the exact same time. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:IBO owns. Between it and Thunderbolt, I'm glad that the stench of G-Reco is being washed away. Lol G-Reco owns.
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Arcsquad12 posted:G-Reco is getting a movie. A recap, to be precise, which is likely to be a thing of terrible majesty given how frenetic and detail-light the original twenty-six-episode show was.
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This is really not what I normally do but I decided to make a video about the banning of RWhiteGoose and Grav from GDQ events and also just kind of covered the history of recent bans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WehZBGb7WAQ
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my parents boyfriend posted:This is really not what I normally do but I decided to make a video about the banning of RWhiteGoose and Grav from GDQ events and also just kind of covered the history of recent bans. this is not a great video. for one, you implicitly take pvtcb's side. this is a dude who tweeted a 'joke' threat about shooting up sgdq and was somehow still allowed back in despite this. he and the others in his crew (cyberdemon and cfb) were all on their last warning going into that event because they were known shitheads and all three ended up getting banned for shitheadedness (with cfb being the last to be banned for telling people to jump in front of a bus during a run). they should not have even been allowed back into gdq to begin with.
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I guess I probably should have mentioned that whoever was recording Klaige was really asking for it. That alone was worth the ban probably.
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There's another video on GDQ bans that I've seen pop up in related vids lately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5TGFEoidEM Haven't watched it in full yet, so I'm not sure if it covers the latest incidents or not.
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Max Wilco posted:There's another video on GDQ bans that I've seen pop up in related vids lately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5TGFEoidEM my favorite part of the video is the one where he calls limiting twitch chat to subscribers only because randos couldn't stop harrassing a host for being a transgender woman censorship edit: The entire video is basically "wow breaking GDQ's rules makes them not want to host my speedruns anymore, that's mad hosed". a cartoon duck fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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Here comes Wilco again to just so happen to share a video by some Chud. I'm sure he'll act all surprised yet again that the video he shared was by some bigotted trash weasel. By golly how does this just keep happening. It's almost like some douche is doing it on purpose.
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Is it that hard for some speedrunners to not be so vocally transphobic?
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Annointed posted:Is it that hard for some speedrunners to not be so vocally transphobic? Youtuber gamers can't even handle not saying the N-Word so I can't say I'm surprised not being transphobic is too much for these guys to grasp.
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Annointed posted:Is it that hard for some speedrunners to not be so vocally transphobic? I mean, they're a subset of gamers, so you're already starting with a high chud likelihood, and then you're going for the ones who think that spending all day getting perfect and finding new ways to break the game sound like a super great use of their time. It's not really a recipe for people who get a whole lot of human interaction. Like it's not an excuse and there's a lot of bullshit culture, but it's not that big a surprise that the shutins aren't great at being decent human beings.
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RareAcumen posted:Youtuber gamers can't even handle not saying the N-Word so I can't say I'm surprised not being transphobic is too much for these guys to grasp. Oh, now! Everyone uses racial epithets in times of stressful activities like playing a video game. You talk like they're the crazy ones!
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Max Wilco you need to stop following garbage people
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banned GDQers are like that old flash tub where a naked guy in a restaurant complains about being asked to leave
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This is only vaguely on-topic, but long-lived piece of poo poo Sargon lost his patreon last night, after months of streams where he smilingly absorbed insults from his fans over his wife’s miscarriage and insisted he wasn’t mad, and was actually laughing. It all probably looks like time well spent now.
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T-minus till the wife leaves
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:This is only vaguely on-topic, but long-lived piece of poo poo Sargon lost his patreon last night, after months of streams where he smilingly absorbed insults from his fans over his wife’s miscarriage and insisted he wasn’t mad, and was actually laughing. It all probably looks like time well spent now. for people who gurgle about being being big masculine protectors/conquerors who fight back anyone who wrongs them, they sure don't act like it when they and their family are being super personally attacked.
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In non-garbage-people news, Ahoy has a new documentary on why the Commodore Amiga platform failed to take off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_UZsJUbwQ
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Iron blooded Orphans feels like a parody of Gundam in a way with the way it tries to be a serious war story while fitting as many anime cliches it can in as well. Also it’s love of the phrase Space Debris could be a drinking game.
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I haven’t seen much Gundam so I can’t speak to how IBO fits in with the rest of the series, but I enjoyed it a lot. It seemed to me that it did a good job of capturing how messy war and politics really are, and how there are seldom any clear-cut good guys, while still having enough awesome moments and enough victories for the protagonists that it didn’t come across as pointlessly nihilistic in the way that a lot of these sorts of stories are.
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