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Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

spwrozek posted:

E: yes I am that lazy from the gondola to parking lot at keystone...

Just sit in a wagon and have someone pull you and your gear....


Edit: Now I want to ski blade.

Moey fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Dec 7, 2018

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Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
I just drove 3800km and at no point have I encountered more than 9" of snow on the ground. :wtc:

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Moey posted:

Just sit in a wagon and have someone pull you and your gear...

That is next level right there

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

kiimo posted:

Has anyone skied the alps? I'm curious what the border crossing is like from Germany to Austria. Like, I'm wondering if I should stay in a place that is in Austria and ski in Germany or if that will be a pain in the rear end.

Something something Eagle's Nest, something something James Bond goggles.

There's no border at all, but you'll need toll stickers for both countries.

But I mean, why would you do that? If you're staying in Austria, ski in Austria. They have some very good ski resorts.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Right outside of Garmisch is a hotel I want to stay at but I also want to go to the village. It's 8 miles away but takes 25 minutes to drive and you cross the border.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Personally, I wouldn't do it for just staying in a specific hotel. There are hotels in Garmisch that are also good, I'm sure. It would be way more of a pain in the rear end than staying less than a 30 minute drive from the ski hill for sure, and I don't know what the parking situation is like in Garmisch.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Moot . posted:

I’m headed up to Aspen for a show on Sunday and I think I have my choice of which mountain to ski on Monday with a buddy pass? Would love some local input as the last time I skied there I was 15 and hit a tree on Buttermilk the first day, effectively ending my trip.

It's all skiing pretty well. Even the bowl is decent. Ajax is mostly open, Snowmass and Highlands both have a large percentage. I think it just depends what you want from your day and what type of terrain you want to ski. None of the really good stuff is open on Snowmass, so maybe that will help.

Honestly I would go Ajax unless you want to hike the bowl. Also I have vouchers for $39 lift tickets if you want em

Moot .1415926535
Mar 24, 2006

Yep, that's pretty much it.
Thanks! Sounds like a plan. Sent a PM.

Suspicious Package
Jun 18, 2004

I’m in Colorado and just getting into skiing, and looking for some jacket advice. I took a lesson out at Beaver Creek and also did one day on my own, but rented clothes for that. I have one of these on order: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/mens-apex-flex-gtx-2l-snow-jacket-nf0a3igc

I liked the soft shell feel of it, but it is insulated and a lot of advice I hear is try to stay away from insulation. Anyone have experience with one like this and not get too hot? Should I really think about returning for a shell?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Suspicious Package posted:

I’m in Colorado and just getting into skiing, and looking for some jacket advice. I took a lesson out at Beaver Creek and also did one day on my own, but rented clothes for that. I have one of these on order: https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/mens-apex-flex-gtx-2l-snow-jacket-nf0a3igc

I liked the soft shell feel of it, but it is insulated and a lot of advice I hear is try to stay away from insulation. Anyone have experience with one like this and not get too hot? Should I really think about returning for a shell?

Yeah, I'd recommend getting one that has a removable liner instead of having insulation. Its better for warm days and also lets you wash it more easily. On the other hand, its not horrible or crazy to get one with insulation, it'll just be less flexible in terms of options

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

100g is not much insulation. You will just not need an additional base layer. You might be hot in March. It will be a good jacket from November to March 1st. Open the pit zips if hot. Overall fine jacket.

E: I only get jackets without insulation though personally. Also in Colorado.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Same. I’m firmly in the camp of having just a shell that you can add layers to for warmth as needed.

OP - I’ve found a lot of last years jackets and ski clothes with tags for super cheap on eBay. I got my North Face jacket shell and removable fleece for $100, retail was close to $300.

Suspicious Package
Jun 18, 2004

Thanks. I tried the jacket in a store and the insulation did not seem to be too much, so I’m sure I’d be happy with it in most instances.


big crush on Chad OMG posted:

Same. I’m firmly in the camp of having just a shell that you can add layers to for warmth as needed.

OP - I’ve found a lot of last years jackets and ski clothes with tags for super cheap on eBay. I got my North Face jacket shell and removable fleece for $100, retail was close to $300.

Was it this one? https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/mens-apex-storm-peak-triclimate-jacket-nf0a3ifm

I was really considering that one, but it wasn’t in store and I couldn’t try it on. I tried the thermoball one and it felt a little restrictive, but that’s a different design. Maybe I should troll eBay some more.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Landsknecht posted:

well I mean what does 5 days of skiing in CO or utah cost a family of four coming from the NE? It's not cheap

Having skied in Euro resorts all my life it was a surprise to find out a lift pass in Salt City is 3x as expensive as Zermatt. Went to Whistler instead which was only 2x.

There is nothing else about Zermatt that makes it look good value though.

waffle enthusiast
Nov 16, 2007



spwrozek posted:

E: I only get jackets without insulation though personally. Also in Colorado.

ayup. I'm super lazy so I just buy a shell that's packable and can go four seasons, then stuff a ton of random stuff (wool/synthetic/fleece/puffy) underneath it depending on the weather.

waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Dec 8, 2018

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Suspicious Package posted:

Thanks. I tried the jacket in a store and the insulation did not seem to be too much, so I’m sure I’d be happy with it in most instances.


Was it this one? https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/mens-apex-storm-peak-triclimate-jacket-nf0a3ifm

I was really considering that one, but it wasn’t in store and I couldn’t try it on. I tried the thermoball one and it felt a little restrictive, but that’s a different design. Maybe I should troll eBay some more.

Not that exact one but very similar.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

Yeah I also really prefer shell jackets. I have a few different mid layers and I honestly have never been more comfortable. CO skier as well. These cold, stormy days have been made manageable by a good down midlayer.

The other advantage of a shell jacket is that you're getting better waterproofing and breathability. I definitely feel like a cheaper 2L shell is so superior with regard to wind proofing that you have superior heat retention, while the breathability makes sure you're never soggy.

Do it right the first time. A good shell is an investment that will last for years.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Eejit posted:


Also I have vouchers for $39 lift tickets if you want em

I got one of these from a coworker. I might come up this week and ride on Wednesday if I feel like using it. I doubt I use all of my 5 days anyway, but a $40 lift ticket with these early season conditions is hard to beat.

What's this poo poo about Eldora charging for parking? It probably won't effect me since I ride during the week, but man that sucks.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Denis Spitsov of Russia here, showing that cross country skiing can be hard to swallow.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I need some help.

My family and I are taking a trip to Colorado for a few days after Christmas, and I’m hoping to do some skiing during two of those days. However none of my old ski clothes fit anymore, so I pretty much need to buy a whole new set of ski wear.

Here’s the problem, though. We only have about $300 to spend on this, total. Based on the prices of stuff I’ve seen online, I’m not sure it’s even possible to put together a serviceable ski outfit for that little money. This is also coming out of my Christmas present fund, so the less we spend on it the better.

Please help me put together a cheap ski ensemble (or tell me if it’s impossible).

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



I. M. Gei posted:

I need some help.

My family and I are taking a trip to Colorado for a few days after Christmas, and I’m hoping to do some skiing during two of those days. However none of my old ski clothes fit anymore, so I pretty much need to buy a whole new set of ski wear.

Here’s the problem, though. We only have about $300 to spend on this, total. Based on the prices of stuff I’ve seen online, I’m not sure it’s even possible to put together a serviceable ski outfit for that little money. This is also coming out of my Christmas present fund, so the less we spend on it the better.

Please help me put together a cheap ski ensemble (or tell me if it’s impossible).

https://www.kitlender.com

Suspicious Package
Jun 18, 2004

I. M. Gei posted:

I need some help.

My family and I are taking a trip to Colorado for a few days after Christmas, and I’m hoping to do some skiing during two of those days. However none of my old ski clothes fit anymore, so I pretty much need to buy a whole new set of ski wear.

Here’s the problem, though. We only have about $300 to spend on this, total. Based on the prices of stuff I’ve seen online, I’m not sure it’s even possible to put together a serviceable ski outfit for that little money. This is also coming out of my Christmas present fund, so the less we spend on it the better.

Please help me put together a cheap ski ensemble (or tell me if it’s impossible).

Here is another option: https://www.mountainthreads.com/

I used them when I did a clothing rental. They are located in Golden, CO just off I-70 going into the mountains. You can pick up your gear on the way out there and drop it off in their drop box on the way back. Prices are pretty reasonable. I’d reserve you gear online before you go, or give them a call.

Edit: I think they also do deliveries if that location isn’t convenient for you.

Suspicious Package fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 8, 2018

ironlung
Dec 31, 2001

Moot . posted:

I’m headed up to Aspen for a show on Sunday and I think I have my choice of which mountain to ski on Monday with a buddy pass? Would love some local input as the last time I skied there I was 15 and hit a tree on Buttermilk the first day, effectively ending my trip.

Ajax is my favorite mountain and it's skiing great right now but if you're only here for a day and have only ever skied Buttermilk, hike the bowl @ Highlands. If you're feeling ambitious you could do a bowl hike in the morning then hop on the shuttle (10-15min) and ski Ajax in the afternoon.

ironlung fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Dec 8, 2018

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

fknlo posted:

I got one of these from a coworker. I might come up this week and ride on Wednesday if I feel like using it. I doubt I use all of my 5 days anyway, but a $40 lift ticket with these early season conditions is hard to beat.

What's this poo poo about Eldora charging for parking? It probably won't effect me since I ride during the week, but man that sucks.

I'll be skiing Ajax for a few hours in Wednesday, lemme know if you come up

ironlung posted:

Ajax is my favorite mountain and it's skiing great right now but if you're only here for a day and have only ever skied Buttermilk, hike the bowl @ Highlands. If you're feeling ambitious you could do a bowl hike in the morning then hop on the shuttle (10-15min) and ski Ajax in the afternoon.

Yeah skiing Highlands today and it's stupid good. Coverage is superb and the bowl is lit, did 3 laps because it was so much fun. Would agree the hike is probably worth prioritizing Highlands, but if you aren't going to ski the bowl, I would still probably stay Ajax

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
First powder day of the season, Blackcomb Gondola breaks down, everyone goes to the Whistler gondola and the lineup reached the bus loop LOL.

Glad I was a bit sick and decided to wait until Thursday's better powder day instead.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

HookShot posted:

First powder day of the season, Blackcomb Gondola breaks down, everyone goes to the Whistler gondola and the lineup reached the bus loop LOL.

Glad I was a bit sick and decided to wait until Thursday's better powder day instead.

Holy moly.

Didn't get out last weekend due to social commitments; hopefully get out this weekend to Louise.

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.

Ola posted:

Denis Spitsov of Russia here, showing that cross country skiing can be hard to swallow.



apparently Nordic skiers consistently have the highest vo2 max of any athletes

i totally believe it because it is loving relentless

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

Spime Wrangler posted:

apparently Nordic skiers consistently have the highest vo2 max of any athletes

i totally believe it because it is loving relentless

My mom, who was a nordic skier when she was younger, but never professionally, just like did it on weekends and went to Finland to do races that were like 200km long got her v02 max tested at one of those professional facilities once before she moved to Canada and scored in the high 50s.

Cross country skiers are ridiculous and insane.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Cross country skiing has always seemed like one step above torture. Why anyone would do it for fun is a mystery to me

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Spime Wrangler posted:

apparently Nordic skiers consistently have the highest vo2 max of any athletes

i totally believe it because it is loving relentless

In this case, he just didn't agree with the sports drink he got during the race. Many athletes struggle with this apparently, in all sorts of endurance sports. He was actually faster after throwing up!


The Glumslinger posted:

Cross country skiing has always seemed like one step above torture. Why anyone would do it for fun is a mystery to me

Not gonna lie, some trips have felt pretty close to torture, but it really is whatever you make of it. It can be leisurely hiking, family snow play, winter Zen, long distance or mountain touring, winter dog walking, low impact cardio workout etc etc. I need a bit of cardio in my life to offset various preferences such as butter and computers, cross country skiing is such good training and so much fun, it motivates me to work out in the summer as well so I can get better at it. Trying to nail technique and gaining gradual improvements is also a big motivator, as it is in alpine skiing and many other sports as well. Also, slow downhills feel fast, fast downhills feel ridiculously fast.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Ola posted:

In this case, he just didn't agree with the sports drink he got during the race. Many athletes struggle with this apparently, in all sorts of endurance sports. He was actually faster after throwing up!


Not gonna lie, some trips have felt pretty close to torture, but it really is whatever you make of it. It can be leisurely hiking, family snow play, winter Zen, long distance or mountain touring, winter dog walking, low impact cardio workout etc etc. I need a bit of cardio in my life to offset various preferences such as butter and computers, cross country skiing is such good training and so much fun, it motivates me to work out in the summer as well so I can get better at it. Trying to nail technique and gaining gradual improvements is also a big motivator, as it is in alpine skiing and many other sports as well. Also, slow downhills feel fast, fast downhills feel ridiculously fast.

All downhill sections on cross country skis are Bad. I've been cleared to start doing some xc in January so will at least be able to get back on the snow :)

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

The forecast for snow in the Pacific Northwest is insane.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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spwrozek posted:

The forecast for snow in the Pacific Northwest is insane.

It needs to be. We're still skiing only WROD.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

xylo posted:

It needs to be. We're still skiing only WROD.

canadian rockies has had time for a really bad layer to build up, so the whole backcountry should probably flush this weekend

*PUNCH*
Jul 8, 2007
naked on the internet
I’ve got the chance to hit crystal tomorrow, I’m super excited, but a little worried that it’s gonna be coreshot city with so much fresh and absolutely no base. My guess is that this snow is gonna fall heavy, which helps, but I’m not sure how cautious I should be...

Also, hahahahaha my legs are a joke right now and I’m in no way ready for a pow day

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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*PUNCH* posted:

I’ve got the chance to hit crystal tomorrow, I’m super excited, but a little worried that it’s gonna be coreshot city with so much fresh and absolutely no base.
I'll be at crystal tomorrow and I'm expecting you'll probably only want to hit downhill and queens area mostly. Green valley might be okay but that's iffy - and if it is, that will be tracked in less then 2 hours.

e: scratch that. queens and rex won't be open. you'll have green valley, chinook and the gondola looks like. means you'll probably have to hike back from green valley to the gondola to get back down still :( and yeah rock ski still highly advised.

btw, I went skiing just over a week ago and did some hiking from the top of chinook to the runs just above it (upper arwine -> deer fly/ferk's) and yeah it was coreshot city for certain. I don't expect that to change tomorrow -- especially if you have to download on the gondola still.

xylo fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Dec 12, 2018

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Rained all day at Mt. Hood, but still had some fun. Got totally soaked by the end of it. On the drive home there was a small rockslide and I hit a rock the size of a large pumpkin or regular sized watermelon. Pretty much destroyed one tire rim, but luckily there was a pull off about a quarter mile after. Luckily the rain washed away the ice and I made it back to town on 3 studded tires and one non studded spare. Tire place won't have a wheel for me for two days, but I work then and don't care. Should be mountain ready by my next day off, Sunday.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Trew has all bibs 31% off tomorrow

*PUNCH*
Jul 8, 2007
naked on the internet

xylo posted:

I'll be at crystal tomorrow and I'm expecting you'll probably only want to hit downhill and queens area mostly. Green valley might be okay but that's iffy - and if it is, that will be tracked in less then 2 hours.

e: scratch that. queens and rex won't be open. you'll have green valley, chinook and the gondola looks like. means you'll probably have to hike back from green valley to the gondola to get back down still :( and yeah rock ski still highly advised.

btw, I went skiing just over a week ago and did some hiking from the top of chinook to the runs just above it (upper arwine -> deer fly/ferk's) and yeah it was coreshot city for certain. I don't expect that to change tomorrow -- especially if you have to download on the gondola still.

Too bad about the queen - and kinda surprising honestly - but it is what it is I guess. Probably good luck to ease myself back in rather than throw myself down brain damage on day 2.

Blue coat, blue backpack, gray pants, black helmet, probably some old Cham 1’s. Say hi!

edit: Trip report: it's good folks. Ended up breaking out the new boards and didn't even coreshot. Way better than I expected! Had a fun morning choppin' crud, moguling, lapping the low groomers and generally remembering what I'm doing. Once they opened snorting elk bowl (which I also wasn't expecting) I just lapped that and reaped the powder harvest until my legs gave out. Nice, heavy, base-building snow, the kind I like to see this time of year. I had really low expectations but it turned out to be a really solid day all around. Really, really nice season opener!

*PUNCH* fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Dec 13, 2018

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waffle enthusiast
Nov 16, 2007



Finally got up to Winter Park. First turns in something like 18 months, since I had hot-brain all last season.

I didn’t realize they don’t even have the boxes strung up on the gondola named…*checks notes*…The Gondola.

The best part: my son appears to have picked up where he left off. We hit some blue-blacks and he’s champing at the bit to get to the bigger bumps. I’m trying to pump the brakes since I want to make sure he gets technique time, but there is nothing to get you stoked like watching your kid link bump turns.

Oh, also I can’t stop checking out how people are carrying their skis now.

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