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So I'm a big Smiths fan but have never really had the urge to delve into Morrissey's solo stuff, that is until this most recent Smiths kick I've been on. He has a lot of material, are all his albums on an even keel or are some standouts and others kinda meh? Is there a good entry point or start from the beginning?
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Aug 20, 2018 21:24
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Stelio Kontos posted:So I'm a big Smiths fan but have never really had the urge to delve into Morrissey's solo stuff, that is until this most recent Smiths kick I've been on. He has a lot of material, are all his albums on an even keel or are some standouts and others kinda meh? Is there a good entry point or start from the beginning? Given what a massive oval office Morrissey is these days, the only moral choice is to pirate everything he's done as a solo artist and make your own mind up. kingturnip fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Aug 20, 2018 22:53
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kingturnip posted:Given what a massive oval office Morrissey is these days, the only moral choice is to pirate everything he's done as a solo artist and make your own mind up. I use Spotify and don't really care about his personal life.
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Aug 20, 2018 23:14
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His early work has a handful of late 80's/early 90's "hit alternative singles." If you're not too concerned about missing deep cuts off his first solo LP, then I'd jump in at Bona Drag. It was his second official release, but still has some heavy weight with "Suedehead" and "Everyday is Like Sunday" along with "November Spawned a Monster", and "Last of the Famous International Playboys." The thing about Morrissey solo, in my opinion, is that it took some trial and error before he settled on a sound that worked. It's readily apparent in his early releases what Marr was bringing to the table with The Smiths. Your Arsenal brings a fully realized band to the table, and it's easily one of his most consistent sounding solo records. Definitely worth a listen. Vauxhall and I is probably my favorite solo release from him, with some stellar tracks ("Spring-Heeled Jim", "Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself", "Speedway", and the opener "Now My Heart is Full" are all super good) and not really a bad moment on the record for me. Post Vauxhall and I it really depends on how much you want to crawl up the Mozzer's arse. The follow up Southpaw Grammar was really weird, with some 10+ minute tracks heavy on instrumental passages. I remember owning Maladjusted and it being ultimately forgettable with a few tracks about Morrissey's pissiness over the legal proceedings between him and his ex-bandmates being the only thing memorable. The aughts and beyond have been hit or miss. He's settled into a glammy brit rock sound just nicely, but other than a few singles nothing every really heart hard for me. TL;DR - Go for Bona Drag if you want the classic singles from his early solo output. Check out Your Arsenal and Vauxhall and for solid song writing. Keep digging into the later LP's and SEVERAL compilations if you just can't get enough of the dude.
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Aug 20, 2018 23:50
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Stelio Kontos posted:So I'm a big Smiths fan but have never really had the urge to delve into Morrissey's solo stuff, that is until this most recent Smiths kick I've been on. He has a lot of material, are all his albums on an even keel or are some standouts and others kinda meh? Is there a good entry point or start from the beginning? I love The Smiths. I respect Morrissey's body of work, but I don't know it too well. That said, I like Viva Hate. I also like many of his singles after that ("First of the Gang," "Last of the Famous International Playboys," "Irish Blood English Heart") but nothing tops "Suedehead" and "Everyday Is Like Sunday," so that makes that album particularly enjoyable for me.
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Aug 21, 2018 02:47
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I’m the guy who prefers Morrisey’s solo work to The Smiths, it’s me. Viva Hate, Bona Drag, Your Arsenal and Vauxhall and I are all stone cold classics. That said, the low points of his solo work are far worse than the low points of The Smiths.
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Aug 21, 2018 04:45
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There's a 3 CD set featuring all the singles from 88 to 95. There's a bunch of good b-sides you can't get anywhere else, and that will mean you can avoid a few compilations, including Bona Drag and World of Morrissey. Your arsenal is a really good glam rock record, and is pretty strong throughout. For the newer stuff: You Are the Quarry was a pretty good come back, and is mostly strong throughout, featuring a more modest Morrissey. Ringleader of the Tormentors has a few good songs, but they were all culled as singles. Beyond that, it's really dire with bad mixing and unmemorable songs. Years of Refusal is really good, and despite some scary song titles, it's actually not really embarrassing. And then something changed. Morrissey went off the deep end. World Peace is None of Your Business has some good songs, especially on the deluxe edition, but some of the political songs are... disgusting. Like, the title track. I didn't even listen to the last album since he's taken a turn for the far right and I just don't want to deal with a pissy 60 year old singer who is past his prime complaining about how he isn't on top of the charts and then running his mouth saying horrible things about sexual assaults and immigrants. As he said in the 80s: you silly old man... Get off the stage.
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Aug 21, 2018 17:40
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Thank you all for the solid suggestions!
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Aug 21, 2018 20:56
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Can I get a listening order for getting into Bjork and her various bands? I've never really dived into her stuff, so I'd kinda like to know which albums to jump into first without just going chronologically. If there's stuff to avoid, lemme know what those are too? If it helps, my favorite song of hers, and the one that inspired this post, is "Birthday" by The Sugar Cubes.
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Sep 12, 2018 20:33
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Franchescanado posted:Can I get a listening order for getting into Bjork and her various bands? I've never really dived into her stuff, so I'd kinda like to know which albums to jump into first without just going chronologically.
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Sep 13, 2018 01:05
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Life's Too Good is the best Sugarcubes album and a very good place to start with them. For Bjork's solo career I think Post or Homogenic are good starting points, the former is the easier listen but the latter is her actual best album in my opinion (and a masterpiece frankly). Debut is fun but maybe a little dated as it leans a bit too much on the 90s dance sound. Incidentally I've been on a Bjork kick myself the last week and Volta is a lot better than I remembered it being. It's not her best work by any means but there is some good stuff there. I feel like it might be underrated?
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Sep 13, 2018 07:36
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Fenrir posted:Ironically, that's the general recommendation with Bjork. The early stuff (Debut and Post) is more focused and she kinda spirals out into various styles from there. Glare Seethe posted:Life's Too Good is the best Sugarcubes album and a very good place to start with them. For Bjork's solo career I think Post or Homogenic are good starting points, the former is the easier listen but the latter is her actual best album in my opinion (and a masterpiece frankly). Debut is fun but maybe a little dated as it leans a bit too much on the 90s dance sound. Alright, then chronologically it is, with an emphasis on those albums. Thanks, friends.
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Sep 13, 2018 12:19
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Neurosis?
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Sep 14, 2018 18:22
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Kvlt! posted:Neurosis? Really any album from Souls at Zero through The Eye of Every Storm works fine but my personal favorite and their masterpiece is Through Silver and Blood. SaZ is when they started playing that style though and it rips.
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Sep 14, 2018 18:34
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John Fahey?
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Sep 16, 2018 04:59
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Radio Spiricom posted:John Fahey? I started with America and it's probably still my favorite of the ones that I have (but that's only like five or six albums).
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Sep 16, 2018 06:27
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Since they just added the catalog to Spotify...Bikini Kill?
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Sep 18, 2018 21:37
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Joose Caboose posted:Since they just added the catalog to Spotify...Bikini Kill? The Singles gives you their best stuff chronologically. Then move on to other Kathleen Hanna stuff, especially Le Tigre. Then onto other awesome femi-punk bands like The Red Aunts or Sleater Kinney. Then onto awesome modern femi-punk bands like Good Throb, Runt or Special Interest.
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Sep 18, 2018 22:00
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Japanese metal band Sigh?
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Sep 19, 2018 03:10
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Alvarez IV posted:Japanese metal band Sigh? That's a tricky one. Imaginary Sonicscape is the magnum opus. Scorn Defeat is the most raw and straightforward. Hangman's Hymn is the most aggressive.
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Sep 19, 2018 04:05
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Henchman of Santa posted:That's a tricky one. Imaginary Sonicscape is the magnum opus. Scorn Defeat is the most raw and straightforward. Hangman's Hymn is the most aggressive. In Somniphobia is my favorite, it’s just so... bombastic. Also it’s neat that the first letter of all their albums chronologically is S I G H S I G H S I G H... talk about sticking to a gimmick.
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Sep 19, 2018 04:15
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Alvarez IV posted:Japanese metal band Sigh? Start with Scorn Defeat and then stop listening whenever they get too stupid and wacky for you
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Sep 19, 2018 05:16
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it's been like 30 years since i listened to sigh but i recall particularly liking hail horror hail and being kind meh on the rest i think they were only up to G #2 at that point tho
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Sep 19, 2018 06:39
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The other thing about Sigh is they don't even have like, a peak era or even eras with a particular sound. Hail Horror Hail -> Scenario IV -> Imaginary Sonicscape is the only group that all sounds like it's definitely the same band. I guess Scenes From Hell is like Hangman's Hymn with worse production but that's the only other time consecutive records sounded alike.
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Sep 19, 2018 06:46
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Calypso music? Totally new to the genre so hit me with the classics and/or people and groups you really like!
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Oct 22, 2018 21:28
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Kvlt! posted:Calypso music? Totally new to the genre so hit me with the classics and/or people and groups you really like! Harry Belafonte and David Rudder are the two biggest names. A meaty compilation is really all you need for either, though they have a lot of great hidden gems if you want to dig in. There's also Mighty Sparrow, and you've almost certainly heard some songs by David Johansen.
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Oct 23, 2018 23:44
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Any resources for finding live shows without waves of cell phone waving retards recording, obscuring, and ruining everything?
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Oct 24, 2018 01:30
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baquerd posted:Any resources for finding live shows without waves of cell phone waving retards recording, obscuring, and ruining everything? See somebody crotchety like Neil Young or Jeff Mangum I guess. One time I saw Mayhem and they specifically asked people not to use their phones. Someone pulled out a whole drat tablet and started filming while people threw stuff at him.
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Oct 24, 2018 01:59
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baquerd posted:Any resources for finding live shows without waves of cell phone waving retards recording, obscuring, and ruining everything? Death metal. People still do that poo poo but they stand back or say off to the side so their phones don't get smashed in the pit.
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Oct 24, 2018 13:33
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We just saw The The in San Francisco last month and the venue (Masonic) posted in a lot of places- before you came in/and once you were inside - that no cell phones were to be used and Matt was a little crotchety and actually called out a few specific people during the show (and when I say call out, I mean, he requested security deal with them) - there was a little rejoicing after he spoke up
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Oct 24, 2018 18:56
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The Fall?
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Oct 25, 2018 01:57
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Red Ryder posted:The Fall? Early stuff - Grotesque, any Rough Trade singles collection (Superior Viaduct have one great coming up) Mid years - Bend Sinister, Extricate Later stuff - The Real New Fall LP These are not the best ones necessarily, but are probably the most accessible. Stuff for fans only - Totale's Turns, Levitate, Room to Live
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Oct 25, 2018 07:40
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Coheed and Cambria? The only songs I can think of that I've heard are Welcome Home & Unheavenly Creatures. I like the former much more than the latter.
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Dec 4, 2018 19:33
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How about Jimi Tenor? I had the Cinema Dadaab EP from this year pop up in my feed and enjoyed it a lot. I also checked out the album w/ kabu kabu as well, same thing
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Dec 6, 2018 18:53
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Intervision and Organism are the "important" albums but they sound preeetty late 90s so ymmv
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Dec 6, 2018 19:01
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kumba posted:Coheed and Cambria? good apollo i'm burning star iv is basically a greatest hits album and features, you guessed it, welcome home from there if you want more heavy go forward and if you want less heavy go backwards
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Dec 11, 2018 00:38
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Where do I start with Queens of the Stone Age?
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Dec 15, 2018 03:32
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Junpei posted:Where do I start with Queens of the Stone Age? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS8LvHT_zcQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5BQLo4FXrc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQYZG4sLbk
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Dec 15, 2018 03:44
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Songs For The Deaf is probably their most accessible. It has No One Knows and Go With The Flow which you've likely already heard, but also other great songs like: Seconding this. It and Rated R are generally considered the big Queens albums, although I think Like Clockwork is better than Rated R. Also check out Kyuss if you don’t know them.
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Dec 15, 2018 04:06
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Yeah, Songs for the Deaf is the right place to start. Go back in time if you like the heavier bits, and forward if you like the poppier parts.
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