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Hobo Clown posted:It's a little confusing because the game railroads you into being an rear end in a top hat on those missions for the first couple chapters, you can't stop even when you start feeling guilty about it, so when the game starts getting super heavy into the "Arthur wants to try to be a good person before he dies" you just assume that not interacting with Strauss at all is the better way to go. Not sure how they could've done it differently, though. This game has a lot of false choice in it. After recruiting Sadie in the beginning I figured that recruiting strangers in to your gang of outlaws would be a huge part of the game that fleshed out the camp mechanics and gave depth to your actions in the game. I didn't recruit anyone else, so I'm presuming that it just isn't a mechanic in the game? You can go low honour, but does that do much? Apparently you get cheaper items in stores if you go high honour, and there's one mission that is gated behind high honour. Does low honour just make you act like a dick in cutscenes? In missions you'll get the choice of going first or getting someone like Charles to go first, but the mission plays out the same way. The one that bothers me the most is quicktime events in missions, especially when it just seems to resume the cutscene and doesn't give you any alternative. Like you can press the button and continue playing the game, or not press the button and sit there at the prompt for the rest of your life while the game waits for you to press the play button.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:16
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I found a cauldron of mystery liquid out in the woods. I drank it, passed out, and woke up 50 feet away seemingly no worse for wear. Is there something more to it or that it?
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Dec 10, 2018 19:24
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Upmarket Mango posted:I found a cauldron of mystery liquid out in the woods. I drank it, passed out, and woke up 50 feet away seemingly no worse for wear. Is there something more to it or that it? you'll find out in chapter 6 tuberculosis
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Dec 10, 2018 19:31
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Taking over a whole town from the rooftops with a couple buddies online is pretty chill.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:40
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rap music posted:you'll find out in chapter 6 tuberculosis I don't understand. I'm in the epilogue now and Arthur said he got it from beating that debtor to death.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:41
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Upmarket Mango posted:I don't understand. I'm in the epilogue now and Arthur said he got it from beating that debtor to death. It's a joke. The witch's cauldron is just a spooky easter egg.
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Dec 10, 2018 19:44
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Sulphagnist posted:It's a joke. The witch's cauldron is just a spooky easter egg. Oooooh 
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I'm confused at what chapter/epilogue I'm in. I thought I was still in chapter 5, but I just did The mission Red Dead Redemption and I went off with Sadie to rescue Abigail and killed that Pinkerton dude and then Arthur was coughing and sitting down and I got on my horse and a song was playing and it told me to hold down X to ride but I was playing for like 2 hours at this point and I had to leave and power down my PS4 and take it with me so I have no idea where it saved or where I will start up. It seemed like the missions just started one after the other and I could never stop to save because it was grayed out.
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Dec 10, 2018 20:21
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AxeManiac posted:I'm confused at what chapter/epilogue I'm in. I thought I was still in chapter 5, but I just did Yeah you're pretty much in Arthur's endgame
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AxeManiac posted:I'm confused at what chapter/epilogue I'm in. I thought I was still in chapter 5, but I just did chapter 5 ends when you and the boys leave your island vacation
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Dec 10, 2018 20:26
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AxeManiac posted:I'm confused at what chapter/epilogue I'm in. I thought I was still in chapter 5, but I just did You're at the end of chapter 6 and yeah once you're in the final mission chain it just keeps going until it ends.
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Dec 10, 2018 20:27
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 I never went fishing with that one legged guy - REGRETSalso if my save was before all that started I don't mind playing those missions again, they are great.
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Dec 10, 2018 20:39
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veni veni veni posted:I think I'm around the end of chapter 6 and every mission devolving into an overlong shootout is starting to get super draining. I get that to some extent it's a shooter but it's just the same structure over and over and over. I'd love to go a few hours without shooting hundreds of dudes. What even is this complaint? Shootin' dudes is the main draw of this dang game!
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Dec 10, 2018 21:53
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Upmarket Mango posted:I found a cauldron of mystery liquid out in the woods. I drank it, passed out, and woke up 50 feet away seemingly no worse for wear. Is there something more to it or that it? If you go to the tippy top north west corner of the map you'll find an old lady in a cabin with some pooches a witch?!?maybe...kinda
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Dec 10, 2018 21:58
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AndyElusive posted:What even is this complaint? Shootin' dudes is the main draw of this dang game! I do get the disconnect between wanting to empathize with Arthur and make him a good guy, but I think it just hammers home the fact that Arthur can be good, just his situation is always bad. I really, really don't want Arthur to have to be bad, I feel bad for him. It's pretty incredible and a drastic change from just me feeling bad about doing bad stuff. I completely care about Arthur's struggle and we are both kinda helpless to change it, we gotta keep filling graves. I played RDR1 so I know I can't, but holy hell, I want Arthur to murder the gently caress outta Dutch. There was one point where he was riding everyone into Saint Denis to rob the train and going on about loyalty and that if anyone wanted out they should leave, so I just rode my horse away and then everyone stopped and started yelling and me to get back and then Dutch said in a normal voice "Now as I was saying" and then went right back into his insane yelling loyalty rant
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Hey some kids in St Denis robbed me of a couple hundred. Is there a chance to get that back? Do I need to murder every kid I see in town?
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Dec 10, 2018 22:15
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AxeManiac posted:
If you can, I would heavily recommend you go fishing and hunting once with the veteran before the end game. He'll invite you to hunt again after the first hunt - go to him after the end game. I was recommended this by someone on the Internet and I do agree it feels like it was scripted to be played this particular way.
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Dec 10, 2018 22:21
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AxeManiac posted:I played RDR1 so I know I can't, but holy hell, I want Arthur to murder the gently caress outta Dutch. There was one point where he was riding everyone into Saint Denis to rob the train and going on about loyalty and that if anyone wanted out they should leave, so I just rode my horse away and then everyone stopped and started yelling and me to get back and then Dutch said in a normal voice "Now as I was saying" and then went right back into his insane yelling loyalty rant That's actually hilarious and goes along with how full of poo poo Dutch is. Epilogue finale: Arthur didn't get to do it, but man spamming RB at Micah's face in dead eye was cathartic as hell. Nothing left but mush for Agent Ross to poke through.
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AxeManiac posted:
When does he offer? Is this the guy in Rhodes? I've talked to him several times and he never invited me fishing.
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Hobo Clown posted:Epilogue finale: Arthur didn't get to do it, but man spamming RB at Micah's face in dead eye was cathartic as hell. Nothing left but mush for Agent Ross to poke through. Ya I mashed the trigger so hard at that exact moment that I think I need a new controller now.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:When does he offer? Is this the guy in Rhodes? I've talked to him several times and he never invited me fishing. His horse has to run off with his leg, stranding him next to a rock pretty close to where his house is first. Then you gotta get it back to him. Next time he'll take you fishin. edit: oh nm you're talking about a different stranger mission I guess. AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:When does he offer? Is this the guy in Rhodes? I've talked to him several times and he never invited me fishing. Someone else, not the beggar guy in Rhodes. Stranger mission up north, should appear on the map in Chapter 6.
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Dec 10, 2018 22:50
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Hobo Clown posted:Someone else, not the beggar guy in Rhodes. Stranger mission up north, should appear on the map in Chapter 6. Horse named "Buell." Big old dumb horse spooked real easy by a snake.
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Chapter 5 spoilers: I loved the loving island, the ocean crashing against the shore and everything else. There's no way I get to go back is there? If no, gently caress Rockstar having these amazing set pieces that are only used for roughly an hour of gameplay. I want a game just set in that area that isn't Assassin's Creed.
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AndyElusive posted:What even is this complaint? Shootin' dudes is the main draw of this dang game! It's partially that at this point in the game, I feel like a lot of what Arthur does in missions clashes really hard with where he is at mentally in the story, and also just on a gameplay level I'm kind of trying to wrap up the story because I've been playing the game for over a month now, and it always just shootout after shootout in the story missions and some variety would be nice. I've also found it frustrating how hard it is to avoid killing people, even when the game seems to present it as an option. Like, simple stuff like commandeering a stage coach for a mission. I'm not trying to be a total pacifist or anything, but I wish I felt like there were more options than lighting everyone up, in every situation.
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:Horse named "Buell." Big old dumb horse spooked real easy by a snake. Chapter 6 finale: I was cleaning up Stranger quests before getting to the end and so I got Buell right before the last mission. I'm sure Arthur's tearful "thank you" to his trusty dying horse is a sad moment but not when it's this new dumbass I haven't even bonded past level 2 yet.
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Before I waste a lot of time to fill this out, does anyone know if a current RDO price sheet exists? 
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:Before I waste a lot of time to fill this out, does anyone know if a current RDO price sheet exists? Yes, I can link you... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whWr6wnY_6xSrDw_W4Q02BnSGoic01ar_sfPAIOcifM/edit?usp=drive_web&ouid=113624094341149260424 It doesn't have everything but its a drat good start Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Dec 10, 2018 |
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Hobo Clown posted:Chapter 6 finale: I was cleaning up Stranger quests before getting to the end and so I got Buell right before the last mission. I'm sure Arthur's tearful "thank you" to his trusty dying horse is a sad moment but not when it's this new dumbass I haven't even bonded past level 2 yet. This part still pissed me off. My White Arabian survived far worse than one stray bullet from some Pinkerton rear end in a top hat. Why couldn't I just give the drat horse to John so he could escape on it? I was extra sad knowing that Buell and the first horse who saw me through the first couple chapters apparently overstayed their welcome in the stable and were turned into glue. In general it pisses me off when a developer makes something happen in a cutscene that's totally out of sync with gameplay. I had hand-crafted special horse revivers, for gently caress's sake. I'm going on vacation for a couple weeks so maybe I'll want to wrap up all the epilogue to-dos when I'm back. Right now it's 
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Diabetic posted:Chapter 5 spoilers: I hope you can, I didn't spend much time because I had nothing and a snake bit me and I needed a cure I didn't have and anytime I found anything cool the local police force would swarm on me and ruin it. I just wanna go exploring that area drat it.
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piratepilates posted:You can go low honour, but does that do much? Apparently you get cheaper items in stores if you go high honour, and there's one mission that is gated behind high honour. Does low honour just make you act like a dick in cutscenes? The only time I know of where honour actually affects your cutscenes is in the Chapter 6 mission "The Fine Art of Conversation". The ending cutscene changes depending on if you have high honour, low honour, or high honour and having done a certain stranger mission. As for actual gameplay effects, with low honour you loot more money and valuables off of dead bounty hunters and lawmen, and kill cams are more frequent and are in black and white instead of sepia toned. There are also supposed to be unique revolver grips locked behind high and low honour but they don't unlock properly, at least for my save. I got the low honour exclusive grip when I had maxed out high honour during the story, and I've never seen the high honour grip in my save file.
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AxeManiac posted:I hope you can, I didn't spend much time because I had nothing and a snake bit me and I needed a cure I didn't have and anytime I found anything cool the local police force would swarm on me and ruin it. I just wanna go exploring that area drat it. I don't think there is that much to the area tbh. it's much smaller than it looks. Although the game never really gives you a chance to fully explore the plantation.
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Ch5 I am possibly the only person who absolutely loathes Guarma (and Mexico on RDR1) because of the godawful voice direction/script translation for that section, so I was grateful to find out it took like an hour and half tops to clear, went through it in a rush just to get the gently caress out asap. It's really exasperating to see all the care given on portraying specific accents for everyone in general (hell, Javier's new VA can sing corridos decently enough! That was cool too!) and the dialogue quirks, and then they go to fake Cuba and the spanish script turns into a horribly directed mess, with stilted as hell accents, people reading insults as if they were reading names off the phone book, and translated lines with idioms out of loving Google Translate. The only good things Guarma has over Mexico is that it's way shorter and the place's prettier to look at
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I loved Guarma but was also happy that it was a short segment. Thought it was really cool to have a drastic change of scenery for a bit.
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Also while you're at filling compendiums, I stumbled upon this browser script for Rockstar Social Club's Compendium. It adds locations for every thing in the compendium, reveals all the stuff you haven't seen yet, and adds filters so you can focus on what you're missing if you're in the hunt for cheevos. I imagine the companion app has something similar, but these additions really make the compendium easier to browse. https://forum.psnprofiles.com/topic/67386-tool-v010-huskys-compendium-helper-automatic-tracking-for-zoologist-skin-deep-progress-and-more/
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Hobo Clown posted:I tried going white hat on the (Chapter 4?) bounty mission where the guy asks for a second to say goodbye to his family before you take him. I was waiting for an option to tell him he can go, but after he talks to them he just stands there yelling at you to tie him up. By the time I figured out nothing is gonna happen I pulled out the lasso but then him and his family all run away. No dialogue or anything so it didn't seem like this was supposed to happen, so I chased after and got him. I think that actually broke part of the quest because I read later that what he tells his son is to go get help and they set up a trap along your route, but none of that happened and the guy didn't speak to Arthur the entire ride to the jail. Yeah, that happens. First he tries to play up being a good fella before he manages to slip free from his ropes and hops off your horse, so you have to chase him down and tie him up again. If you let him have a moment with his family that's when his friends show up and you have to fight them off before taking him to jail. I was playing white hat too and that dried up any sympathy I might've had, haha.
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veni veni veni posted:I loved Guarma but was also happy that it was a short segment. Thought it was really cool to have a drastic change of scenery for a bit. I liked it and thought it was really gorgeous, but its also such a weird little segment. You shipwreck on not-Cuba, get taken prisoner by a plantation owner, murder all the guards on the island, murder what must be at least a hundred spanish soldiers, destroy a navy destroyer, and then make your way back to america like it was nothing at all, and then everyone back home just talks about it like you went on vacation to cabo for a weekend. As soon as its over you're just back to the main story drive, and this huge event is just forgotten about.
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piratepilates posted:I liked it and thought it was really gorgeous, but its also such a weird little segment. You shipwreck on not-Cuba, get taken prisoner by a plantation owner, murder all the guards on the island, murder what must be at least a hundred spanish soldiers, destroy a navy destroyer, and then make your way back to america like it was nothing at all, and then everyone back home just talks about it like you went on vacation to cabo for a weekend. As soon as its over you're just back to the main story drive, and this huge event is just forgotten about. Hercules and his gang of freedom fighting Haitian pirates own, and I was hoping to see way more of them Maybe we will see more of Guarma in online? Isn't Mexico's map already in the game and can be accessed by glitch or something? TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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piratepilates posted:I liked it and thought it was really gorgeous, but its also such a weird little segment. You shipwreck on not-Cuba, get taken prisoner by a plantation owner, murder all the guards on the island, murder what must be at least a hundred spanish soldiers, destroy a navy destroyer, and then make your way back to america like it was nothing at all, and then everyone back home just talks about it like you went on vacation to cabo for a weekend. As soon as its over you're just back to the main story drive, and this huge event is just forgotten about. While it feels a bit jarring and out of place, I figured it's there at least partly to drive home that Dutch's plan of living on some tropical island is crazy and would be rife with problems similar to what has happened on Guarma - lots of local struggle and bloodshed between workers and an American-aligned business interest that Dutch would inevitably get embroiled in.
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