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luxury handset posted:in the book they complain that they kept coming up with gi joe parodies and then on research discovering that their concepts were actual obscure joes and they had to try again Holy poo poo THAT's where the bear came from. NOW I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS
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Len posted:I don't know if it was ever good but my fiancee just restarted Glee. It’s probably aged really poorly even aside from the pedophile. Was there more than one? I started Riverdale recently and I don’t know what I think of the recent turn toward campy and bitchy promiscuous gay male characters done in some kind of post-irony ironic way, which I feel like kind of started with Glee. That trend probably won’t age well as the culture continues to move away from the classic Hollywood gay tropes.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It’s probably aged really poorly even aside from the pedophile. Was there more than one? There's the pedophile and the drug addict. I find it not as easy to mock the drug addict because of the general state of things. But oh man is it great to just randomly yell "FOUND HIM!" And the old Glee instructor was a self described "predatory gay" who i'm fairly certain was hinted at being a pedophile.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It’s probably aged really poorly even aside from the pedophile. Was there more than one? If you're talking about Kevin, I think he's just wearing that in a 'small town teenager needs something to define himself' way. There's other gay characters who are much less like that, and it's by the same team that's generally been pretty solid on gay characters in their DC shows. He does have a few things that dated him immediately, though, the writers... can't quite get a reasonable reference point on what a kid like him would be into in the present day.
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Cleretic posted:If you're talking about Kevin, I think he's just wearing that in a 'small town teenager needs something to define himself' way. There's other gay characters who are much less like that, and it's by the same team that's generally been pretty solid on gay characters in their DC shows. The pop culture references in Riverdale confuse the poo poo out of me. I feel like one of the first things they teach you in tv writing is to not date your shows with ultra-contemporary references with zero shelf life. And it’s like the show comes from an alternate universe where the internet is only a source of newspaper articles—on earth those teens would be talking about moth memes or whatever. I guess it feeds the unreality of the setting, but they should go whole hog and have the kids talking about old pop culture alongside current things, like being excited to see Elvis on tv and then listening to trap music later or something. I guess it’s just the same old cringe story of old men not understanding youth no matter how hard they study.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:The pop culture references in Riverdale confuse the poo poo out of me. I feel like one of the first things they teach you in tv writing is to not date your shows with ultra-contemporary references with zero shelf life. And it’s like the show comes from an alternate universe where the internet is only a source of newspaper articles—on earth those teens would be talking about moth memes or whatever. I guess it feeds the unreality of the setting, but they should go whole hog and have the kids talking about old pop culture alongside current things, like being excited to see Elvis on tv and then listening to trap music later or something. The new Sabrina does this well, IMO; characters have cell phones and laptops, but there are still a LOT of land lines in the show, I think every TV I saw was a CRT, and the cars are all from the 50s-70s. It helps to keep the mood of the show unsettling, because in the back of your mind you can never quite work out when the show takes place. Re: gay characters, yeah, the Berlanti crew are doing an excellent job with gay and bisexual characters in the Arrowverse. I think all four shows (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow) have at least one character who's in a solid, long-term same-sex relationship (I don't remember if Captain Singh has shown up on Flash recently), and both the A-plot and one of the recurring B-plots on Legends this season revolve around same-sex relationships.
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Cleretic posted:He does have a few things that dated him immediately, though, the writers... can't quite get a reasonable reference point on what a kid like him would be into in the present day.
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Gotham kind of had that going on too. The ambiguous time period aesthetic is kind of a cool effect
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TV episodes that did not age well: wait, what year is it
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Besesoth posted:The new Sabrina does this well, IMO; characters have cell phones and laptops, but there are still a LOT of land lines in the show, I think every TV I saw was a CRT, and the cars are all from the 50s-70s. It helps to keep the mood of the show unsettling, because in the back of your mind you can never quite work out when the show takes place. You are really not giving Black Lightning the credit it deserves imo https://twitter.com/NafessaWilliams/status/1067175292962316290?s=19
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Koalas Massacre posted:You are really not giving Black Lightning the credit it deserves imo I haven't started watching it! :o Is it streaming anywhere? e: o poo poo, it's on Netflix now. I know what I'm watching next!
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christmas boots posted:Gotham kind of had that going on too. The ambiguous time period aesthetic is kind of a cool effect A lot of modern Batman adaptations have a timeless look to them, the old Burton and especially the animated series had a very 30's look to them with art deco buildings and Chicago typewriters but interspersed with modern tech like the bat computer or the batjet
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Tiggum posted:Well, Riverdale kind of takes place in an alternate reality where it's the modern day but also sort of 1950 and every year in between. See also Archer. It helps that it's strongly implied long-lived witches tend to be slow to adapt to new technology and the setting is a pretty old-fashioned town, but then the mine seems to be literally out of the 50s or even earlier rather than the industrialised operation you'd expect to see today. (of course, that probably also helps the budget) Still funny that the whole 'black electric guy' stereotype of comic book superheroes is literally 90% because of analogues and rights-skirting counterparts to Black Lightning.
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Don Gato posted:A lot of modern Batman adaptations have a timeless look to them, the old Burton and especially the animated series had a very 30's look to them with art deco buildings and Chicago typewriters but interspersed with modern tech like the bat computer or the batjet I've heard that using tommy guns also let them skirt network restrictions on the depictions of firearms in (nominally) children's shows, where most shows just used lasers.
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Don Gato posted:A lot of modern Batman adaptations have a timeless look to them, the old Burton and especially the animated series had a very 30's look to them with art deco buildings and Chicago typewriters but interspersed with modern tech like the bat computer or the batjet Yeah, I’d forgotten about those. It’s a look that really makes sense for the kind of city Gotham is so I’m not surprised that it’s become a standard take.
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Black Lightning is good because he is 100% dad all the time. Even when he's superheroing around he's just a super dad.
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Did someone mention how Archer is some weird mix of Cold War with 21st Century? Anachronism is fun!
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Did someone mention how Archer is some weird mix of Cold War with 21st Century? Anachronism is fun! That's a selling point tho?
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MariusLecter posted:That's a selling point tho? Yeah, I wasn't being ironic, I like it. 
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I remember someone once angrily asking Archer what year it was and his response being 'haha yeah, good question'. Love me a floating timeline. It makes It Follows spookier too.
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Thanks everyone, I think I'll start Venture Bros from the most recent episode and work backwards until my monocle falls out 
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By jove, I think he's got it!
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I think my favourite aspect of Gotham's aesthetic was that everything was within a few decades of each other, from 1940 cars to 1990 flip phones, but all of Oswald Cobblepot's clothes were out of date even compared to everything else which helped sell the "Mommy's boy who never fits in" idea, as his suits were all like 1890s stuff, due to being hand-me-downs from his grandfather.
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Push El Burrito posted:God yes Brick Frog was always a favorite. One of their best names. He's a guy who dresses like a frog who throws bricks at people. But: 
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His only skills are brick throwing and frog being!
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Megillah Gorilla posted:One of their best names. the book has a major revelation here - the fact that a brick has a bit called a frog is not the genesis of the name turns out one of the creators, can't remember which one, had a homemade frog head mask as a kid his mom made. he and his cousins were just playing one day in costumes and the cousin put on the frog head and yelled something about being a brick frog. there's a childhood pic of the frog head so, one of the more obscure puns they came up with is sadly just a coincidence
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https://www.amazon.com/Go-Team-Venture-Making-Bros/dp/1506704875/ Since no one has actually just linked the book itseof yet.
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CommonShore posted:Holy poo poo THAT's where the bear came from. I hope they never explain Knife Bear (the wiki says his official name is Scare Bear?) What more do you need to know? He's a guy in a bear costume with a knife... superpower. And he occasionally saves people from dying of a massive concussion in the snow.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I've heard that using tommy guns also let them skirt network restrictions on the depictions of firearms in (nominally) children's shows, where most shows just used lasers. I'd be facinated to hear how the rules on that work.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Did someone mention how Archer is some weird mix of Cold War with 21st Century? Anachronism is fun! Here's how it didn't age well: The team behind Archer actually had a lot of merch ready to go and suddenly realized that shipping a bunch of t-shirts that says ISIS might not be the best idea.
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it's actually the best idea 
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Truga posted:it's actually the best idea Yeah, they just need to add an international shipping option.
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Truga posted:it's actually the best idea ISIS probably had their own merch.
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I've been upset for a while that the news people ruined a perfectly good Egypt/cat name when they could have found a different acronym.
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Beachcomber posted:I've been upset for a while that the news people ruined a perfectly good Egypt/cat name when they could have found a different acronym. They didn't even have to look very far, ISIL would have been fine (and possibly more accurate)
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christmas boots posted:They didn't even have to look very far, ISIL would have been fine (and possibly more accurate) Right?!
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Doesn't have the same scary sound though. 
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Beachcomber posted:I've been upset for a while that the news people ruined a perfectly good Egypt/cat name when they could have found a different acronym. Yeah, it definitely hurts the possibility of this character showing up in the upcoming Shazam/Black Adam films. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FdBRLV6PGro Something tells me "O Mighty Isis!" is not gonna fly well with focus groups. 
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Yeah, it definitely hurts the possibility of this character showing up in the upcoming Shazam/Black Adam films. i will be so peeved if i start to see a terrorist organization called tawky tawny
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Tiggum posted:Well, Riverdale kind of takes place in an alternate reality where it's the modern day but also sort of 1950 and every year in between. In the comics Archie drove a Model T well into the 90s.
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