I still really like the Transformers movies

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Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

New Bumblebee trailer. There is an extremely G1 looking Shockwave, Optimus and other designs. Is this a stealth reboot?

Thing is, the G1 designs look weirdly out of place, like they've stepped right out of those games from a few years back.

Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Sep 24, 2018

# ? Sep 24, 2018 10:56

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# ? May 5, 2024 17:23

The MSJ: May 17, 2010

Another trailer with a slightly different cut and Blitzwing talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXyl7TR2ZM0

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

New Bumblebee trailer. There is an extremely G1 looking Shockwave, Optimus and other designs. Is this a stealth reboot?

Thing is, the G1 designs look weirdly out of place, like they've stepped right out of those games from a few years back.

The CGI in the Cybertron scenes also look worse than the rest of the movie. Makes me think it was a late addition or just the lower budget showing.

# ? Sep 24, 2018 15:41

Gwaihir: Dec 8, 2009; Hair Elf

The MSJ posted:

Another trailer with a slightly different cut and Blitzwing talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXyl7TR2ZM0

The CGI in the Cybertron scenes also look worse than the rest of the movie. Makes me think it was a late addition or just the lower budget showing.

Effects shots for trailers specifically are also frequently/typically rushed/not final/whipped up last second vs the finished stuff that goes in the real movie.

# ? Sep 24, 2018 16:35

Attack on Princess: Dec 15, 2008; _{To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!}

All that effort into making them look like G1, and they don't get a guy with a shrill voice to do Starscream. That's going to bother me because everything else looks top notch.

The Cybertron shots are video gamey like Milkfred said, but it's unavoidable with this aesthetic.

# ? Sep 24, 2018 16:43

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Donnerberg posted:

All that effort into making them look like G1, and they don't get a guy with a shrill voice to do Starscream. That's going to bother me because everything else looks top notch.

The Cybertron shots are video gamey like another post said, but it's unavoidable with this aesthetic. It'll probably be better with the Earth scenes when everything isn't CGI.

That's not Starscream. In a fanbase-enraging move, they confirmed it is Blitzwing.

# ? Sep 24, 2018 16:44

Attack on Princess: Dec 15, 2008; _{To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!}

Huh, what a weird choice.

Just a purple palette swap to Blitzwing and his appearance would be in line with everything else they've shown. Either the suits really love that red, or the switcheroo must be a part of the story. Actually, it's most likely they combined Blitzwing and Starscream into one character for the movie to not gently caress with Bay continuity, because Starscream(Blitzwing) is next to his cartoon bros in that scene with Shockwave. All three become the Cybertron flyers from the start of the G1 show. It all makes sense if the character is an amalgamate.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Sep 24, 2018

# ? Sep 24, 2018 16:53

Mat Cauthon: Jan 2, 2006; The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.

Excelsiortothemax posted:

Starscream looks great and they got classic Bee going so I�m cool with a PTSD robot hiding away from the horrors of WW2.

I thought the main Decepticon flyer in this movie was Thundercracker (or some other guy), not Starscream?

The most recent trailer looks great. Going back to the G1 aesthetic for the Cybertronian bits at least really sets this movie apart. I wonder if there's any overlap between the folks doing the CGI on this and the crew that did the work on the most recent Transformers games.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 02:16

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Cybertron even looks different. Is this really sticking with the Bay continuity?

edit: A quick glance around the net seems to make it seem like this is a reboot of some sort, but disguised.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 03:31

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

Cybertron even looks different. Is this really sticking with the Bay continuity?

The only major holdover is Bumblebee's face.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 03:31

The MSJ: May 17, 2010

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

Cybertron even looks different. Is this really sticking with the Bay continuity?

Cybertron looks different every time they show it in the Bay movies.

Rap Record Hoarder posted:

I thought the main Decepticon flyer in this movie was Thundercracker (or some other guy), not Starscream?

The most recent trailer looks great. Going back to the G1 aesthetic for the Cybertronian bits at least really sets this movie apart. I wonder if there's any overlap between the folks doing the CGI on this and the crew that did the work on the most recent Transformers games.

As mentioned, the plane guy beating 'Bee up is named Blitzwing.

I think most of the people who made those games for Activision is now part of the teams making Call of Duty and Destiny games.

Rhyno posted:

The only major holdover is Bumblebee's face.

And that's because it's now considered an iconic part of the character.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 03:33

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

The MSJ posted:

And that's because it's now considered an iconic part of the character.

Eh, his look in the TFP cartoon was less stupid and they did away with it at the end. He also ran through 4 seasons of another cartoon with a normal looking face.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 03:36

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

The MSJ posted:

Cybertron looks different every time they show it in the Bay movies.

Sure, but beyond the version depicted through Optimus' memories in the first film, there are similarities, like the weird hexagonal shapes and so on. The glimpse we see of Cybertron from space is basically right out of G1.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 03:37

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

Rhyno posted:

The only major holdover is Bumblebee's face.

And Bumblebee's radio voice.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 05:51

Slutitution: Jun 26, 2018; by Nyc_Tattoo

Milkfred E. Moore posted:

Is this really sticking with the Bay continuity?

We'll only know if there's an impossibly close-up shot of Hailee Steinfeld modeling her thong. Stay tuned.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 20:34

Auron: Jan 10, 2002; <img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

I take it as more of a soft reboot like the latest X-men films. Same continuity but maybe the third movie (and fourth, and fifth) can be casually and hilariously erased.

# ? Sep 25, 2018 21:22

Roadie: Jun 30, 2013

Time travel in all franchises, forever

# ? Oct 11, 2018 03:04

The MSJ: May 17, 2010

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but Bumblebee is using some throwback G1 designs for the Cybertron scenes while Hasbro is about to release a new G1 prequel toyline showing Transformers on Cybertron before they came to Earth.

# ? Oct 11, 2018 04:41

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

It's not a coincidence. Pretty sure around the time of Last Knight's release Hasbro said they had plans to do a full CGI prequel movie about the events on Cybertron. I'm guessing that got scuttled and they've repurposed some of it into Bumblebee and other projects.

# ? Oct 11, 2018 04:53

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

So, Bumblebee comes out in a week. It snuck up on me, too. The first critical reviews are coming out and they seem to be quite positive, much more than any other Transformers film. Initial reports do paint it as a soft reboot but it doesn't seem like it'll be truly consistent with any of the other films, especially with some of the spoilers floating around.

# ? Dec 13, 2018 10:31

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

None of the films are truly consistent with any of the other films.

# ? Dec 13, 2018 11:48

General Battuta: Feb 7, 2011; This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

I don't trust any Transformers that lacks Bay's mean-spirited nihilism and hatred of the franchise.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 01:31

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

General Battuta posted:

I don't trust any Transformers that lacks Bay's mean-spirited nihilism and hatred of the franchise.

People are saying this movie has... heart? And is respectful to the franchise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2avXbTFsXBc

# ? Dec 14, 2018 01:55

banned from Starbucks: Jul 18, 2004

the franchise is a glorified toy commercial why does it deserve respect?

# ? Dec 14, 2018 05:48

K. Waste: Feb 27, 2014; MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

banned from Starbucks posted:

the franchise is a glorified toy commercial why does it deserve respect?

Fandom is a mental disorder.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 06:04

General Battuta: Feb 7, 2011; This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

I don't think anyone in this thread has said it does.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 06:57

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

K. Waste posted:

Fandom is a mental disorder.

This but for all fandoms.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 08:22

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

banned from Starbucks posted:

the franchise is a glorified toy commercial why does it deserve respect?

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/To_sell_toys

# ? Dec 14, 2018 10:39

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Arquinsiel posted:

None of the films are truly consistent with any of the other films.

They're downright contradictory, in fact

# ? Dec 14, 2018 11:16

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

That doesn't make them bad flicks. AoE is metal as all hell.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 11:54

Schwarzwald: Jul 27, 2004; Don't Blink

banned from Starbucks posted:

the franchise is a glorified toy commercial why does it deserve respect?

That kind thinking is two decades out of date.

Now-a-days, the movie and the toy are just glorified commercials for the franchise.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 15:44

Hemingway To Go!: Nov 10, 2008; im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

There's movies that are toy commercials and movies that are just toy commercials
And these days those are your only choices.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 18:29

Blood Boils: Dec 27, 2006; Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Rhyno posted:

This but for all fandoms.

That's what he's saying

# ? Dec 14, 2018 19:16

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Blood Boils posted:

That's what he's saying

I thought he was directing it at TF in general.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 20:10

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

It's more of a brand than a franchise

Often literally, I see a lot of people with Decepticon tattoos

# ? Dec 14, 2018 20:52

Basebf555: Feb 29, 2008; The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!; Fun Shoe

precision posted:

It's more of a brand than a franchise

Often literally, I see a lot of people with Decepticon tattoos

It's one of those things that has come to "represent" the 80's in a way, like if I saw someone with a Decepticon tattoo I wouldn't assume they were an expert on Transformers I'd just think they were probably an 80s kid.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 20:59

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

I had a customer with both symbols tattooed on his arms.

He also had a huge iron cross that he claimed was for he man but it looked a little too Hitlery to be Motu.

# ? Dec 14, 2018 21:26