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Well that's a hell of a thing.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:33
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Also I'm voting ##vote Infinitium I really don't see where this push on Tobbs is coming from? Like their posts seem reasonable based on what info we have and what has happened? I'm also side eyeing birdstrike, like don't want to omgus, but continually trying to shift the vote onto me instead of IP in light of the flip does not look great.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:40
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A Sometimes Food posted:Well that's a hell of a thing. Why shouldn't we kill you today? I ask you out of love and friendship naturally.
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Dec 14, 2018 07:41
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A Sometimes Food posted:Also I'm voting oh I seee
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Dec 14, 2018 07:41
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asf who;s you’re scumbuds?
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Dec 14, 2018 11:17
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A Sometimes Food posted:I really don't see where this push on Tobbs is coming from? I've made several mentions of posts from Tobbs I disliked. The fact that he's in a masonry is superfluous, and any mentions of "I suggested we shoot IP" can also be perceived as building towncred. I would also put forth in a masonry that large, that at least 1 person is non-town
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Dec 14, 2018 11:24
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Infinitum posted:I've made several mentions of posts from Tobbs I disliked. Masonry switches, IP was in it D1. You're a bit obstinate, and you've definitely pushed me before when you were scum, but it doesn't seem like your heart is in it. I suggest voting for a scumbo like birdstrike. ##vote Birdstrike for a better D3.
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Dec 14, 2018 12:46
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Infinitum posted:I've made several mentions of posts from Tobbs I disliked. Looking back I see it, but not sure I agree. Sal did the same thing mostly without even casing anyone which reads much worse to me so singling out Tobbs for it still strikes me as kinda suss.
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Dec 14, 2018 12:58
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Masonry switches, IP was in it D1. yeah not using that name thanks
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Dec 14, 2018 13:03
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Basically Pod, Birb and I have been the 3 most active people and thefact that IP flipped scum does not bode well imho for ASF.
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Dec 14, 2018 13:04
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SalTheBard posted:Basically Pod, Birb and I have been the 3 most active people and thefact that IP flipped scum does not bode well imho for ASF. .... how? I mean I admit my vote there on it's own looks bad, but I feel IP's flip makes me look better, seems unlikely two scum would expose themselves like that when they could just wait for another town vote to go up.
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Dec 14, 2018 13:22
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##vote 28766f69642a2930 post="490708946"] yeah not using that name thanks Np bro
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Dec 14, 2018 13:26
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:##vote 28766f69642a2930 
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Dec 14, 2018 13:28
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SalTheBard posted:Basically Pod, Birb and I have been the 3 most active people and thefact that IP flipped scum does not bode well imho for ASF. You mean it doesn't bode well for hawke? As Pod and I pointed out, he's been protecting IP by trying to shift all the focus onto ASF. Why would this look bad on ASF? Why do you trust hawke so blindly anyway? It's rather fishy.
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Dec 14, 2018 14:29
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Yami Fenrir posted:You mean it doesn't bode well for hawke? The main reason I originally didn't want to cuddle IP is just for heart control. ASF and IP were both super scummy to me. That was the reason I wanted to cuddle ASF and vig IP was because then we would know who has heart and could protect them. As of now we don't know where the heart is and how does that help town?
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Dec 14, 2018 15:46
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SalTheBard posted:The main reason I originally didn't want to cuddle IP is just for heart control. ASF and IP were both super scummy to me. If town doesn't know where the heart is, neither does scum. In fact, it's BETTER for the heart's location not to be revealed. Yes, I am aware this is setup spec, but there is like, literally no way this setup has a protective role that can protect the heart carrier multiple nights in a row in a 4 day game. So having the Heart be revealed is massively dangerous to town. In fact, I'm sonewhat suspicious about even having to state this.
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Dec 14, 2018 15:59
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Yami Fenrir posted:Yes, I am aware this is setup spec, but there is like, literally no way this setup has a protective role that can protect the heart carrier multiple nights in a row in a 4 day game. Hmmm that's a good point. You gave me a lot to think about.
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Dec 14, 2018 16:16
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But to be fair a role that is a day vig, reset, suicider, janitor isn't typical either.
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Dec 14, 2018 16:18
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If (once) Hawke flips scum the next set of people to untangle is Sal and Infinitum, between those two there's probably a scum. If Hawke flips town, then ASF probably merits a luncheon.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:46
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Something that is really bothering me is this: In Mega Man, the revive had a chance to bring back the player as scum. I'm worried that my be the case here. Your flips were Janitored and there was no reason to do that unless some of you changed to scum (or are some sort of 3rd party faction) So I don't really trust any of you and I think the pushes against Birb and I are really sketchy at best.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:59
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That sounds like an easy excuse, Sal. The fact that people have been revived doesn't change anything about the behavior of the people that have been alive all this time.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:02
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Instead of going "Is the person that has been revived scum now?" you should be asking "Who has always been scum?" For the people that have been revived with their alignment hidden, it's essentially a new day 1. I am starting to get really suspicious of you here, Sal.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:03
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SalTheBard posted:Something that is really bothering me is this: I'm not sure how you can read the case and not see that it's the most convincing evidence on the table right now. It isn't a coincidence that Hawke throws in his lot defending IP and pushing ASF. If you think it's just bad luck on his part, that's extremely forgiving. We know that he was defending scum off of some gut reads. When pressed by Pod he didn't provide very good answers. That makes it seem, more than anyone else in this game, that Hawke is scummy. Town is supposed to be unsure and full of distrust, so why was past Hawke so sure about ASF's scumminess and IP not needing to be lunched? IP was probably the only scum hand in the pot end of day. And Scum were trying to save him.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:05
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So I'll just come out with it and let the chips fall were they may. I'm a 3P who wins if the heart is destroyed. As the heart was destroyed by Pod I've won but was given the option to stay in the game. **There might be a new heart but I'm not sure** So if you cuddle me nbd because I won already and have nothing to play for. My kill takes a night to setup so I was trying to keep IP alive so that I could finish them off Night 2. That was why I speculated that Birb might have a similar role. So yeah if you guys turbo me or otherwise vote me out it is a waste of a day for you.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:09
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SalTheBard posted:So I'll just come out with it and let the chips fall were they may. its hardly a wasted day, your wincon is the opposite of ours and you literally can kill town and want to kill the heart? You're what they call scum.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:11
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Toalpaz posted:its hardly a wasted day, your wincon is the opposite of ours and you literally can kill town and want to kill the heart? If I was scum why would I confess? I can't kill anyone tonight because IP was vaporized. My wincon is opposite of scum too since I'm assuming they have a similar "control the heart" wincon town does.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:13
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why didn't you take your win and go Sal?
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Dec 14, 2018 18:14
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SalTheBard posted:So I'll just come out with it and let the chips fall were they may.  I'm sorry but I'm not buying that. If you've won already there's literally no reason for you to remain in the game, and really if you're telling the truth Solus should be slapped. Either way, I still think birb should eat the lunch today. Now that we know Sal 100% isn't town we can always lynch them tomorrow. Lunching birb will clear up the ASF situation quite a lot, I think.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:14
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Sal may very well be trying to protect birb for a night here. Let's not be hasty and lynch him at our own pace, imo.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:15
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Toalpaz posted:why didn't you take your win and go Sal? Because I was having a good time on this game
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Yami Fenrir posted:Sal may very well be trying to protect birb for a night here. Let's not be hasty and lynch him at our own pace, imo. thats the only thing I can imagine being true, birb must have like a scary one shot night power.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:17
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Toalpaz posted:I'm not sure how you can read the case and not see that it's the most convincing evidence on the table right now. like this sal business is just a distraction from this. Sal was under no pressure to claim, and only claimed once I said we should kill birb, and then kill sal or infinitum and solve the game. Sal is scum and birb is scum, but this is stratigic play to change town's order of actions and we should stay our course and not be tricked by third party/scum actions.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:19
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Toalpaz posted:like this sal business is just a distraction from this. 
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Birb is a 3p at best. I would be pretty shocked if he flipped scum, but if he is how you want to go Inn flexible. If I my ability I'm assuming the target would know for the setup. If I use it (which I won't) then you guys can turbo me. If nobody classrooms them you know I'm acting in good faith.
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SalTheBard posted:Birb is a 3p at best. I would be pretty shocked if he flipped scum, but if he is how you want to go I'm flexible. If I use my ability I'm assuming the target would know for the setup. If I use it (which I won't) then you guys can turbo me. If nobody claims then you know I'm acting in good faith. Mafia edit
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O_O I mean I was comfortably suspicious of Sal already, I knew they were posting weird. ##vote Sal I'm happy to move to Numbers or back to Infinitum but I figure someone should have a vote here.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:56
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A Sometimes Food posted:O_O Yeah it's interesting how quiet the thread was (scum chatting in scum chat) and then you come and lead the charge to drop a vote here. I'm voting for Scumtimes Food. I don't think the "joke" vote on D1 was a joke and I think it was a coordinated effort. I have nothing to gain from full claiming, but I did because I wanted town to look for actual scum. I'm voting with majority, and I think if the majority lets ASF live they are stupid. ASF is my #1 scum read and this post just smells of opportunism. ##vote ASF
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SalTheBard posted:Yeah it's interesting how quiet the thread was (scum chatting in scum chat) and then you come and lead the charge to drop a vote here. Or I have a weird timezone. And it's not opportunism to punish a gambit like this. If you were telling the truth why should we trust you. You have no reason to side with town over scum. If you're telling the truth then at best you're just gonna stir the pot with insincere votes with no motivation to help town win.
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A Sometimes Food posted:Or I have a weird timezone. I'm 3p. I don't care who wins but as I have no way of communicating with scum I might as well roll with town
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