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Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Nothus posted:

I'll give Musk this: he's managed to convince lots of wealthy rubes to accept a level of quality and customer service that would have destroyed a traditional car company. I know a dude who's tesla arrived 9 months late, had poo poo falling off of it immediately, and if he ever damages it lol good luck finding a body shop that can work on it.

does he love the car though?

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Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Agronox posted:

does he love the car though?

Absolutely. For a dude who is cold hard reason about everything else, it's a fantastic lesson in human nature.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
With everything wrong with it, I guess Tesla's marketing team at least knows what they're doing.

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

mandatory lesbian posted:

With everything wrong with it, I guess Tesla's marketing team at least knows what they're doing.

whatever they paid the waitbutwhy guy was an amazing investment. it alone generated thousands of cultists for musk.

and if somehow waitbutwhy guy did it for free he was a giant rube

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

mandatory lesbian posted:

With everything wrong with it, I guess Tesla's marketing team at least knows what they're doing.

They really have the iCar image down.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Katt posted:

Teslas are like those lizards that drop their tails when they feel threatened but wheels instead.

carmeleons?

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Nothus posted:

I'll give Musk this: he's managed to convince lots of wealthy rubes to accept a level of quality and customer service that would have destroyed a traditional car company. I know a dude who's tesla arrived 9 months late, had poo poo falling off of it immediately, and if he ever damages it lol good luck finding a body shop that can work on it.

rich people are incredibly gullible, and this is basically pocket change for them so they don't really care whether their status symbols actually work. luxury cars have awful quality and customer service too, though nowhere near tesla levels of bad

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

gschmidl posted:

carmeleons?

axleotls

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

FAUXTON posted:

axleotls

swhomp lizards ok fine that's Runescape

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Admiral Ray posted:

oh my god

what

there's no goddamn way he ignored this. . . okay just typing that out of course he did.

additionally, LADOT was extremely skeptical of the whole idea when I spoke to them a while ago.

also: https://twitter.com/seletajewel/status/1075432309795414018

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Yeah, at the very least there should have been a geotechnical report (signed and stamped) followed by the structural design (signed and stamped). A project of this nature probably also needed environmental (CA regulations may be different if the project was 100% privately funded), storm/drainage and possibly ROW impacts though deep tunnels get to bypass a lot of that poo poo. And that’s just for the tunnel itself, anything involving the actual rail system or whatever the gently caress they use is its own beast.

I’m licensed in Ohio and looked at getting reciprocity in CA but I didn’t have any of the seismic poo poo needed.

To be fair, the license just means you own the design so if/when it fucks up you’re the one that gets sued.

you can read the Hawthorne permit here: http://hawthorne-ca.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=541&meta_id=35798

drgitlin has issued a correction as of 22:29 on Dec 22, 2018

1982 Subaru Brat
Feb 2, 2007

by Athanatos

mandatory lesbian posted:

With everything wrong with it, I guess Tesla's marketing team at least knows what they're doing.

The most disturbing thing about the Musk cult to me is that his stupid proclamations, idiot micromanagement and tiresome gimmicks probably actually do drive up demand for the cars. It's easy to argue Elon Musk should not be in charge of Tesla, but I don't know what to do about thousands of bazingas who vehemently insist that the Homermobile is better than one that doesn't fall apart. It's not even that they prefer the tradeoff of fun over reliability, because nothing about Fart Mode or Mario Kart Mode logically requires the rear bumper to fall off in the rain.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

mandatory lesbian posted:

With everything wrong with it, I guess Tesla's marketing team at least knows what they're doing.

their message is that buying a Tesla is helping to save the world from climate change

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

Powershift posted:

Train wheels are tapered, and the axle moves to the outside of the track making the outside wheel run on a larger diameter part of the wheel and the inside wheel :eng101:



https://youtu.be/xA4aaSzqT9s

Around the 8 minute mark.

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Lord Stimperor posted:

You mean like this? (viewed as frontal section)

code:
_____                 ______
         \________/
e: this thread is interesting af

Im watching this on the awful app so the code is a bit weirded out but from what I can see yes.
It's basically just taking the taper from the wheels onto the track and due to gravitational centering the car will ride in the middle.

Whompy wheels guaranteed though.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Combat Theory posted:

Im watching this on the awful app so the code is a bit weirded out but from what I can see yes.
It's basically just taking the taper from the wheels onto the track and due to gravitational centering the car will ride in the middle.

Whompy wheels guaranteed though.

I should draw this on a yellow legal pad and post it to elon's twitter

maybe we'd all get to see some whomp

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

I mean one just has to imagine the insanity of this roller steering rack abomination.

Say there's a brick of loose congrete that fell next to the wall and your roller goes over it, or a coke can from a tunnel worker, or anything the car in front of you lost... you either break your steering rack at the impact, which means you die in a horrible tunnel fire, or the roller and rack survive, but steer you into the opposite wall, which means you die in a tunnel fire.

This is like a motorized Futurama suicide booth. Or the closest thing :elongate: made so far...

LegoMan
Mar 17, 2002

ting ting ting

College Slice

Engineering solutions like this fascinate me. One of my favorite YouTube videos is engineer guy talking about how a simple coffee maker works.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Combat Theory posted:

I mean one just has to imagine the insanity of this roller steering rack abomination.

Say there's a brick of loose congrete that fell next to the wall and your roller goes over it, or a coke can from a tunnel worker, or anything the car in front of you lost... you either break your steering rack at the impact, which means you die in a horrible tunnel fire, or the roller and rack survive, but steer you into the opposite wall, which means you die in a tunnel fire.

This is like a motorized Futurama suicide booth. Or the closest thing :elongate: made so far...

Isn't it basically a lovely copy of the curb guided bus concept that has been in use for decades at this point?

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Maybe the real genius of Musk is being such a loving poo poo turd on Twitter we fall all over ourselves solving his engineering problems to demonstrate what a loving idiot he is. It's free work

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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I like to imagine a show where Musk and other SV "visionaries" build a rocket to escape a dying Earth and the whacky exploits they have as it slowly never dawns on them how terrible their ideas are. Like Gilligan's Island except everyone is Gilligan.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Tesla is basically what happens when you let a guy who took 8 years to get through college but thinks he's a genius run a company.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

SardonicTyrant posted:

I like to imagine a show where Musk and other SV "visionaries" build a rocket to escape a dying Earth and the whacky exploits they have as it slowly never dawns on them how terrible their ideas are. Like Gilligan's Island except everyone is Gilligan.

Like atlas shrugged except everyone in galts gulch dies of cholera because they're all lucille bluth

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Lucille would be drinking such strong alcohol she'd avoid cholera

Also I presume Musk talked with the Japanese as to how to make those tunnels earthquake-proof

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Goodpancakes posted:

Maybe the real genius of Musk is being such a loving poo poo turd on Twitter we fall all over ourselves solving his engineering problems to demonstrate what a loving idiot he is. It's free work
nah, his cult of personality is effective at recruiting good engineers already, then he sticks his idiot finger in everything and commands them to do moronic things like non-mechanical door latches

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
"Imagine CatDog, but instead with the animals butts. Musk has melded the train and the car to create the transportation equivalent of butt-butt."

lmao

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
So the plan is to load individual cars on individual trains to travel 2 miles?

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Muscle Wizard posted:

i really really want to know what that dude thinks goes on in japanese subways.

ive seen some animated films about this

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


Elephanthead posted:

So the plan is to load individual cars on individual trains to travel 2 miles?

I dont think anyone really knows what the gently caress the plan is.

Its seriously a different concept every time someone asks what it is hes doing.

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

Elephanthead posted:

So the plan is to load individual cars on individual trains to travel 2 miles?

No, you load the cars into a tunnel and they drive themselves. How this is any different than a single lane one way road is unclear to me.

The other brilliant thing is that muskyboy plans to just keep adding more tunnels (lanes) if usage is too high...he said you could easily have 40 of em...which means you need to merge and unmerge those 40 tunnels lmbo

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

LegoMan posted:

Engineering solutions like this fascinate me. One of my favorite YouTube videos is engineer guy talking about how a simple coffee maker works.

i just thought about what wouold happen if someone asked musk to design a coffee maker

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Sir Tonk posted:

ive seen some animated films about this

Isn't there a big problem with women being g groped on Japanese subways? Like, so bad that there are women-only train cars to help combat the problem?

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Elephanthead posted:

So the plan is to load individual cars on individual trains to travel 2 miles?

there's a bunch of different plans, and he's constantly changing details around, because he's just trying to promise everyone everything and doesn't have any real intention to put any of it into practice

Muscle Wizard
Jul 28, 2011

by sebmojo

Day Man posted:

Isn't there a big problem with women being g groped on Japanese subways? Like, so bad that there are women-only train cars to help combat the problem?

it's not as huge a problem as the media would have you think. but because so many people in japan rely on public transport, they're frequently packed nuts to butts in carriages. this leaves women unable to really do anything if some weirdo decides to get gropey other than create a big scene which the culture in japan strongly disapproves of (views are improving on stuff like this though). as a result, you can see why many women would feel safer in female-only carriages, which in many cases are only available during peak times bc of the aforementioned overcrowding problem.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Teal posted:

If you can afford a good insurance that'll cover riots it's probably a good way out of a regretful purchase because the market value of your used tesla is already probably like a third of what you bought it at.

lmao my coworker bought a used model s

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Day Man posted:

Isn't there a big problem with women being g groped on Japanese subways? Like, so bad that there are women-only train cars to help combat the problem?

according to a former coworker it’s socially acceptable to rape someone on a train

she was an idiot who had never been, because if you go you’ll see uh that’s not true

but as the other guy said, they’re lips to assholes in there and of course there are perverts (see: Japan) and they are really not about expressing indignation or creating commotion so the victims are not vocal about it

but it’s not a loving rape free-for-all

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

according to a former coworker it’s socially acceptable to rape someone on a train

she was an idiot who had never been, because if you go you’ll see uh that’s not true

but as the other guy said, they’re lips to assholes in there and of course there are perverts (see: Japan) and they are really not about expressing indignation or creating commotion so the victims are not vocal about it

but it’s not a loving rape free-for-all

I’m guessing your former coworker watches too much Japanese porn

the onion wizard
Apr 14, 2004

Raldikuk posted:

No, you load the cars into a tunnel and they drive themselves. How this is any different than a single lane one way road is unclear to me.

The other brilliant thing is that muskyboy plans to just keep adding more tunnels (lanes) if usage is too high...he said you could easily have 40 of em...which means you need to merge and unmerge those 40 tunnels lmbo

I'd been thinking about the switching/merging on the tunnels issue too, even small railway yards are insanely complicated. And that's before even thinking about the routing & coordination required.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Raldikuk posted:

No, you load the cars into a tunnel and they drive themselves. How this is any different than a single lane one way road is unclear to me.

The other brilliant thing is that muskyboy plans to just keep adding more tunnels (lanes) if usage is too high...he said you could easily have 40 of em...which means you need to merge and unmerge those 40 tunnels lmbo

So, basically there’s going to be a huge void under LA and the only thing holding everything up is a network of concrete tubes made by SpaceX interns.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

the onion wizard posted:

I'd been thinking about the switching/merging on the tunnels issue too, even small railway yards are insanely complicated. And that's before even thinking about the routing & coordination required.

Machine learning will solve it...

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no pubes yet sorry
Sep 11, 2003

Mush should have just made pneumatic tubes a la bank cylinder transport pods a reality. The tragedy/comedy would be a lot higher than people inevitably getting trapped in a tube with no oxygen.

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