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Random Stranger posted:The ending is not an encoding error. They cut Arino off mid-sentence in the broadcast. wow everybody just copying the sopranos now
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univbee posted:Merry Christmas! Great video, thanks! After seeing this series, I honestly don't know why it's hailed as the "best zelda" or even a "good zelda." I've played it before and the controls are laggy, the hitboxes are shoddy and unfair... if it didn't have Zelda in the title, everyone would just call it a badgame.
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone call Zelda 2 the best one
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I wish they did because it was my first one and I adore it, but years of Internet shade have made it about as unloved as Castlevania 2 for being a "black sheep" that dared to be different. I think more people appreciate it now than they did 15 years or so ago, though. Which is good!
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I don't know about best game...but Zelda 2 has the best dungeon theme in the series.
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Literally never heard someone say it is the best. Not even top 3.
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The White Dragon posted:Great video, thanks! Uh, no. I think you got that backwards. Most people called it a bad game until recently, when they would have called it a good game back in the day if it wasn't a Zelda game. It probably would've been a classic if not for the fact that it was a Zelda game but played nothing like the original. I've never even played it so I don't have a dog in this race 
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Zelda II was absolutely not considered a bad game when it was new, nor was it criticized for being "different". It wasn't until the mid 90s, when the SNES and GB games were out and had kinda established what "a proper Zelda game should be like" that people that started with one of the later games went back to play the early ones and complained about how different Zelda 2 was. You get the exact opposite with the Wonder Boy franchise. Wonder Boy 2 played absolutely nothing like Wonder Boy 1 either, but since most of the later games kept the gameplay from the second game, that series has people singling out the FIRST game for being "different". And in both cases, nobody actually thought like this until several years and further sequels later.
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Adamant posted:Zelda II was absolutely not considered a bad game when it was new, nor was it criticized for being "different". It wasn't until the mid 90s, when the SNES and GB games were out and had kinda established what "a proper Zelda game should be like" that people that started with one of the later games went back to play the early ones and complained about how different Zelda 2 was. Um, no. I can vouch for the fact that myself and many of my middle school friends who played the game when it came out in the US definitely criticized it for being different, and I seriously doubt that we were alone.
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^^^^^ it was the same for my friends and I. Zelda 2 is interesting because it doesn't show the level of care that went into the design. Not that the first Zelda was a paragon of originality, but it was definitely taking all the elements that existed in the top down action/rpg genre and giving them a good polish. Whereas LoZ is an improvement in various ways on games that came before it like Hydlide, Druaga, or Dragon Slayer it also simplifies things from games like Xanadu, and even games that released concurrent or after LoZ, like Adventure of Valkyrie or the first Ys game, it definitely feels like it pushes things forward in terms of making sure all the parts form a complete package. Zelda 2 similarly didn't do anything that other games weren't already doing on the market, but in contrast to it's predecessor it doesn't present the same push towards making it one of the best of its type. Rygar, Simon's Quest and Maze of Galious for instance are all at least as good of if not better of a game in the genre that released within a few months of each other, with Faxanadu trailing closely behind. And a year before any of these we had Metroid and Romancia-- which admittedly sort of misses out in the action portion of things since it was still using the "run into enemies to hurt them" thing, but I still felt was closer than Legacy of the Wizard or Sorcerian. Zelda 2 even feels unfinished given the improvements that came with the American release. This isn't a bad thing, after all Dragon Quest to Dragon Warrior also received improvements that pushed the series forward, but with Zelda 2 it wasn't nearly enough.
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People are way, way too kind to Rygar NES.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:People are way, way too kind to Rygar NES. Yeah, as much as some laud it for not just being a direct arcade port, it was clunky, obtuse and just plain lovely. And I felt that way playing it in 1988.
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Rygar definitely has its issues. The leveling/magic systems are very obtuse, getting to attach to the ropes to cross chasms in both the top-down and sidescrolling sections can be frustrating and most of the challenge in the game can be passed by simple grinding of appropriate mobs. It's also comparatively short to something like Adventure of Link and there's no save function. But I don't think it's significantly worse with these aspects than AoL or Simon's Quest are with their individual issues. I think people being "kind" to Rygar nowadays is a function of people in general only realizing that it was a decent game that maybe had been passed on for a long time. I was the kid that left an NES on in order to beat it, though. So my memories of it are definitely on the positive side.
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Nipponophile posted:Um, no. I can vouch for the fact that myself and many of my middle school friends who played the game when it came out in the US definitely criticized it for being different, and I seriously doubt that we were alone. And I can vouch for the fact that I and many of my friends who played the game when it came out in Europe thought it was a great game and a perfectly fine sequel, and I seriously doubt that we were alone either. Anecdotes will always be anecdotes. I also have tons of video game magazines from that era, and Zelda 2 was one of the top rated NES games in the reader popularity polls for years. The game was very popular. Adamant fucked around with this message at 07:50 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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You know, Europe. Where the NES was super popular.
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Mister Chief posted:You know, Europe. Where the NES was super popular. Yes. You know, Europe, that continent that consists of more countries than the UK, despite Brits' seeming inability to realize that. No, but seriously, the NES not being popular in Europe is not true. It was distributed very poorly in the UK and sold badly there, but that was one country. The NES did well in Europe as a whole, and the modern idea that it didn't is just a result of Brits spreading misinformation by saying "Europe" when they mean the UK.
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Adamant posted:Zelda II was absolutely not considered a bad game when it was new, nor was it criticized for being "different". It wasn't until the mid 90s, when the SNES and GB games were out and had kinda established what "a proper Zelda game should be like" that people that started with one of the later games went back to play the early ones and complained about how different Zelda 2 was. This lines up with my childhood experiences. I had no expectations of what a Zelda game would be at that time, so something different was just something different. “Dang this is hard” was the big opinion shared around the playground; no one was giving a critical read on where it placed in the developing action rpg subgenre. After Link To The Past that’s what I wanted more of, but when part two came out I was way into it.
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If we're tossing anecdotal evidence out, I was loving devastated when I asked for Zelda for Christmas and got Zelda II instead. It didn't play anything like Zelda I, and even when I was a kid I thought it was bullshit when games suddenly did something different for a direct sequel.
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Thanks for the finale of Zelda 2! If you want to see the unaired ending, watch the beginning of episode 211 Taito Chase.
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Here's a look at the latest DVD boxset. https://imgur.com/a/xFDHIqC Not GCCX related, but on New Years, a six and a half (!) hour Desert Life Special with Yoiko will be on TV, with Arino officiating a desert life wedding ceremony between Hamaguchi and his wife, Akina Minami. edit - It made Yahoo news, Arino is super happy about it. https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20181227-00000319-oric-ent There wil be an eight hour version on Youtube as well. Kakaricho fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Dec 27, 2018 |
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Nipponophile posted:Um, no. I can vouch for the fact that myself and many of my middle school friends who played the game when it came out in the US definitely criticized it for being different, and I seriously doubt that we were alone. I have a really fond childhood memory of my brother trying and failing to beat Zelda 2. His master plan was to get to the grand palace at the end of the night Thursday with max lives, leave the nintendo on, go to bed, to go school Friday and come home to tackle the grand palace unfettered. Imagine his surprise when the NES got stuck in a reboot loop when he got home. He was pissed~ EDIT: I was genuinely impressed that Arino managed to beat Dark Link in two tries. Was the AI easier in the JP FDS version or something?
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Tatsujin posted:Was the AI easier in the JP FDS version or something? Yes. He's relatively easy to just beat through pure attrition in the original, the western release ramped up his AI so much it feels like it's a bug. (though if he HAD been playing the western version, you know the ADs would just told him about the "duck in the corner" exploit)
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Mister Chief posted:You know, Europe. Where the NES was super popular. It tanked in the UK, the NES being popular in other parts of Europe is one of the reasons why Mr Gimmick only got released in Japan and Scandinavian regions of all things. it seems inexplicable now because the historical context has been gradually lost to time, but there was a reason for that. I also assume it did fairly well in France based on basically nothing besides experiences with the French retro community. I wonder about places like Germany or Spain but I don't have anything to go off. it varies but it did alright in western europe bar UK
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The C64 was super popular in Germany, so maybe that negatively affected sales of the NES? I'm not sure and I can't find any data on units sold or anything. From my own experience, it seemed that almost everybody had a C64 (except me) and few people had an NES, but this was when both systems were pretty old already.
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Is the revenge episode the essential part 3 of the other two Zelda 2 episodes? I haven't watched them yet because I wanted to see the whole thing at once.
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erikotaku posted:Is the revenge episode the essential part 3 of the other two Zelda 2 episodes? I haven't watched them yet because I wanted to see the whole thing at once. Yes. Though it's not really an "episode", it's the last 15 minutes of that year's new year special, the bit that's broadcast live.
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Adamant posted:Yes. Though it's not really an "episode", it's the last 15 minutes of that year's new year special, the bit that's broadcast live. You could also say that the start of Taito Chase episode his part 3.5 of Zelda 2.
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Is there an alternative to nyaa.si or a reliable proxy? The Man blocked access to it (and a bunch of other sites) about a week ago here and it makes getting new episodes a bit more of a pain in the arse.
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Famibomb posted:Is there an alternative to nyaa.si or a reliable proxy? The Man blocked access to it (and a bunch of other sites) about a week ago here and it makes getting new episodes a bit more of a pain in the arse. With bit of Google-Fu, I found these (no idea about reliability): https://nyaa1.unblocked.si/view/1104878 https://nyaasi.sitescrack.site/view/1104878 Also if you google for "episode name number infohash", you might get the infohash for the episode from google, which allows you to turn it into a magnet link: For example, the infohash for the latest Zelda revenge is "1b36b176797bd9c0bc626cb761718fbfa297cd7c", so the magnet link is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1b36b176797bd9c0bc626cb761718fbfa297cd7c I think it could be a good idea if we added magnet links to the sa-gccx.com website as well.
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makere posted:With bit of Google-Fu, I found these (no idea about reliability): Thanks mate, the few proxies I checked out were either not listing current stuff or were just straight up redirects to 'You Just Won A Free iPad!!!' and internet dickpills. Direct magnet links would be lovely.
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Gah! 2019 snuck up on me, I should have posted this sooner. Enjoy a rockin' entry to cap off 2018! Episode 240 - Um Jammer Lammy Translated by zari-gani Timed by Random Stranger Proofread by hirayuki https://nyaa.si/view/1106599 magnet:?xt=urn:btih:db11f1af2658b9fd0ea7a81383182479d1be6598 https://mega.nz/#!DZ9U2KoY!znYTIulqd8NfMAM6Ck6CGn51CdrdmceSwBjEGBZcWrU univbee fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Dec 31, 2018 |
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SA-GCCX is the best!
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MEGA is up.
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BLESSED! Thank you!
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Thank you for the new release! Arino's outfit at the end made him look, uh, DIRTY.
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Thank you! 明けましたおめでとうございます
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Oh wow, I hadn't checked the thread in a bit so I get to see part 3 of Zelda II and Um Jammer Lammy for New Year's Eve.  Thank you for everything you do, SA-GCCX team
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Happy New Year to everyone! The Messe special was great, can't wait for the uncut DVD release. The big news - On April 29th, there will be an "History of Arino's Challenge" orchestra at Tokyo Opera City by the Japan Game Music Orchestra (JAGMO) Don't drink too much, you might end up like this guy. 
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univbee posted:Gah! 2019 snuck up on me, I should have posted this sooner. Enjoy a rockin' entry to cap off 2018! Gonna be honest, I keep forgetting that you're one of the people on the translation team because I'm so used to seeing new episode posts next to your old "Let's enjoy sparkling beer indefinitely" avatar. Regardless, thanks for the new episode; here's hoping it's just as good as the Parappa episode if not better.
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Thanks for countless years of entertainment SA-GCCX team. Hopefully, we can have a great 2019 too! 
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