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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah they seem to have partly fixed PotD difficulty by removing the ability to break encounters apart by pulling mobs and breaking spawns. (Sometimes you can use this to fire off a LOT of disengagement attacks as mobs try to run across the screen to "join the fight," which is hilarious). Yeah that still works and there's a lot of quests tuned to level 10 so once you hit that you're basically always over leveled for quests if you do everything which makes it easier. Does up scaling even work? I know it breaks the journal because it thinks you're just scaling even if you've got 'only upscale' ticked, but encounters are definitely if I come back to them a level later.
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Captainicus posted:I tried POTD today with a new character, an eothas priest / ranger. Hired two adventurers at Port Maje, but tried a half a dozen times at the groceri street ambush and the digsite and couldn't beat them Gorreci street is one of the hardest fights on Potd. Seriously, it is. It's brutal early. I usually hire a merc when I get to Port Maje. I was able to beat that fight on my current run, but it required pulling them north west up near the house and then huddling there and using all the aoe heals/buffs/consumables that I could. I wasn't able to split the pull, but it's more manageable if you huddle tight and use everything you've got. If you try to just walk into the ambush, you'll get slaughtered. Potd is a manageable but it requires using what you have at your disposal. You can't be lazy. At least, not early on. Eventually you get so much gear and talents that you can walk most encounters apart from the odd tough DLC fight, and that's with level scaling.
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This was without intentionally trying to gimmick the encounters by only pulling half the enemies, if that is a thing you can still do? Either way, I think I might just hop down a step to veteran.
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Beast of Winter is pretty great. The two top contenders for "World's Dumbest Cult" sitting right next to each other is great. Going to find a cultist's sister and ending the quest with "Well, I'm convinced! Let's get you into that construct! is great.
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Hawgh posted:Beast of Winter is pretty great. You're going to love The Forgotten Sanctum.
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I'm getting a bit bored of SSS and want to move on to the Forgotten Sanctum. Will I be missing any incredible gear if I don't finish SSS?
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AfricanBootyShine posted:I'm getting a bit bored of SSS and want to move on to the Forgotten Sanctum. Will I be missing any incredible gear if I don't finish SSS? Each of the Faces give you a special item for becoming their champion, but yeah. SSS is far and away the weakest DLC.
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Sinner Sandwich posted:You're going to love The Forgotten Sanctum. I think it’s the best thing in the game.
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Do they let you join the circle if you play a wizard, by the way?
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^ You can have a discussion about it actually. Finished Forgotten Sanctum - that's the best dungeon in either PoE1/2. It's long, but the pacing is excellent; a few trash fights, spaced out with big (hard) setpiece boss battles, and lots of puzzle solving. Tayn and Llengrath are fun, plus there's a rest point and a store right at the entrance. I ended up intimidating Wael into dealing with Eothas for me, I can't wait to see this new trainwreck ending.
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Avalerion posted:Do they let you join the circle if you play a wizard, by the way? The funny poolchat in Arkemyr's mansion leads me to believe that no, you never get to be an archmage. Even if you end up out-magicking each and every Archmage in combat or whatever game they decide to drop you in.
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Regarding being an archmage: Llengrath basically goes "yeah, maybe, after the game is over"
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Sinner Sandwich posted:Each of the Faces give you a special item for becoming their champion, but yeah. SSS is far and away the weakest DLC. What does each Face give? Also, a question: Which of the DLC “lock you in” until you finish, if any? Or can you freely leave and come back for all?
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You can freely come and go from any DLC, with the exception of one area at the end of each that you have to clear to proceed. Special items from the faces: A soulbound rapier from the Seeker, a soulbound battle axe from the Slayer, and a soulbound helmet from the Survivor
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The soulbound rapier for ciphers is kind of hilarious too.
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Did we get a bad update? I keep getting blocked terrain where there shouldn't be. First in the Kraken's Eye where I couldn't walk across the room and now on the beach, a circle of invisible impassible terrain around half of my party. Has anyone seen this before? I'm not running any mods.
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I can’t seem to select Tekehus watery double to give it orders anymore. Not sure if that was a change post release or a bug.
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So I've booted the game up for the first time in a while, and I've got the DLCs from buying a season pass way back. Spoiler-free, which characters/sidekicks should I bring for each of them for maximum banter? I've heard Ydwin gets some stuff in BoW and Konstanten in SSS, and I'm guessing Fassina will have a say in the archmage one, but are there others that get fleshed out? Also, what level should I attempt them at? I tried to pop into BoW a bit early to recruit Vatnir, and it turns out that that is not a good idea.
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There's a portion of BoW where it's nice to bring Xoti and Eder, and another section where bringing Tekehu might be interesting (I'm not sure about the latter, as I didn't bring him).
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Jan 3, 2019 23:46
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The quest log itself now has an icon that shows you which companions you should bring.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeah they seem to have partly fixed PotD difficulty by removing the ability to break encounters apart by pulling mobs and breaking spawns. (Sometimes you can use this to fire off a LOT of disengagement attacks as mobs try to run across the screen to "join the fight," which is hilarious). I did it like you, except I hired an extra mercenary in Port Maje. I'm now level 8, barely touched Neketaka, did a few quests here and there and did some bounties. I'm not just yet at the steamrolling phase but getting close. My only other Deadfire run was at release, also on PotD and to be honest I don't really feel any major difficulty difference, except that yeah, you can't split packs anymore. I do have an objectively better party this time around though so that might be a factor. What I need to do better now is to find the good Affliction synergies between the classes, automate everything through the AI and watch magic happen.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Also, what level should I attempt them at? I tried to pop into BoW a bit early to recruit Vatnir, and it turns out that that is not a good idea. I feel like it's around: BoW - 16 SSS - 17 FS - 18 Maybe lower for not-PotD.
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Alright, I want to give this another crack. I got about halfway through about 4 or 5 times but then lose interest. Is it possible to do a stealthy monk? Sneaky tanky dude who kinda pops up from behind, lays in 20 punches before the other guy turns around and fights back? Any suggestions for that sort of build?
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Ravenfood posted:The soulbound rapier for ciphers is kind of hilarious too. I’ve only tested that out in the console, but it’s pretty weird. The on-crit DoT looks like it could get really high, but it scales on your current focus, not the focus you had when you applied the hit. That means that in spite of seeming to be designed for a soul blade, it’s actually pretty bad for them since they tend to stay around 0 focus. It looks like it might be best for some kind of melee ascendant, which is an awkward build. I’ve been meaning to test an assassin/ascendant that uses the per encounter power from stealth on the rapier to build up focus really fast, try to poison a bunch of dudes, then spam spells at them while the venom melts their souls. I’d be curious to hear how the rapier has worked for other people, though. H13 posted:Alright, I want to give this another crack. I got about halfway through about 4 or 5 times but then lose interest. Any class can take the stealth skill, but it’s combat utility is mostly limited to setting up positioning and getting out your opening round of attacks more quickly (you recover faster after your first attack out of stealth). Only the assassin subclass gets a major bonus for attacking from stealth, though all rogues can get a boost if they pick the backstab passive. So you could make a shadowdancer (monk/rogue). I feel like assassin works better for casters, since it makes it much easier to land your biggest, most impactful spells when you need them. For a monk, I’d go like helwalker/trickster. You’ll have powerful defensive and control powers from trickster and massive damage from both classes. Toxic strike boosted by monk stat boosts is expensive, but will easily deal more than 500 damage to a single target. There’s a small shield for monks that scales with unarmed that, combined with trickster powers, will give you solid defenses in spite of helwalker’s typical fragility. This isn’t a stealth build, exactly, though you can use backstab to hit extra hard at the start of the fight. Rather, it’s an agile, mobile striker with high damage and good staying power, either through being really hard to hit, or through using fear effects that prevent enemies from fighting back. Another good choice would just be a strict, single class monk. There’s no special synergy with stealth, but you have average durability for a front liner, and once you hit high levels, phenomenal damage output. The top-tier monk skill “whispers of the wind”, basically does what you’re asking for, even if it’s not directly related to stealth. You turn invisible and fly around the battlefield punching enemies really fast before reappearing. It has lots of weird, abusive side uses, like using it with twin shotguns to apply huge numbers of weak, low damage hits, then saying “you are already dead” and triggering resonant touch.
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Any class can get a minor version of Monk fisticuffs, and priest of Woedica gets wolverine claws. That might have better cohesion with rogue than Monk.
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I don't know if it still works but there used to be the raddest monk/ranger combo with frostseeker, lightning strikes, driving flight, and high accuracy. Your crits would just perpetually bounce around the fight, creating more crits. Pure monk is a great choice if you want to be engaged but not have to fiddle.
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Does anybody know what the cool down numbers actually mean in the AI? I'm trying to set up my ascendant to pop time parasite and secret horrors right after maxing focus and then just spam damage spells. Not sure what the intervals mean though, I keep getting recasts of those two spells mid-fight.
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Nasgate posted:Any class can get a minor version of Monk fisticuffs, and priest of Woedica gets wolverine claws. That might have better cohesion with rogue than Monk. That’s a good point, and Woedican assassin is probably both very strong and very fun. Not too tanky, though. My opinion is that trickster pairs well with helwalker, since you get a lot of damage and defense from trickster, while the monk stat boosts really help your control and DoT on the trickster side. I don’t think assassin/monk has all that much going for it, though. wiegieman posted:I don't know if it still works but there used to be the raddest monk/ranger combo with frostseeker, lightning strikes, driving flight, and high accuracy. Your crits would just perpetually bounce around the fight, creating more crits. Swift flurry no longer works with ranged weapons, so that combo no longer exists. High level monks can still get recursive crits, though no longer to the point where they just vaporize entire encounters instantly. Once you have heartbeat drumming and swift flurry, you can still hit 4-5 times in a row if your accuracy vs. deflection is really good. I think your description of pure monk is really on the nose. It’s similar to the first game, where monk really hits a sweet spot in terms of micro required.
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Furism posted:I did it like you, except I hired an extra mercenary in Port Maje. I'm now level 8, barely touched Neketaka, did a few quests here and there and did some bounties. I'm not just yet at the steamrolling phase but getting close. My only other Deadfire run was at release, also on PotD and to be honest I don't really feel any major difficulty difference, except that yeah, you can't split packs anymore. I do have an objectively better party this time around though so that might be a factor. How much the split pulling change affects PotD depends on the party you're running. I started out with a group with a lot of single target dps but mediocre support and AOE. This worked really well in my first go-round with the buffed PotD, but back then I was able to split/leash pulls and chip packs apart piecemeal. Now that kind of group just gets straight up overrun and for some places, like the Hanging Sepulcher, I've been forced to break out Herald Pallegina. Defenses are too high to just gib my way through entire packs fast enough to survive without significant support. I may end up swapping Eder out for Pallegina as a permanent thing, even though I dislike Heralds.They're just too mindless. Stand there behind max defenses and let the passives roll. Yawn. But I need the sustain and Heralds have that in spades. Heithinn Grasida posted:That's a good point, and Woedican assassin is probably both very strong and very fun. Not too tanky, though. If you want tanky, go Steel Garrote/Streetfighter instead. Paladin-level tankiness and Persistent Distraction will activate the Steel Garrote "heal when you damage an afflicted target" class feature on everything you engage.
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Pallegina was the companion I liked the least in Pillars 1, so I didn’t use her in my first Pillars 2 run. I am now playing it again with the DLC and wanted to bring her along, in hindsight getting her in my party and then immediately finishing the Bardatto/Valera storyline was a mistake since she immediately left the party after the fight. I suddenly remember why I didn’t like her.
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Oasx posted:Pallegina was the companion I liked the least in Pillars 1, so I didn’t use her in my first Pillars 2 run. I am now playing it again with the DLC and wanted to bring her along, in hindsight getting her in my party and then immediately finishing the Bardatto/Valera storyline was a mistake since she immediately left the party after the fight. I suddenly remember why I didn’t like her. Why not just resolve the storyline the diplomatic way?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Why not just resolve the storyline the diplomatic way? You loose out on most of the loot this way. What you need to do is try to solve it diplomatically but fail, that way Pallegina won't leave.
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Avalerion posted:You loose out on most of the loot this way. Oh well. Not like there’s a shortage of loot in the game.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Why not just resolve the storyline the diplomatic way? It's possible to lose the ability to do this at all if you do some stuff in the wrong order, which is real stupid. I left that chain unresolved because I couldn't get the leaders to meet because I talked to the wrong one first.
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andrew smash posted:It's possible to lose the ability to do this at all if you do some stuff in the wrong order, which is real stupid. I left that chain unresolved because I couldn't get the leaders to meet because I talked to the wrong one first. You can get them to meet regardless of the order you talk to them in, I've done both iirc, it's just about what you commit to doing for them.
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Anyone know of good Pillars 1 or 2 LPs/streams outside of AngriestPat's?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Why not just resolve the storyline the diplomatic way? That wouldn’t really fit the character I am playing. I could just have reloaded the game and removed her from the party, I just find it funny that she left my party after a single mission, one in which I was actually innocent and just defended myself.
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Oasx posted:That wouldn’t really fit the character I am playing. I could just have reloaded the game and removed her from the party, I just find it funny that she left my party after a single mission, one in which I was actually innocent and just defended myself. Innocent or guilty don’t really matter to Pallegina. She’s not a moralist, she’s a nationalist. If you are a liability to the Republics she’s gonna drop you like a bad habit.
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Is there a good "middle-of-the-road" level of deflection that will mainly result in grazes/hits without generating tons of misses? I'm building a Fire Godlike Berserker/Darcozzi Paladini with the aim of stacking heavy armor and Barbarian armor talents, then wading into melee to have my fireshield/racial ability/whatever other retaliation I dig up supplement my (as fire-based as possible) melee damage. Ideally i want to get hit a bunch to trigger the retaliations, but not so much I drop in an instant.
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