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chitoryu12 posted:Flynn? Principled? You jest, but... quote:Aug. 7, 2014 — The US has a problem with assuming the best of authority until proven the worst.
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mlmp08 posted:Again, we could've done far, far worse than Mattis. But what if supposed principled people like Kelly, Mattis, and Flynn had not taken jobs, but had instead actively refused to work with Trump and talked poo poo pre-election instead of working with him or staying quiet until accepting political appointments from him after the fact? You'll rarely see retired military actively talking poo poo, because you're technically still bound by the UCMJ for things like "talking poo poo about elected officials." Nobody cares about idiots on facebook, but when you're a retired 4 star it can cause problems. But to answer your question, I think we'd have had a bodycount on the border, for starters. I think we'd have done something really stupid in Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan and schwacked a bunch of civilians gunship-vs-hospital style. I think things on the defense front would be considerably worse than "pretty quiet, nothing significant going on." Edit: That description of Flynn jives with how Shim remembers him from back in the day. It's pretty clear the dude hosed up in retirement. I'm curious if he just made a really dumb bad decision and ended up digging the hole deeper trying to hide it or if he was actively trying to be a piece of poo poo. The end result is the same, but it's an oddity. All I remember from when Kelly was appointed was hope that he wouldn't be poo poo. I know I was completely unfamiliar with him. mlmp08 posted:You jest, but... This is completely accurate. Godholio fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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Dec 26, 2018 05:19
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Godholio posted:You'll rarely see retired military actively talking poo poo, because you're technically still bound by the UCMJ for things like "talking poo poo about elected officials." Nobody cares about idiots on facebook, but when you're a retired 4 star it can cause problems. Uh... were you conscious in 2016? Or now? Flynn was chanting that Clinton be locked up in 2016. Mattis stayed largely quiet but it was public knowledge that he was on Trump’s short list for SECDEF. Roughly a shitload of retired generals and lesser officers publicly talked mad poo poo about Obama while he was still in the oval office.
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mlmp08 posted:Uh... were you conscious in 2016? Or now? Flynn was chanting that Clinton be locked up in 2016. Mattis stayed largely quiet but it was public knowledge that he was on Trump’s short list for SECDEF. Roughly a shitload of retired generals and lesser officers publicly talked mad poo poo about Obama while he was still in the oval office. I said it was rare, not that it never happened. There weren't that many...Fox had a few retired talking heads that went after specific policies and trends which is not the same thing. But there were a couple, and there was public discussion over whether that's technically allowed or not (no, but someone has to go through the effort of pursuing it to make anything happen).
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Dec 26, 2018 05:33
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Someone tell all the former commissioned officer congress members they arent allowed to talk poo poo about the president. Cause they’ve never done that before or presently....
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Dec 26, 2018 05:39
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I guess we'll get to find out soon enough by comparison because it's almost certain Trump is going to pick some shithead to be SecDef and we can compare what happens under them to what happened under Mattis.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:42
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I think we've already got our answer: “We are not the Department of No.”
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Dec 26, 2018 08:12
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We do have a sense of some of what would have happened with a yes-man instead of Mattis...quote:He helped nip in the bud Trump's threat to give North Korea a military "bloody nose." The "bloody nose" would perhaps have been a nuclear attack, btw.
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Dec 26, 2018 17:30
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glynnenstein posted:We do have a sense of some of what would have happened with a yes-man instead of Mattis... AFAIK wasn't there some sort of revelation about Trump being sat down with Mattis and having it explained why he can't use nuclear weapons in a "limited" manner? Or why NATO exists. I seem to remember this, Fire and Fury reports maybe?
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Dec 26, 2018 18:07
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Fool me once, etc, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFYu_5XGrU
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Dec 27, 2018 09:48
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If those are actually Saudi soldiers I think they really need to go redo AIT
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Dec 27, 2018 14:01
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Burt posted:Fool me once, etc, etc. 
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Dec 27, 2018 22:06
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Ah, Sgt. Laurel and Sgt. Hardy’s trucks met.
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Dec 27, 2018 22:46
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What am I looking at here? Are they driving around in a minefield or are they just bumbling into a series of remotely triggered IEDs?
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Dec 27, 2018 23:28
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my kinda ape posted:What am I looking at here? Are they driving around in a minefield or are they just bumbling into a series of remotely triggered IEDs? The Houthis hired that demolitions guy from Uncommon Valor.
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Dec 28, 2018 00:11
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I can't find it now, but there was a report in the NY Times earlier today that the Saudi ground forces are largely made up of African mercenaries, and that a significant chunk of those mercenaries are child soldiers. So those dudes bumbling around between ambushes probably had little to no actual training. Great stuff there.
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Dec 30, 2018 03:28
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An African child mercenary can’t run that much. Where’s all our military aid money going?
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Dec 30, 2018 04:42
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https://twitter.com/yosoymichael/status/1079199961093496832
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Dec 30, 2018 16:31
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ANTIFA Super Solider: Confirmed.
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Dec 30, 2018 16:35
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Handsome Ralph posted:ANTIFA Super Solider: Confirmed. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE.
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Dec 30, 2018 17:44
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Next metal gear game is looking good.
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Dec 31, 2018 00:10
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Dec 31, 2018 01:30
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A goon in the OSHA thread messed with the 'Battle of Palmdale' Wikipedia page about a runaway drone getting shot down by two interceptors in 1956, and it got a chuckle out of me. Changed back already, obviously: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale 
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Dec 31, 2018 10:30
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Obviously it was edited because Oxnard afb is not a unit. Duh.
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Dec 31, 2018 10:58
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“Pyrrhic drone victory”
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Dec 31, 2018 16:24
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A true master of gun-kata.
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Jan 5, 2019 03:01
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Wonder if those posters are still available from SOF magazine
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Jan 5, 2019 03:52
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I found a 1995 issue of SOF in a used book store and was blown away that there was an ad section in the back of the magazine where you could order legit steroids. It was like boys life but with cool poo poo instead of lame boy scouts merch
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I found a few on internet archive just now and it's really amazing to see how far the overton window has shifted when this was printable in the Gribble Fringe's flagship publication before Reagan happened. 
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Jan 5, 2019 05:38
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Dude you have a missed call, they left a voicemail it might be important.
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Jan 5, 2019 11:36
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Also everything else happened and there's a notification for all of it.
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Jan 5, 2019 13:17
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Oh good lord your notifications are triggering my anxiety.
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god drat it i was just coming to post that
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Jan 5, 2019 18:53
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do people like that not get shamed into hiding their stupid meme stuff?
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Hot Karl Marx posted:do people like that not get shamed into hiding their stupid meme stuff? 
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