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I'm not sure I found guides and magazines especially helpful even before I had internet, but man they are still fun to read. Like little timestamps of how the game was experienced at that time. I have one MGS1 guide I found that is basically a proto LP, complete with commentary for each screencap they took. The 90s were wild in publishing
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Their Bloodborne Guides were so well put together, especially considering how twisty/turny the level design is and how open ended the progression is throughout the game. They have a really handy section that lists all of the npc interactions and what points in the game they progress or become inaccessible if you haven't advanced them. It's also nice that they have detailed breakdowns of boss weaknesses even though I just threaded caned every boss to death along the way.
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Future press also did a guide for the frozen wilds and the old hunters. You rarely see guides for expansion pack stuff so it was well appreciated. I wonder what they'll work on next.
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Jan 9, 2019 17:30
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SettingSun posted:I'm surprised paper strategy guides in any form survived into the Youtube/Twitch era. No one will spend money on a book when within 2 hours of the game releasing someone uploads the entire game on Youtube for you to see and reference. Speaking as someone who wrote those guides: they were mostly popular with a more casual, less constantly-online segment of the populace, and that segment is bigger than a lot of core audience members realize. What ended up killing guides wasn't so much the Internet as it was games as a service. When a game is effectively never complete, there isn't a hell of a lot of a point in putting out a book that governs it. It's also becoming an increasing challenge in other areas, such as criticism.
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You're bang on. A guy I know too dumb to do anything beyond porn online always has physical guides, to this day
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Wanderer posted:Speaking as someone who wrote those guides: they were mostly popular with a more casual, less constantly-online segment of the populace, and that segment is bigger than a lot of core audience members realize. I can believe this. I have a gorgeous hard bound Dark Souls guide that is half inaccurate by no fault of its own, the game just got patched. Still a great artbook though.
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This is why we need patches for physical guides. All you need to do is show proof of purchase, provide a mailing address, maybe a verification of age for age-restricted content, and then the publisher releases quarterly updates to the guides you own. Then you just have to take the updated pages and glue them over the outdated pages by following an easy-to-understand tear-out sheet that comes with the updated pages.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:This is why we need patches for physical guides. ...or you can do what we actually did at Prima, and update the e-book edition, which you get a code for when you buy the physical edition.
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Jan 10, 2019 02:47
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I'm literally staring at a copy of Tips & Tricks with Resident Evil 2 on the cover and really missing that kind of content.
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Jan 10, 2019 03:14
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I like having physical guides, personally. In open world games especially. They tend to have really detailed maps and other cool stuff in them. Having the guide out and chilling on my coffee table and break it open if I'm looking for something specific or just want to read the weapon/enemy breakdowns.
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Jan 10, 2019 03:51
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The best was, in addition to gamefaqs, Gamewinners as they had a bunch of tips in addition to just straight up codes and cheats. I added a bunch myself, then cheatcc copied them and then sued gamewinners saying they had it all first. I had to send in poo poo for the court case and everything.
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I'm actually starting to miss physical guides because looking poo poo up on the internet can be so tedious now. You got your choice of: typing it into YouTube and getting recommended "<THAT GAME YOU'RE PLAYING> Final Boss + Ending (4K)" videos, checking out poorly maintained fan wikis, hoping GameFAQs has it all figured out (or you're going to their message board and good luck pal), or aimlessly posting into the void for help. It's gotten to the point where if I YouTube a thing and get "Heeeey what's up you guys it's--" I just turn the video off. I've got this old rear end SMT3 Nocturne guide on my desk, it's thick as hell and so detailed. I miss guides like this.
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Jan 10, 2019 04:35
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Most often than not you type a game into youtube the first results will be ending spoilers... in the title of the video.
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I remember finding the guide to Chrono Cross real helpful. Silent Hill was probably the first time I used the internet to help me with a game.
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Policenaut posted:I've got this old rear end SMT3 Nocturne guide on my desk, it's thick as hell and so detailed. I miss guides like this. Man, editing that took forever.
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Drunken Baker posted:Better be an achievement for shooting his wee hat off.
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Jan 10, 2019 08:10
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I learned a few years back that if you just want a playthrough of a game all you need to do is type "x game playthrough (or walkthrough) no commentary" and that will narrow the field pretty nicely
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i remember phoning premium nintendo hotline up without telling parents because i didn't know what to do/find the hookshot in ocarina of time and i was stuck all weekend and after they told me what i needed to do i tried to segway into talking about wwf attitude (or no mercy, or whatever wrestling game it was at the time) and trying to get something unlocked for that but they refused to help me because it wasnt a nintendo game. it was a watershed moment.
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Open Marriage Night posted:I remember finding the guide to Chrono Cross real helpful. Silent Hill was probably the first time I used the internet to help me with a game. I still have Chrono Cross' guide and it's pretty dope. Lots of great art in there.
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Jan 10, 2019 16:21
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The Piggyback guides used to be absolutely gorgeous objects, as well as being useful. I probably still have the MGS2 and the FFX-2 ones kicking around somewhere, and I see they're still making great big lovely hardback ones too.
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Wanderer posted:Man, editing that took forever. It's a really great guide. When I last moved I had to pack up all those old strategy guides I had and when I stumbled on that old Nocturne guide I decided I wanted to keep it around and not in an old bin in my basement. Partly because I believed someday they would do a 3DS port, and partly because it's such a slick, well-made guide with novel-style construction (not that giant flimsy picture book style) that's still nice to flip through and looks cool.
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Jan 10, 2019 17:10
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Demo out in new Zealand or something. Playthrus and the special teaser trailer is out on YouTube. Just a spoiler headsup
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Toughest motherfucker in the entire franchise confirmed to be in RE2Make Massive spoiler
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I'm going to skip the demo. I can wait 15 more days. 30 minutes and 1 life is some tease that'd only serve to make the wait worse.
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I wish the demo was unique content, because I want to be sure the game will run on my PC but I’d rather not spoil the intro. Plus it’d just be cool to have a little episode about a doomed RCPD cop or something. Oh well, I suppose we’re lucky to get a demo at all in this era.
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Anonymous Robot posted:I wish the demo was unique content, because I want to be sure the game will run on my PC but I’d rather not spoil the intro. Plus it’d just be cool to have a little episode about a doomed RCPD cop or something. You are playing as Leon but it starts at the police station so it'll probably just open with him coming in through the front door like you would in the game so I don't know if it'll spoil that much. I'm going to dick about in the first room then have a look around a bit just to see how stuff moves/runs when lots of zombies are on the screen and stuff starts kicking off.
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Jan 10, 2019 18:41
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Is that new Zealand demo release for the console or also steam?
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Just got an IG ad for Fanatical and I can pre order the game there and save a bit? Its like 67 CAD. Anyone heard of this before?
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Yeah it's a legit site, they used to be Bundle Stars. Nothing shady about them.
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drat, I jumped on that deal and then remembered that I won’t be able to refund the game if it doesn’t run now. I sure hope it does, then! I’m paranoid because Evil Within 2 choked unplayably bad on my machine, but I know the pc version of that game was a real disaster.
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I got a 20 dollar gift cert for steam I got for Christmas specifically for this so I'll prob just stick with steam. Thought I could use them together for a minute there and score it for 6 months from now price
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Anonymous Robot posted:drat, I jumped on that deal and then remembered that I won’t be able to refund the game if it doesn’t run now. I sure hope it does, then! I’m paranoid because Evil Within 2 choked unplayably bad on my machine, but I know the pc version of that game was a real disaster. Did re7 run well on your pc? same engine. Any word on the pc demo?
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Never played RE7. It just looked sorta clunky and boring to me.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Never played RE7. It just looked sorta clunky and boring to me. Uh that is a spectacularly bad judgement RE7 is great and the End of Zoe DLC is the best epilogue in the series
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stealing form another forum but: "* Game looks incredible on my base PS4. Runs very smoothly with no dips and looks visually stunning. RE engine is a god"  more Played the demo on a NZ account I made. Here are impressions based off two runs each about 10-15 minutes: * Game looks incredible on my base PS4. Runs very smoothly with no dips and looks visually stunning. RE engine is a god * INCREDIBLY atmospheric. The hallways with no lights on are very tense and creepy and even though you have a flashlight you can’t see that much around you * Character models look great. Didn’t see a single zombie twice (though some did look similar but in different clothes). Leon and Marvin look very good and the voice acting as we know is top notch. * Aiming took a little getting used to for me as I kept missing because of the zombies constant movement, but if you keep calm and don’t go too crazy aiming all over it’s great. Basically, if you work with it it’ll work with you. * One little nitpick is that you have to like double tap to pick up an item which can be annoying as you can easily miss things and leave thinking you picked it up. I almost missed the knife the first time because I thought I took it but I didn’t. * The little touches in the RPD are so good. I randomly saw a poster on my second run of Marvin being Officer of the month that I totally missed the first time * The gore is VISCERAL. Mutilated bodies, blown off heads, people ripped in half etc. It’s so good. * The overall package just feels like absolute quality. On their own these things are cool but together in one it just looks and feels incredible. Capcom honestly knocked it out the park here and I’ve only played 30 minutes of it. capgods.
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Convex posted:Uh that is a spectacularly bad judgement Yeah RE7 is good, but I never actually played any of the DLC - was it good?
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Anyone know what the actual end of the demo is? My time ran out right when Marvin called me asking me to come back. The new trailer it plays shows A LOT. Might want to avoid it if you want to go in blind.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Never played RE7. It just looked sorta clunky and boring to me. Creamed Cormp posted:Massive spoiler
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Creamed Cormp posted:Massive spoiler Oh gently caress yes, haha.
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Andrigaar posted:Same. But then I finally played it and ended up loving it once I got used to the new control scheme and game pace. I'm iffy on half of the DLC, but none of it is bad. Between the PT-lite demo, the push for VR play, and the radical departure from the previous titles, I guess I just sort of lost interest as a fan of the franchise prior. Maybe I’ll swing back around next time it goes on sale.
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