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Fart City posted:I mean have you seen the latter Hellraiser sequels? It’s gotten pretty dire 
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Part 6 is the best F13 film and most self aware. Its easily the first F13 film to wink and nod at the camera where 8 just goes full force. 8 does though have one of the most brutal kills in the series though and its not the boxing match its the disco room kill on the boat.
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Jan 13, 2019 16:13
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Hollismason posted:Part 6 is the best F13 film gently caress yea 
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Jan 13, 2019 16:16
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I think in terms of top kills... X: Nitrogen freeze head smash 7: Sleeping bag bash I was going to make a whole list but I’m sort of forgetting the kills right now, it’s too early in the morning. Those two are good though.
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Jan 13, 2019 16:43
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The kill I like in X is the backbreaker he does to the skinny kid. Not for the move itself, but just afterwards, when the body flips over and flops to the floor.
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Jan 13, 2019 16:48
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I let out a audible chuckle when Frozen Jason fell over and hacked the dreadlocked kids arm off. Jason X might not be a good movie but it’s entertaining as heck and I’ll take it over 3 any day.
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Jan 13, 2019 16:57
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Hellraiser and Hellbound: Hellraiser II are legitimately good horror movies. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth and Hellraiser IV: Bloodline are amusing schlock, worth it for the fans. The rest of the movies are absolute garbage and a waste of time.
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Jan 13, 2019 17:00
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Hellraiser Inferno is just fine 
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Am I missing something with Hellraiser? I thought it was really boring, and I’m the type of person who gets a little wet for slowburn horror that most people consider boring.
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Jan 13, 2019 17:17
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Best kills -Arrow through the neck -Frozen smashed face -Double spearing (a la Twitch of the Death Nerve) -Roadflare in the mouth -Sleeping bag -Squeezing that one dude's head so hard it explodes -Throatsaw In alphabetical order
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Jan 13, 2019 17:44
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The back break that was cut to poo poo by the MPAA is gruesome
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Doctor Faustine posted:Am I missing something with Hellraiser? I thought it was really boring, and I’m the type of person who gets a little wet for slowburn horror that most people consider boring. Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I like the Lovecraftian implications of the cenobites in the first two movies. The leather-culture/BDSM connotations of the villains are interesting too, and reflects Clive Barkers complicated relationship to sexuality (I'd love a queer analysis comparing Hellraiser to Nightbreed). The first movie has some really good performances, but it can never quite decide whether the Frank plot or the cenobite plot is the B plot. Both are solid concepts for a horror movie though so I am not too bothered. The second movie doubles down on the cenobites as the main appeal, but it's messier and the performances are not quite as good. But yeah, if you don't find the hell-dimension / cenobite stuff interesting I can see there not being enough there to hold someones attention. thotsky fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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Jan 13, 2019 17:55
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No this kill is the best kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4M7uGevT0A Not for the actual kill itself, but for the way he awkwardly leans on the light post, and then afterwards takes a little step back, tosses the spear gun to the ground and then turns like a runway model and strolls away.
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Hollismason posted:The back break that was cut to poo poo by the MPAA is gruesome The MPAA should be dissolved and tried at the Hague for their crimes against the F13 franchise.
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Jan 13, 2019 18:08
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The face-through-the-RV kill in Jason Lives is absolutely absurd, but has such awesome effect/sound design, and is such fantastic imagery that it deserves to be included.
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Jan 13, 2019 18:11
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Hellraiser is a good movie but it's not good for the reasons that people typically associate with the name "Hellraiser", and it's disappointingly watered down from the novella in some ways. Like it's more about Julia deliberately self-destructing because she's bored and constrained by her marriage and Kirsty getting caught up in her murder-drama than it is about Frank or Hell or the Cenobites.
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Hollismason posted:The back break that was cut to poo poo by the MPAA is gruesome Yeah this absolutely a top kill and one of the only of the entire series that makes me cringe. If I recall there’s a good one where he just smashes a dudes head into the wall while he is in the bathroom. Just absolutely destroys his skull.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Hellraiser is a good movie but it's not good for the reasons that people typically associate with the name "Hellraiser", and it's disappointingly watered down from the novella in some ways. I'm fine with it because Hellraiser 2 sets up the fact that Julia is the REAL villain of the movies And then they gently caress up real bad
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Jan 13, 2019 20:13
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way late hot take about Halloween 2018 that was probably discussed already: Michael Myers doesn't give a poo poo about Laurie Strode and just wanted to kill some folks. Laurie would have been perfectly safe if she had just locked herself and her family in her cellar. And even then, Michael probably never would've made his way out to her compound anyway. I guess my idea falls apart because of the doctor trying to get them together but whatever, my bigger point still stands: Michael doesn't care about Laurie at all.
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Burkion posted:I'm fine with it because Hellraiser 2 sets up the fact that Julia is the REAL villain of the movies Yeah, sorry, I kind of worded that poorly: I think both versions of the story are really Julia / Kirsty-centric, my ambivalence towards the film has nothing to do with that.
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colachute posted:way late hot take about Halloween 2018 that was probably discussed already: Michael Myers doesn't give a poo poo about Laurie Strode and just wanted to kill some folks. Laurie would have been perfectly safe if she had just locked herself and her family in her cellar. And even then, Michael probably never would've made his way out to her compound anyway. I guess my idea falls apart because of the doctor trying to get them together but whatever, my bigger point still stands: Michael doesn't care about Laurie at all. Oh yeah this was definitely an intentional thing about the movie, Michael is an unstoppable force because everyone has built him up and tries to direct him as if there's a destined super final boss fight needed between him and Laurie.
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This will always be it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLt8ImQwslE NSFW I guess as well.
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colachute posted:way late hot take about Halloween 2018 that was probably discussed already: Michael Myers doesn't give a poo poo about Laurie Strode and just wanted to kill some folks. Laurie would have been perfectly safe if she had just locked herself and her family in her cellar. And even then, Michael probably never would've made his way out to her compound anyway. I guess my idea falls apart because of the doctor trying to get them together but whatever, my bigger point still stands: Michael doesn't care about Laurie at all. Yeah this is the correct view. It was really all Laurie and the Doctors meddling along with the podcasters that set it all up. Michael as soon as he was able immediately started going out and killing lonely women and baby sitters in the neighborhood. Notice he did not kill any of the mental patients that were just wandering around either. Like he just wasn't "kill happy".
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I can't rank every single kill in the series, but we all know there's only one choice for best Jason kill ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyzJStkVC0U
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James Woods Fan posted:Only one episode in but I am actually digging this Purge series. It only gets better. It's legit good.
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Lurdiak posted:I can't rank every single kill in the series, but we all know there's only one choice for best Jason kill ever. You know a kill is good when they have a callback to it in one of the sequels.
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Also the video game
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Burkion posted:I'm fine with it because Hellraiser 2 sets up the fact that Julia is the REAL villain of the movies
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Hot take all Hellraiser movies after 2 are hideous pieces of poo poo that should be removed from our society. 5 is only passable because it has the less to do with the cenobite poo poo. God I hate them.
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The video game one is good as hell.
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It’s bad as hell and Henry Cavill sucks in it
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Easy Diff posted:Just watched Green Inferno, baffled by the choice to have both diagetic and soundtrack drums in one scene and NOT have them be in sync. Why?
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Green Inferno still a better movie than Green Book Fortunately there's Room for one more Green movie that's better than them all.
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nvm wrong thread
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Controversial opinion....I love Green Inferno and have watched it like 5 times, I still lose my poo poo when there all in the cage and it cuts to that one dude having a wank
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When I watched Green Inferno in the October marathon I hated it so drat much that I became kind of obsessed with it and ultimately determined that the entire movie was just Eli Roth fantasizing about sticking it to SJWs who bothered him on Twitter by having them eaten by savage brown people. Mainly because he said it was. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-eli-roth-green-inferno-sjw-20150709-story.html quote:I wanted to write a movie that was about modern activism. I see that a lot of people want to care and want to help, but in general I feel like people don't really want to inconvenience their own lives. And I saw a lot of people just reacting to things on social media. These social justice warriors. 'This is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.' And they're just tweeting and retweeting. They're not actually doing anything. Or you see people get involved in a cause that they don't really know a lot about and they go crazy about it. I wanted to make a movie about kids like that. I think there's a lot great things, obviously, about activism people commit their lives to it. But I want to make a story about kids who don't really know what they're getting into. Get in way over their heads, it actually works. And then the irony is on their way home their plane crashes and the very people they saved think that they're invaders, and just dart them and eat them. And make them the food supply of the village. Green Inferno: Activism is loving gay Also Roth married that much younger actress who he ran through torture and rape acting gambits. Which creeps me out.
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Hellraiser 1+2 are good, but it's very clear that the franchise had a serious identity crisis going forward after that (which wasn't help by the studio's tendency to cannibalize non-related scripts to fit the series). I think the problem is you look at the cenobites, and they're these extreme character designs, and you think they should behave like slasher villains - but that's really not the point of them at all. Hellraiser is at its best when it's a really gory gothic psychological thriller with occasional bursts of strong violence. Pinhead should not be quipping while he slaughters a nightclub full of people, full-stop. It completely misses the point of the character. Edit: additionally: ugh, Eli Roth.
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My first exposure to Hellraiser was seeing like ten minutes of Hell on Earth and yeah, it was the nightclub scene that I remember. The only thing that I remember, and even as a teenager with no taste I was like "this poo poo sucks, why do people like Hellraiser?". Then I watched the first and was like "oh... this is actually pretty good". I need to get around to watching 2 I guess. STAC Goat posted:Also Roth married that much younger actress who he ran through torture and rape acting gambits. Which creeps me out. She was also in Knock Knock where she makes out naked with Ana de Armas. She's like Sheri Moon Zombie is to Rob Zombie, but at least those two have a more age-appropriate relationship. And I'm ashamed to admit I actually kind of liked Knock Knock, mostly for Keanu Reeves King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Is there a good Blu- ray set for the first two? I really want to own them. I only have the American region Blu- ray player. I’ve seen the arrow set but it won’t work for me.
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the two hellraisers that are basically lovely takes on Jacobs ladders are a guilty pleasure of mine. its nice to see dean winters in things That would be hellseeker and inferno Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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