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Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Krankenstyle posted:

also wtf is this poo poo, could it be any more impenetrable

never never never never never ask this

# ? Jan 17, 2019 15:23

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 20:26

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Captain Foo posted:

never never never never never ask this

i know

# ? Jan 17, 2019 15:43

Finster Dexter: Oct 20, 2014; Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

ok here's a tp question

if XML is bad and JSON is bad, then what do? How do I format my RESTive API output?

# ? Jan 17, 2019 16:24

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

actually xml is good.

# ? Jan 17, 2019 16:26

Finster Dexter: Oct 20, 2014; Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

actually xml is good.

well my boss is convinced it's bad bad bad

# ? Jan 17, 2019 16:27

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

your boss is an idiot, hth

# ? Jan 17, 2019 16:28

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Finster Dexter posted:

ok here's a tp question

if XML is bad and JSON is bad, then what do? How do I format my RESTive API output?

base64

# ? Jan 17, 2019 16:57

Arcsech: Aug 5, 2008

Finster Dexter posted:

ok here's a tp question

if XML is bad and JSON is bad, then what do? How do I format my RESTive API output?

just do it like an old Unix utility and do whatever bespoke text format you feel like. a little text parsing never hurt anyone

(just use json)

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:02

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

writer = csv.writer(f, dialect=csv.excel_tab, quoting=csv.QUOTE_NONE, quotechar=None, escapechar='\\')

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:23

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

reminder that json was created as a hack for poor javascript design and performance

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:25

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

Shaggar posted:

reminder that json was created as a hack for poor javascript design and performance

shaggar was right

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:31

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

here's a little homework assignment:

put this number in a value in a json document and send it somewhere: 18014398509481985

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:32

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Are you trying to trick me into broadcasting my IP address???

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:34

Finster Dexter: Oct 20, 2014; Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

Yeah fixed-precision decimal is one of the issues I'm currently wrestling with in our API, as js doesn't have them, so the frontend dev refuses to pull in a decimal library so we're finally just like "use strings then because values like 0.00005000000000000001 are getting hosed up on the way to the backend because they don't match the expected value of 0.00005"

I mentioned XML a few weeks ago and my boss flipped out about lovely xml this and bad xml that

Oh, and then there's the issues with Json.NET... I'm hating json more and more every day

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:36

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Krankenstyle posted:

also wtf is this poo poo, could it be any more impenetrable

code:

for t in range(2, len(word)):
    temp = [(x[0] + (j,), (x[1] * self.tran[x[0][-1]][j] * self.emis[j][word[t]]))
        for j in self.states for x in paths]

I like python, but good God list comprehension is the tool that attracts the most �I just learned this tool it will now be my hammer for everything!� people.

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:47

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

ooh so here�s a fun problem

all SCI variables are 16-bit signed integers. I kinda need numbers larger than 32767...

looks like i get to write a wrapper around 16-bit numbers that makes them into 32-bit numbers and reimplements all the math operators? lol

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:55

TheFluff: Dec 13, 2006; FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
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OF WEALTH AND TASTE

Krankenstyle posted:

oh god converting bytestring py2 to unicode py3 just kill me

we switched production over from python2 to python3 today and it seems like we did the conversion right because so far we haven't had any issues at all really :smug:

found a few very minor obscure bugs that we didn't catch in regression testing, and we needed to flush the cache on deploy because of pickling incompatibilities but other than that it seems to be working perfectly. now we just need to clean out the compatibility libraries and remove the python2 test pipeline from ci and we can officially declare mission complete

# ? Jan 17, 2019 17:59

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

^^^

^^^

ratbert90 posted:

I like python, but good God list comprehension is the tool that attracts the most �I just learned this tool it will now be my hammer for everything!� people.

yeah theyre a magnet for "clever" coders

# ? Jan 17, 2019 19:15

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

also our volunteers did too good of a job :sigh:

we have a bunch of mangled text that we want to correct, so we asked volunteers to correct a subset that we could use for training & verification of the system. i specifically requested that they not move words/lines around, i only wanted letters corrected but they went and did the whole thing anyway so now the diffs are all hosed up and practically worthless because nothing aligns.

# ? Jan 17, 2019 19:18

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Krankenstyle posted:

^^^^^^

yeah theyre a magnet for "clever" coders

I swear to god, every time I submit a PR with a nested loop, some green Python programmer will comment on it and go "You know you can use List Comprehension here yeah? :smug:

" and then produce a single line of unreadable garbage.

To which I will reply "Yes, I am aware of that, but I want my code readable, not parsable."

# ? Jan 17, 2019 20:01

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

my favorite trigger is the DDL one that records all changes to database objects (tables, indexes, stored procs, ...) to a table somewhere so you can find which clown decided to randomly deploy some ad hoc thing outside of source control and gently caress everything up

# ? Jan 17, 2019 20:19

darthbob88: Oct 13, 2011; YOSPOS

Apologies for interrupting trigger-chat, but backtracking demonstrated using ballerinas to solve the 4-queen problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8bM6pxlrLY

# ? Jan 17, 2019 21:00

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

Jabor posted:

it turns out that just having a map you can query in the forward direction, and another map you can query in the reverse direction, is actually a pretty convenient api for this sort of data structure

https://github.com/google/guava/wiki/NewCollectionTypesExplained#bimap

That's not a bifunctor, it's a profunctor. You imbecile. You loving moron

# ? Jan 18, 2019 05:29

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

xtal posted:

That's not a bifunctor, it's a profunctor. You imbecile. You loving moron

I don't appreciate the type erasure you're committing here

# ? Jan 18, 2019 07:18

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

jit bull transpile posted:

I don't appreciate the type erasure you're committing here

# ? Jan 18, 2019 07:58

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

ratbert90 posted:

I like python, but good God list comprehension is the tool that attracts the most �I just learned this tool it will now be my hammer for everything!� people.

I see the exact same effect on people with java streams and C# linq

# ? Jan 18, 2019 13:59

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

I learned today that my company didn't close series B. A fortune 20 company bought us and is dumping $350,000,000 into us. I also have equity. I learn more next week. :stare:

Edit* When the news goes public I am tempted to email my old companies CEO with the good news. :v:

Edit Edit*

They are going to fly all 100 of us to LA for a two-day party/dinner. gently caress yeah! I say, as I stand at LAX flying back home. :v:

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jan 18, 2019

# ? Jan 18, 2019 14:03

Osmosisch: Sep 9, 2007; I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."; Grimey Drawer

ratbert90 posted:

I learned today that my company didn't close series B. A fortune 20 company bought us and is dumping $350,000,000 into us. I also have equity. I learn more next week.

drat, congrats. Time to buy your old company!

# ? Jan 18, 2019 14:04

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

ratbert90 posted:

I learned today that my company didn't close series B. A fortune 20 company bought us and is dumping $350,000,000 into us. I also have equity. I learn more next week.

Edit* When the news goes public I am tempted to email my old companies CEO with the good news.

Edit Edit*

They are going to fly all 100 of us to LA for a two-day party/dinner. gently caress yeah! I say, as I stand at LAX flying back home.

stack that fuckin paper my dude

# ? Jan 18, 2019 14:48

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Captain Foo posted:

stack that fuckin paper my dude

# ? Jan 18, 2019 14:50

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

I don't feel like I deserve it. I'm just an Embedded Linux engineer. I'm sure there's way better ones out there than I am. I was just in the right place at the right time.

I wouldn't even be here had my old coworker called me and asked if I wanted to rejoin the team.

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:09

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

ratbert90 posted:

I don't feel like I deserve it. I'm just an Embedded Linux engineer. I'm sure there's way better ones out there than I am. I was just in the right place at the right time.

I wouldn't even be here had my old coworker called me and asked if I wanted to rejoin the team.

use your millions to buyout sa from lotax and hire non-scam devs to work on it imo

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:12

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

you don't have to keep it

do some good in the world with it

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:14

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Cold on a Cob posted:

you don't have to keep it

do some good in the world with it

Once I have details, I will contact a financial adviser. There's a very high possibility it will be a year or two before they vest fully.

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:15

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

put the money into bitcounts, i heard theyre good

but nice if u strike it rich, good for you. just dont go all gauche nouveau riche on us

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:41

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

ratbert90 posted:

I don't feel like I deserve it. I'm just an Embedded Linux engineer. I'm sure there's way better ones out there than I am. I was just in the right place at the right time.

I wouldn't even be here had my old coworker called me and asked if I wanted to rejoin the team.

Promise me you will use your Applebee's gift card for good, not evil

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:45

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

40% tips

# ? Jan 18, 2019 15:53

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

i tip 25% now on the reg

# ? Jan 18, 2019 16:37

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

gonadic io posted:

use your millions to buyout sa from lotax and hire non-scam devs to work on it imo

if subjunctive wont do it ratbert wont do it

wasn't there also a much earlier facebook guy, did luelinks or some poo poo

# ? Jan 18, 2019 17:05

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Pie Colony: Dec 8, 2006; I AM SUCH A FUCKUP THAT I CAN'T EVEN POST IN AN E/N THREAD I STARTED

didn�t ratbert start his job relatively recently? and what is his equity exactly, stock options? congrats to the dude but lol at pretending he�s going to come out a millionaire from this

# ? Jan 18, 2019 17:37

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