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Mayveena posted:I'm all in on this game. Hopefully there's enough interest so there can be a separate thread. Stick a post in here too if it turns out good
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turboraton posted:Suleiman is here! Wow he lost a lot of weight between games good for him
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turboraton posted:Suleiman is here!
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Mayveena posted:I'm all in on this game. Hopefully there's enough interest so there can be a separate thread. I'd say just go ahead and make the thread... it'll drop off naturally if there's not enough interest
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The Ottomans seem absurdly good. Can't wait to give them a go. I wasn't expecting the [spoilerunique governor at all, which is a cool surprise.
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Midnightghoul posted:Wow he lost a lot of weight between games good for him
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Jan 22, 2019 22:07
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That's a really awesome way of encouraging a distinct playstyle. Reminds me of Endless X games, where the faction has a super specific gimmick that creates unique playthroughs.
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Gort posted:Dunno if this is old news or what, but Civ 5 lead designer Jon Shafer's At The Gates game is hitting steam in three days. Apparently being released with v.bad AI according to Jon Shafer hisself.
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Cynic Jester posted:Apparently being released with v.bad AI according to Jon Shafer hisself.  Well that's that then I guess.
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Jan 23, 2019 21:38
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Ottoman empire? What was this, an empire based around putting your feet up?
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Jan 23, 2019 21:45
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why else would suleiman be such a fat rear end?
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Jan 23, 2019 21:46
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Bedurndurn posted:
It's live now, for better or worse.
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Cynic Jester posted:Apparently being released with v.bad AI according to Jon Shafer hisself. Link? Not to say I don't believe you as the review embargo is over and the three reviews I've read so far echo that, but I'm just interested in what else he may have said like he's going to fix it or something.
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Just read a couple of reviews. Seems the game is fairly okayish? I like how it looks just like the strategic view of Civ 5/6.
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Mayveena posted:Link? Not to say I don't believe you as the review embargo is over and the three reviews I've read so far echo that, but I'm just interested in what else he may have said like he's going to fix it or something. https://steamcommunity.com/app/241000/discussions/0/1744480966986474404/
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Bedurndurn posted:
He admitted that he needs to work on the AI. This is already 1000% better customer service than Firaxis.
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Guess I'll wait 5-7 weeks then! John F Bennett fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jan 23, 2019 |
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John F Bennett posted:Guess I'll wait 5-7
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Jan 23, 2019 22:54
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What's kind of sad is that he did all this work on the tool tips without doing any work at all on a real tutorial. So playing it is kind of like starting Lord of the Rings at Tom Bombadil's house...you kinda get where the story is going but not really.
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Disappointing about At the Gates, was really excited for it, but I think I have enough 4X games with bad AI in my life already.
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First impressions: ATG seems like... a neat toy. It's very open about not being a competitive 4X experience. It seems like an economy management game first and foremost with 4X elements bolted on. I think it has promise (I suspect it may do what it does better than Endless Legend does, although I haven't gotten very far in) but a Civ killer it ain't.
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Toy is a great way to describe At the Gates. I like it, but I don't know what to do with it. I'm putting very much thought into so many different places, but the payoff is so minimal and so far down the road that i'm not seeing any return on that investment. At the moment, it's good if you can go into it with a certain sim city type mentality. I could see myself in certain moods where At the Gates is exactly what I want to play. But overall, it needs to pick up the pacing if it wants to be one of my go to games.
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Jan 24, 2019 08:03
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The price for this DLC is so over the top, they're really trying to milk this mediocre game.
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yeah from time to time I get the urge to wander into this thread and just scream 40 BUX!!!!!!
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Tahirovic posted:The price for this DLC is so over the top, they're really trying to milk this mediocre game. The xcom one was the same. I get that games are underpriced in reality but christ!
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Jan 24, 2019 13:36
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There are cheaper options https://isthereanydeal.com/game/sidmeierscivilizationvigatheringstorm/info/
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Potentially dumb question, but does Gathering Storm include RIse and Fall? It seems like a lot of Civs rely on mechanics from Rise and Fall (governors, dark/golden ages, etc.) but it doesn't say that Gathering Storm includes or requires R&F. If it's essentially 2 expansion packs for $35-$40, that's a bit easier to swallow.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Potentially dumb question, but does Gathering Storm include RIse and Fall? It seems like a lot of Civs rely on mechanics from Rise and Fall (governors, dark/golden ages, etc.) but it doesn't say that Gathering Storm includes or requires R&F. If it's essentially 2 expansion packs for $35-$40, that's a bit easier to swallow. You get all of the R&F mechanics, but none of the R&F civilizations.
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Tahirovic posted:The price for this DLC is so over the top, they're really trying to milk this mediocre game. Expansion pack != DLC.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Potentially dumb question, but does Gathering Storm include RIse and Fall? It seems like a lot of Civs rely on mechanics from Rise and Fall (governors, dark/golden ages, etc.) but it doesn't say that Gathering Storm includes or requires R&F. If it's essentially 2 expansion packs for $35-$40, that's a bit easier to swallow. That's never happened before and the Steam Store page does not include Rise and Fall. What I want to know is if my Season Pass includes it.
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Cynic Jester posted:Apparently being released with v.bad AI according to Jon Shafer hisself. Jon Shafer posted:Post-Release Update Plan I don't think these two quotes are the same thing You might be right, but I don't think "We'll patch the AI 6 months after release" is the same as "The AI at release will be very bad"
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Well according to multiple reviews the ai is basically non existent.
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Thanks, Ill get this a year or two from now when is dirty cheap and all patched up
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I really can't tell if the AI is bad in At the Gates because it seems like it's not supposed to do much. You're not actually competing against it in the game.Mayveena posted:That's never happened before and the Steam Store page does not include Rise and Fall. What I want to know is if my Season Pass includes it. R&F mechanics will all be included in GS, but you need to buy R&F if you want the civilizations from R&F. Your season pass bought the first 6 DLCs; all of which are out already.
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The Human Crouton posted:Your season pass bought the first 6 DLCs; all of which are out already.  Didn't this thread call out that this would happen really early on? That the "season pass" would end up just being all extra small maps, challenges, and single shot civilizations?
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ProfessorCirno posted:
Because I bought my season pass on greenmangaming, I paid $1 over full price for the just the vanilla game for it so I thought I got good value.
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The Human Crouton posted:I really can't tell if the AI is bad in At the Gates because it seems like it's not supposed to do much. You're not actually competing against it in the game. So perhaps a real AI will be an add on through patches? The reviews I've seen says it drags terribly at the end because there's nothing to do but form an army. I dunno, I'm very disappointed.
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Mayveena posted:Well according to multiple reviews the ai is basically non existent. So a TBS game then
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victrix posted:So a TBS game then Yup! I think I’ll just consider it a survival crafting game. That will be less disappointing.
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victrix posted:So a TBS game then Civ4 had a functional AI, and really that all I want. Though I guess you can't really have a good AI if your game systems are trash.
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