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Sometime in the last week my sound device has been getting blocked: after leaving my computer idle for a while, I'll come back and find that I have no sound, and attempting to play test sounds from the Windows Sound panel will error message saying that the device is in use by another application. I can fix this relatively easily by disabling/enabling my Realtek audio device in the Device Manager, but it's happened three times in the last four days and it's getting annoying. Is there a way to check which applications is using the sound device? Volume mixer shows no sounds playing from any application. Closing active applications did not release the device. Exclusive mode is disabled. The drivers are dated 5/22/2018 and have an installation timestamp of 9/19/2018, and the issue has only been happening in the last week. I'm assuming something updated (Discord, Steam?) and is the cause of the problem but I don't know which application it is.
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Does this fucker ever work? 
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Jan 24, 2019 17:07
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Jan 24, 2019 18:35
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What's it do? Could you describe it, I've never seen it work.
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Jan 24, 2019 18:54
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I just opened the weather app to make a screenshot to reply with, and now my live tile doesn't work anymore. It was fine before. whaaaaat the fuuuuck UWP is such a dumpster fire
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Jan 24, 2019 19:40
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Im_Special posted:What's it do? Could you describe it, I've never seen it work. Did you set your location in the Weather app? Because you might have to do that, or at least that's the first troubleshooting step.   For what it's worth, the News tile is the one that takes its sweet-rear end time refreshing on my end of things. Also about half a dozen tiles connected to third-party apps. e: and then I tried to load the app itself and suddenly all of that went away.  But the second time was a charm... 
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Jan 24, 2019 19:40
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Open the Store app and check for Updates too.
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Jan 24, 2019 19:46
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Why you would ever want to tell Microsoft anything even resembling a 100 mile radius from your actual location is beyond me.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:37
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Cause it's not like Apple doesn't already know, or Samsung or whoever. Not having a Weather app does jack poo poo.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:38
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Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off?
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Jan 24, 2019 21:41
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off? lol, here we go again.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:43
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off? Pull your PC from your desk and throw it in the trash. Then yourself.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:49
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off? Install Windows 98.
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Jan 24, 2019 21:50
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Why you would ever want to tell Microsoft anything even resembling a 100 mile radius from your actual location is beyond me. You can get closer than that just with IP addresses and ubiquitous statistical modeling. If you're running Windows and connected to the Internet, they already know where you are-ish. Hell, Microsoft's not quite a Google yet, but they have enough of the Internet's backend that you probably can't avoid them knowing you exist. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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Jan 24, 2019 21:53
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off? If you actually never want to install updates, you're an idiot.
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Jan 24, 2019 22:04
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punk rebel ecks posted:Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off? Also, I love how absolutely pissed off some of you weirdos in here get whenever anyone wants to opt-out from intrusive forced updates (that are occasionally broken). Which is a thing that no other OS on the planet does. You get so fired up, like a single unpatched Windows 10 computer on the internet is somehow going to personally impact you. With all the things flying apart in the world, maybe you could turn that energy toward caring about something that actually matters?
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Jan 24, 2019 22:17
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xamphear posted:You get so fired up, like a single unpatched Windows 10 computer on the internet is somehow going to personally impact you You should really just run Windows 98SE if you're going to refuse to update on a timely basis, yet insist on using Windows. Your system won't be running malware that can successfully infect most other people online at that point.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:01
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xamphear posted:Also, I love how absolutely pissed off some of you weirdos in here get whenever anyone wants to opt-out from intrusive forced updates (that are occasionally broken). Which is a thing that no other OS on the planet does. You get so fired up, like a single unpatched Windows 10 computer on the internet is somehow going to personally impact you. With all the things flying apart in the world, maybe you could turn that energy toward caring about something that actually matters? Android, iOS, and Windows all do automatic forced updates by default. That's what, 90-95% of consumer-facing devices?
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Jan 24, 2019 23:09
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GreenNight posted:Cause it's not like Apple doesn't already know, or Samsung or whoever. Not having a Weather app does jack poo poo. Apple knows where you are, Samsung knows, Google knows, MS knows, the NSA knows, Lowtax knows, etc. Just lol if you're paranoid enough to think every company hasn't already collected a ton of data on you, and double-lol if you're paranoid enough to live "off the grid" and successfully avoid all of that, while simultaneously posting to SA via telegraph and/or carrier pigeon. Not that privacy concerns aren't real, but...it's a little too late....  punk rebel ecks posted:Is there a way to turn Windows Updates permanently off? Best response: GreenNight posted:Pull your PC from your desk and throw it in the trash. Then yourself. ...and honorable mention: fishmech posted:Install Windows 98. ...but seriously, the only conceivable reason you'd want to do that is for a permanently-offline machine, like if you were using a Win10 system to drive digital signage (for some reason.) If you're not connected to teh intarwebs* (and not exposed to local threats like malware on USB storage) then sure, I guess you don't need to keep the OS up-to-date (assuming it doesn't already have some bugs that would be patched by keeping it updated.) *The Innernette would be OK though. xamphear posted:Also, I love how absolutely pissed off some of you weirdos in here get whenever anyone wants to opt-out from intrusive forced updates (that are occasionally broken). Which is a thing that no other OS on the planet does. You get so fired up, like a single unpatched Windows 10 computer on the internet is somehow going to personally impact you. With all the things flying apart in the world, maybe you could turn that energy toward caring about something that actually matters? I get the sentiment, especially since recent Windows updates have indeed been buggy, but in general running an outdated system is a bad idea due to security threats alone. (See fishmech's reply below.) And no, a single unpatched Win10 machine isn't necessarily the issue, but a mass of them, compromised into a botnet definitely has the potential to personally affect you. Not to open a can of worms, but this is kind of like vaccination, where sometimes a vaccine can have an unfortunate side effect, and one person not getting vaccinated isn't necessarily a bad thing, but when it becomes widespread then there are definitely negative effects for the general populace. AreWeDrunkYet posted:Android, iOS, and Windows all do automatic forced updates by default. That's what, 90-95% of consumer-facing devices? I don't think those mobile OS updates are quite forced, are they? I mean if anything, for Android in specific, OS fragmentation is the exact issue. I would love if all of the Android devices I have could be updated to version 9....
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Jan 24, 2019 23:26
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Atomizer posted:I don't think those mobile OS updates are quite forced, are they? I mean if anything, for Android in specific, OS fragmentation is the exact issue. I would love if all of the Android devices I have could be updated to version 9.... In the sense that those devices will typically bug you to install compatible OS updates, and in most cases eventually force the matter if you defer them long enough. A technical enough person can get in there and disable the mechanism (like they can on Windows), but the out of the box behavior for most modern consumer-oriented operating systems is to patch pretty aggressively. It's a good thing, and it's not a just a Microsoft thing.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:33
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OS fragmentation on Android is an issue not because mobile updates aren't forced but because carriers/manufacturers stop pushing updates to devices after about a year and a half because their business models are based around locking people into plans and hawking new hardware.
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Jan 25, 2019 00:38
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Is there also a problem with refusing to click the "check for updates" button because I don't want to destroy my OS by beta testing their poo poo for them? I'm still on 1803, they've been putting out monthly updates for it.Ghostlight posted:OS fragmentation on Android is an issue not because mobile updates aren't forced but because carriers/manufacturers stop pushing updates to devices after about a year and a half because their business models are based around locking people into plans and hawking new hardware. Would they at least tell us if they stop giving updates? I bought my first smartphone summer 2017 and I'm still using it. It was the $200 model from Boost, and it seems to do fine what I need it to do. I'd like to keep it as long as possible.
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Jan 25, 2019 01:00
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Ofecks posted:Is there also a problem with refusing to click the "check for updates" button because I don't want to destroy my OS by beta testing their poo poo for them? Yes, the problem is that you have a completely fake idea that you're trying to prevent.
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Jan 25, 2019 01:03
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Ofecks posted:Would they at least tell us if they stop giving updates? I bought my first smartphone summer 2017 and I'm still using it. It was the $200 model from Boost, and it seems to do fine what I need it to do. I'd like to keep it as long as possible. Hah! If you're lucky, you'll find an end of support page at the manufacturer's website that tells you when your device stopped getting updates. If you aren't lucky (read: most of the cheaper/non-flagship Android devices), the OS was already outdated and insecure when you bought it, and that'll never change.
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Ofecks posted:Is there also a problem with refusing to click the "check for updates" button because I don't want to destroy my OS by beta testing their poo poo for them? I'm still on 1803, they've been putting out monthly updates for it. Nah, you're good. Not really still the same discussion, since you're still getting auto-updates, but you're good. You should probably upgrade once your existing Windows build goes out of support, though. quote:Would they at least tell us if they stop giving updates? I bought my first smartphone summer 2017 and I'm still using it. It was the $200 model from Boost, and it seems to do fine what I need it to do. I'd like to keep it as long as possible. Off-topic, but a lot of Android phones and tablets are basically sent out to die. Sure, Pixels, Android One-based phones, these days probably Samsung and Huawei flagships (as long as they don't get banned from Android by the US Government ZTE-style) and oddly enough Amazon devices because they have to roll their own Android anyway (but they're a pain if you use Google services); those are going to be roughly as safe as any Android-based thing can be for E: three years. Nothing in Android seems to be supported for longer. Might have missed a brand or three but that's what's visible. Other than those, though, you'll have to do your own research and roll the dice. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Jan 25, 2019 01:09
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Android, iOS [...] all do automatic forced updates by default. Nope.
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Ofecks posted:
If you're really lucky they might put out an announcement that support for a phone model is ended, but in general they just quietly drop it. You won't see any indicator of your support status on the phone itself either way. Sometimes a phone might even get updates but only for a specific regional variant, despite the hardware being otherwise identical. In general plan around replacing your phone after 2-3 years because even if by some miracle your phone is still getting updates your battery is going to be significantly degraded in lifespan. Especially for a $200 phone, it's not worth trying to do a battery replacement.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:in most cases eventually force the matter if you defer them long enough. Which mobile OSes will force the matter? My iPhone is still on iOS 10 even though it is eligible for iOS 12. I didn't do any trickery to not upgrade to 12.1.3. I just ignored the upgrade prompts. My parents' Androids (both of them are Essential phones) are still on Android Oreo even though Pie was available on Day 1.
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Jan 25, 2019 01:17
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Ofecks posted:Would they at least tell us if they stop giving updates? I bought my first smartphone summer 2017 and I'm still using it. It was the $200 model from Boost, and it seems to do fine what I need it to do. I'd like to keep it as long as possible.
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dont be mean to me posted:Nah, you're good. Not really still the same discussion, since you're still getting auto-updates, but you're good. You should probably upgrade once your existing Windows build goes out of support, though. Ok, thanks. I found this page (2nd table down) and apparently 1803 will be supported until November of this year. Surely they will serve me 1809 before then. Really kind of worried about phone security now based on the answers I'm seeing. 
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Jan 25, 2019 01:20
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svenkatesh posted:Which mobile OSes will force the matter? My iPhone is still on iOS 10 even though it is eligible for iOS 12. I didn't do any trickery to not upgrade to 12.1.3. I just ignored the upgrade prompts. Ooh, which version of iOS10?
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Ofecks posted:Is there also a problem with refusing to click the "check for updates" button because I don't want to destroy my OS by beta testing their poo poo for them? I'm still on 1803, they've been putting out monthly updates for it. This has been mentioned in the thread before, but actually, clicking that button does pull updates sooner than they would be pushed to your system, and it is interpreted as an opt-in to test advanced updates that don't go out to everybody else.
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Jan 25, 2019 01:51
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Raygereio posted:If you have Pro you can set a group policy to not download & install updates automatically and instead notify you. That way you have control over when the PC reboots. Windows updates tend to freeze my computer so... I've never had an OS where updates so often messed things up before.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:55
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Klyith posted:I just opened the weather app to make a screenshot to reply with, and now my live tile doesn't work anymore. It was fine before. yeah the tiles broken. uwp does a lot of things right and a lot of things dumb. in this case it's nothing to do with uwp though. i looked up the bug and it has to do with .net where passing IEnumerable<System.Uri> would result in an exception which of course was unhandled. fixed merged into main today. should be in build 18326 or later (or whenever if they update the app via the store I guess?)
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Jan 25, 2019 04:59
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punk rebel ecks posted:Windows updates tend to freeze my computer so... You mean when it's on the "Installing update x of y" screen when shutting down/booting up? It's probably not frozen, sometimes it just takes a long rear end time on that screen and there's no visual feedback on whether or not it's progressing. I'm guessing Windows is extra slow there for safety as well (multiple verification steps in case of interruption i.e. the user just hit the power button because it was taking too long).
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punk rebel ecks posted:Windows updates tend to freeze my computer so... There might be a hardware problem with your computer. I had a power supply go out many years ago and it came with random freezes like that. I had an SSD go out a couple years ago, same thing. Probably different causes (probably 'could no longer deliver enough power' and 'onboard processor lockup' respectively).
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Jan 25, 2019 05:21
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Atomizer posted:This has been mentioned in the thread before, but actually, clicking that button does pull updates sooner than they would be pushed to your system, and it is interpreted as an opt-in to test advanced updates that don't go out to everybody else. Oops.
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Jan 25, 2019 07:15
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So it isn't actually busted, but also wasn't supposed to be available for button-pushers, AND ALSO got fed to users automatically. So 'don't push the button unless you want to be the first wave of an update' didn't even help here. That's a big drat blunder.
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Jan 25, 2019 07:19
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Yeah. Recently wiped and reinstalled from Windows 10 Professional to Windows 10 2019 LTSC simply because I won't use any of the apps and I prefer my updates be more controlled (you know, tested and proven, ultimately just security updates, right?) One week later, fast forward to today. Strange, Windows is telling me I have to restart to complete updates? I think I should check Update & Security. Hm, it installed KB4481031 outside normal Patch Tuesday? Let me Google this. What? quote:The cumulative .NET Framework update was listed as a preview update and as such, should never have been offered as an automatic update on Windows Updates. Alright, I'm done. Adjusted Group Policy / Configure Windows Update to ONLY NOTIFY ME. The gently caress, man?! Why is this poo poo still happening?
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Christ, that's actually worse than I'd thought so far. It turns out Microsoft pulled a Microsoft; who knew?
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