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Hollismason posted:Just a reminder that Brando conspired to sexually assault a actress with the director of Last Tango in Paris and did in fact assault her. Right. And that should always be considered paramount over how much an rear end in a top hat he was on set.
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Deadguy2322 posted:Brando and Jodorowsky both raped actresses on film in the name of art. There's solid odds Jodorowsky was either entirely full of poo poo or deliberately misrepresenting the situation, FWIW.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:There's solid odds Jodorowsky was either entirely full of poo poo or deliberately misrepresenting the situation, FWIW. He talked about it in the last few years, and he’s been more honest about a lot of things. Basically, the rape scene in El Topo, he decided the reaction would be more genuine if he really raped the actress. The actress corroborates the story. He says he wouldn’t do it that way now, for what little that is worth.
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Deadguy2322 posted:He talked about it in the last few years, and he’s been more honest about a lot of things. Basically, the rape scene in El Topo, he decided the reaction would be more genuine if he really raped the actress. I don't think this is the case at all going by the actual scene in the movie plays out. The only mention I could find of the actresses name anywhere when I tried to learn more about this a while ago was of her appearing in a documentary about midnight movies in 2005 I couldn't find a copy of at the time. More importantly, unlike with Brando and Bertolucci being completely irredeemable pieces of poo poo this was actually arranged with the woman (her name is Mara Lorenzio) beforehand. IIRC after it was filmed how it was edited afterwards was informed by her telling Jodorowsky about how she had been raped irl too. Whenever I tried to research this I'd find a lot of people echoing that it's an unsimulated sex scene (which it obviously is not if you watch the movie) and I could never find anything in her own words. It's weird because of how he speaks though, I mean he's a sexual assault survivor himself going by Endless Poetry and, beyond how that relative treated him, depending on how you want to read the film he was also molested by his mom repeatedly. But I notice he often uses the word rape in English in weird ways too. I couldn't find anything recent where he speaks about this either though. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Alright I googled to refresh my memory and, yeah, I was right, as far as I can tell: nobody, up to and including possibly Jodorowsky himself given the sheer quantities of drugs he was on, has any idea what the gently caress happened on that set and Jodo himself has told the story in about 5 different mutually exclusive ways (and specifically pointed out the rape version as a lie to rile up critics). The actress, for her part, never worked in film before or since, seemingly vanished off the face of the Earth after the shooting of El Topo, and most certainly has not commented on this.
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Lurdiak posted:That sounds like a typical smear. Yeah, "they're not really a minority" is the most basic smear against any activist of any prominence They're still using it against AOC lol
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Deadguy2322 posted:Brando and Jodorowsky both raped actresses on film in the name of art. Wait loving what?
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s.i.r.e. posted:Wait loving what? See my and LORD OF BOOTY's posts regarding Jodorowsky. When filming last Tango in Paris, Maria Schneider just knew that a sex scene was going to happen, but Brando and Bertolucci additionally conspired to have Brando lubricate her butthole with a stick of butter without informing her. The reason being that Bertolucci to paraphrase wanted her honest reaction as a girl, not an actress. So gently caress Brando and Bertolucci forever and also double Bertolucci forever for acting like he was sorry about it but like it was still some important artistic choice.
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Jan 25, 2019 18:19
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It’s absolute bullshit Toni Collette didn’t get nominated.
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Basebf555 posted:So that Cat People remake is pretty good right? I need to watch a few more classics before January ends and I guess it qualifies because it's a remake of a classic, but it's actually worth my time right? Late to the party, but oh Jesus loving Christ no. It's got a good Bowie song, a nice opening shot and Nastassja Kinski with no clothes on, but everything else about it could suck a football through ten feet of garden hose.
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Drunkboxer posted:It’s absolute bullshit Toni Collette didn’t get nominated. My man
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Drunkboxer posted:It’s absolute bullshit Toni Collette didn’t get nominated. strong agree. also alex wolff for the car scene alone but this is the fate of horror films in award shows
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alf_pogs posted:strong agree. also alex wolff for the car scene alone but this is the fate of horror films in award shows It's so fuckin' lame because even beyond just horror folks, like Google "Toni Collette" and a bunch of the first links now are "Toni Collette was robbed," "Toni Collette Oscar snub," like her performance was fuckin' amazing and got real attention. Need a Phantom of the Paradise-esque film about film award shows.
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Drunkboxer posted:It’s absolute bullshit Toni Collette didn’t get nominated. I'm gonna loving riot tbh
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Annihilation, Mandy, Hereditary and Suspiria all getting snubbed is p criminal
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Pomp posted:Annihilation, Mandy, Hereditary and Suspiria all getting snubbed is p criminal I don’t think Mandy could even be considered since it was released on VOD before being in theaters, or something to that effect.
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Pomp posted:Annihilation, Mandy, Hereditary and Suspiria all getting snubbed is p criminal Take a breath and remind yourself that the Oscars aren't actually about what's good. Like, I'm a big fan of Nick Cave, but I don't get all worked up when he isn't nominated for a bunch of awards. I know any album he releases in any year is going to be light years past whatever bullshit wins a bunch of awards in the same year. It's not really worth getting worked up about.
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InfiniteZero posted:Take a breath and remind yourself that the Oscars aren't actually about what's good. 
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Not pictured above: a man who is concerned about releasing an album that beats out Imagine Dragons for some award.
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It’s not like I ever expect horror films to get a lot of recognition at the Oscars, but I thought for sure Collette would at least be nominated. Hereditary was critically acclaimed and so much it was on the shoulders of her performance.
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InfiniteZero posted:Not pictured above: a man who is concerned about releasing an album that beats out Imagine Dragons for some award. So I got extremely mixed up and thought "Nick Cave" was actually a typo for "Nick Cage" and we were still talking about Mandy.
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InfiniteZero posted:Take a breath and remind yourself that the Oscars aren't actually about what's good. To be clear, I am just posting and am not actually upset not do I care about the Oscars in any capacity except when shape of water won best picture that was cool
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Pomp posted:To be clear, I am just posting and am not actually upset not do I care about the Oscars in any capacity except when shape of water won best picture that was cool So long as we're being clear, I am in the unpopular opinion camp with Mark Kermode about Herditary and thought it was total poo poo in the first place. We can all still get along. MANDY was loving amazing though. Let's talk about that more.
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Mandy not getting public outrage for no nomination for best score is a real snub tbh
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I literally would not have known it existed except for this thread and a few random Cheddar Goblin memes. But mostly I just went looking for "Cheddar Goblin" and was like "oh, that's part of that Nic Cage movie the horror thread is talking about?"
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Mandy actually couldn't win an academy award because it didn't run in theaters for long enough before going to VOD per their weirdo rules.
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Honestly Mandy not even having a shot at cinematography just because of a technicality is a pretty good summary of why the Oscars are absolute bullshit. Artistry is often the last thing to be factored into going home with a statue.
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it wont take home an osxar bur it has takrmen our hearts and thats what matters
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Kvlt are you drunk
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His favorite movie is Evil Bong.
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Almost Blue posted:Mandy actually couldn't win an academy award because it didn't run in theaters for long enough before going to VOD per their weirdo rules. There is a Netflix film up for besr picture.
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Bluedeanie posted:There is a Netflix film up for besr picture. Yes, which Netflix carefully screened in theaters ahead of VOD in LA/NY according to the rules for Oscar qualifications.
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Neo Rasa posted:See my and LORD OF BOOTY's posts regarding Jodorowsky. That's incredibly hosed. Also this part of the sentence: quote:lubricate her butthole with a stick of butter Sounds funnier than it actually is in my head.
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Well, I immediately fell behind on this thread. That doesn't matter now though. I'm heading to Sundance in *check clock* 15 minutes and here are the horror or horror adjacent movies I'll be seeing: The Nightingale quote:Writer/director Jennifer Kent’s The Nightingale premiered in the 2018 Venice International Film Festival’s Venezia 75 competition. Kent launched her debut feature, The Babadook, in the Midnight section at the 2014 Sundance Film Festival. The Lodge quote:Devoted to their devastated mother, siblings Aidan and Mia resent Grace, the younger woman their newly separated father plans to marry. They flatly reject Grace’s attempts to bond, and they dig up dirt on her tragic past—but soon they find themselves trapped with her, snowed in in a remote holiday village after their dad heads back to the city for work. Just as relations begin to thaw, strange and frightening events threaten to unearth psychological demons from Grace’s strictly religious childhood. A Hole in the Ground quote:Sarah moves her precocious son, Chris, to a secluded new home in a rural town, trying to ease his apprehensions as they hope for a fresh start after a difficult past. But after a startling encounter with a mysterious new neighbor, Sarah’s nerves are set on edge. Chris disappears in the night into the forest behind their house, and Sarah discovers an ominous, gaping sinkhole while searching for him. Though he returns, some disturbing behavioral changes emerge, and Sarah begins to worry that the boy who came back is not her son. Wounds quote:Will is a bartender in New Orleans. He has a great job, great friends, and a girlfriend, Carrie, who loves him. He skates across life’s surface, ignoring complications and concentrating on enjoying the moment. One night at the bar, a violent brawl breaks out, which injures one of his regular customers and causes some college kids to leave behind a cell phone in their haste. Will begins receiving disturbing texts and calls from the stranger’s phone. While Will hopes to not get involved, Carrie gets lost down a rabbit hole investigating this strange malevolence. They’ve discovered something unspeakable, and it’s crawling slowly into the light. Koko-di Koko-da quote:Knowing their relationship is falling apart, Elin and Tobias embark on a mirthless camping trip hoping to find their way back to one another. Instead, they find themselves in an endless loop of torment, humiliation, and tangled dreams at the hands of a troupe of outlandishly distorted nursery-rhyme antagonists. Corporate Animals quote:Lucy (Demi Moore) is the egotistical, megalomaniac CEO of Incredible Edibles, America’s premier provider of edible cutlery. In her infinite wisdom, Lucy leads her staff, including her long-suffering assistants, Freddie (Karan Soni) and Jess (Jessica Williams), on a corporate team-building caving weekend in New Mexico. When disaster strikes, not even their useless guide, Brandon (Ed Helms), can save them. Trapped underground by a cave-in, this mismatched and disgruntled group must pull together in order to survive. Sweetheart quote:Washing ashore onto a desolate island, Jen (Kiersey Clemons) has already survived a harrowing ordeal. Stranded and alone, she searches for shelter. Finding only the scattered remains of a long-abandoned campground and weary from her terrible journey, she collapses in hope of a peaceful rest. But night is when it’s most dangerous here. That’s when the creature comes. And when it slithers out of the water, it must feed. Little Monster quote:After a rough breakup, directionless Dave (Alexander England) crashes at his sister’s place and spends his days expanding his young nephew’s questionable vocabulary. When an opportunity arises to chaperone an upcoming school excursion alongside the charming and enigmatic teacher, Miss Caroline (Lupita Nyong’o), Dave jumps at the chance to impress her. What he wasn’t anticipating was Teddy McGiggle (Josh Gad), an obnoxious children’s television personality who shapes the excursion’s activities. What he was expecting even less was a zombie invasion, which unfolds after an experiment at a nearby military base goes awry. Armed only with the resourcefulness of kindergartners, Dave, Miss Caroline, and Teddy must work together to keep the monsters at bay and carve a way out with their guts intact. The Wolf Hour quote:It’s July 1977, and New York City is awash with escalating violence. A citywide blackout is triggering fires, looting, and countless arrests, and the Son of Sam murders are riddling the city with panic. June, once a celebrated counterculture figure, attempts to retreat from the chaos by shutting herself inside the yellowed walls of her grandmother’s South Bronx apartment. But her doorbell is ringing incessantly, the heat is unbearable, and creeping paranoia and fear are taking hold. Visitors, some invited, some unsolicited, arrive one by one, and June must determine whom she can trust and whether she can find a path back to her former self. I'll let y'all know if any of them turn out to be good.
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My dudes what’s a good horror podcast to listen to? My regular podcasts are a bit slow this month and I need entertainment for my commute to work
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I watched Annihilation and Mandy back to back and now my brain doesn't work right. They were both great but Mandy was the better.
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Fart City posted:drink a glass of water before you got to bed, kvlt. either way. i dont drink water i acquire all the energy i need thru kale i still need to see mandy somebody come watch it with me
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