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Considering all the other lies and acting Kotoko was bouncing between in that conversation I doubt she doesn’t hate adults, she just also hates Monaca too now.
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The final episode of voice actor talk! Kotoko Utsugi is my favourite of the bunch, mainly due to her fabulous voice actor, Erica Lindbeck. Kotoko was one of her first big roles and since then she's been carving out a great career for herself. She's Kaori Miyazono in Your Lie in April, Futaba Sakura in Persona 5, was recently Black Cat in the 2018 Spider-Man game and recently hit the big screen as Cheelai in the new Dragon Ball Broly movie. To say she does a great job playing Kotoko is an understatement, as she's able to perfectly capture Kotoko's normal state, her anger and most importantly her triggered panic attacks. When you confront her as the boss of Chapter 3 she gives one of the best performances not only in the series, but one of the best vocal performances I've heard in a video game. She's really, really good.  Next we have Nagisa Shingetsu, voiced by another Erica, Erica Mendez. Erica Mendez has great range, and is primarily known for rough voices like the one she gives Nagisa thanks to her roles as Ryuko Matoi in Kill La Kill and Gon Freecs in Hunter x Hunter, but she also does cute high-pitched voices extremely well, such as Akko from Little Witch Academia and Yuuki Konno from Sword Art Online. As of recently she's actually been getting criticised for being in too many dubs, which is kind of insane to me, as she only has a couple of other big roles besides the ones I mentioned already. Maybe she gets so many roles because she's a great voice actor? Nah, couldn't be.  Satan, I mean Monaca, is voiced by Cristina Valenzuela, or Cristina Vee for short. Starting out with a YouTube channel and doing (really great) song covers of various anime songs, she's been voice acting professionally for a decade now. Her most famous roles are Homura Akemi from Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Noel Vermillion from Blaz Blue, Killua Zoldyck from Hunter x Hunter and Shantae from the game series of the same name. She has over 200 roles credited to her name on behindthevoiceactors.com but despite that hearing her is always a pleasant surprise, as you never really know where she's going to pop up. Monaca is definitely outside of what she's most famous for playing, but she does a really great job. Props to her especially for managing to somehow make the most disturbing kissing sounds ever when she was forcing herself on Nagisa.
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Jan 22, 2019 02:57
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I don't think I've particularly drawn attention to it (apart from when it involved Monaca, because of course), but I think the VA for this game is really excellent, front to back, particularly where it counts. Komaru in particular is a standout, which is good, because she's a character that goes through a lot of change, going from a scared shitless, whimpering mess to a heroine confident she can take on what needs to be taken on. I'm also a fan of the Warriors of Hope's VA in total. I can understand why some might find them annoying, but I think they fit perfectly for what's going on, and there's a big VA hazard with the Warriors in that they all have dramatic character shifts at times - the first four having major freakouts that have them almost breaking down entirely, and Monaca turning from adorable and innocent to literally the spawn of Satan. If those aren't executed well, it can really drag the effectiveness of the scenes down, but I think it's pulled off really well here.
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 ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ Alright, let's keep going. We could head up the stairs...  ...or we could find more collectibles.    ♪ BGM: DSO_Beautiful Dead ♫  Wh-Where did this come from? Just be honest! I'm annoying, right!? Uh... Maybe? That's right, I knew it. I'm an annoying woman. I'm scared that...Master might hate me. No, it'll be alright! If you don't want to be seen as annoying, all you have to do is remember the 3 don'ts. The 3 don'ts? That's right, just keep the 3 don'ts in mind, and he'll never think you're annoying. Wh-What is this magic you speak of!? What are the 3 things!? Tell me, woman! The 1st one is: don't want. If you say you "want" this or that, boys will think you're demanding. If you want them to do something for you, first you must be a woman *worth* doing something for! ... The 2nd is: don't be greedy. It's true, it is a woman's nature to never be satisfied and always want more... But you have to fight those urges to be the ideal Japanese woman. ... And the 3rd is: don't last long. You have to give off an aura that makes boys think they have to take you quick or you'll disappear. And if you have that attitude, guys will start paying attention to you all the time. Sounds simple enough... But how do you know this stuff? Well, to be honest, I just came up with the 3 don'ts myself. I used to give love advice on the internet all the time. Y-You... You're a virgin! How are you gonna give advice like that! I thought you said that kind of experience doesn't matter! Chastity is a virtue! Not right now it isn't! ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ On to the next floor.  We find some sparklies here.  ♪ Jingle: Hidden Kids Discovered! ♫ Looks like we missed Jataro. I'll have to see if we can backtrack and get everything we missed this time.  Next, we run into a fairly unpleasant looking area.  ♪ BGM: Silence ♫  What should we do? Are you actually planning to open this obviously creepy-looking door? I mean, there might be something important or useful in here... I-I'm not gonna help you out if a head starts rolling on the floor like last time! Don't say that, it's scary... ♪ BGM: DSO_Despair-Syndrome ♫   Th-That's why I warned you! Argh, jeez, let's get outside!  Wait... This is... What is this? It's written in blood... They're letters, right? Hey, Toko, can you take a look at th-- ♪ BGM: Secret Base ~Left Behind By The Adults~ ♫  Kyaaaah! Gyaaaah! ... D-Don't scare me like that! If you were gonna tag along with us, make your presence known! Jeez! ...So...it was here... Um, Mister Haiji...? You have no idea what this room is, huh? Well I'll tell you... This is a torture room. Those kids were torturing our loved ones in here. Torture!? You guys saw that broadcast too, right? ♪ BGM: DSO_Weekly Despair Magazine ♫  It actually had the opposite effect, though. We were all too afraid to come out... Wh-What? Such a despair-inducing idea... Someone with experience must have planned it... You understand now, right? This room... It represents all the despair we were forced to feel. ...All the adults back at the secret base... Their loved ones were killed right here. ...All of them? It's not an exaggeration. Every single one of us had loved ones killed in this room. Then...those kids somehow discovered all your identities and found your relatives...? Yeah... So? Well, doesn't that sound strange to you? Do you really think those brats are capable of that? Well, "capable" or not, that's what happened! And that's why we can't show any mercy, not anymore! I'll never forgive those bastards, never!  ...You want to see it? When you do... I'm sure you'll no longer want to take their side. W-We're not "taking their side"... It just... It seems like something's off to me... ...You go on ahead... I want to stay here a little longer. I have to... I have to tell the others about this place. I want to be able to describe it. Mister Haiji, I understand how you feel, but... Those kids didn't do it of their own free will... ...Let's just go. Ah, but... ♪ BGM: DSO_Beautiful Dead ♫ He won't even listen to us. It would probably make him even more upset. But...I wanted to ask him about his little sister, too... You heard about that from your hallucinations, right? You shouldn't take that as fact... And not just that, but... A lot of things seem off. Off...?♪ BGM: Silence ♫ The victims are all relatives of the people at the secret base... Doesn't that seem strange? No matter how smart those brats might be, how could they possibly learn who they all were? Jeez... Things are starting to get fishy... But we've come this far... No way we can head back now. ... I'm sure it will be alright. You and me... We can do this. ... Y-You're right...no choice. We have to press forward. ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ Next up, we get to blast some Junk Monokumas.  And then, on to the next level.  ♪ BGM: DSO_Beautiful Dead ♫ Huh? How do you know? I can smell him... His aromatic, sweet fragrance is getting stronger... ...You mean his B.O. is getting stronger? Don't say it like that! It makes it sound like he smells bad! But then again, a smelly Master is good too... That itself is a reward for us... Us...? You're including me in this? Anyway, there's no mistaking it. He's close. But first, we have to get the key. I-I know! That brat called Monaca has it, right? But before we go, let me nourish myself... Ahhh.... Hahhh... Ahhh... Hahhh... ... ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ Nothing much here, we can only enter this door. Which leads to...  ♪ BGM: Like I Would Become A Monster ♫ For some reason...this room creeps me out. I guess they used this room as a war room. Probably made it creepy for ambience... Pretty blunt if you ask me. But I guess you can't expect much from kids... Wow, you're mean. I'm glad you're on *my* side! That's a backhanded compliment... ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ So, here our main objective is to blast this Bomber. And when we do...  ♪ BGM: We Can't Change The World ♫ Do you think Byakuya could be in there? This is exactly the kind of room where he'd be hidden! Gch! But before we head for that passage...  ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ ...collectible!  ...this is the last Socki page. I think Socki just loving died. drat.  Anyway, on to that passage. Let's head up the ladder and see what's there.  ♪ BGM: Alice in the Children's Land ♫ But Master is inside a storage room... What kind of storage room would be up a ladder? Well, let's just check it out for now. ♪ BGM: DSO_Ocean Breeze Dead End ♫  We enter the room, and...       Huh? This person is Junko Enoshima? She's different than how I pictured her. She looks like your typical, trendy teenage girl... Wh-What are you saying? Do you know how many people have died because of her? Sorry... You're right. And more importantly, this creepy room... It's like a cult headquarters.Komaru then notices something. ...What happened?   I see... No wonder. She has a wicked face... Really? Looks like a normal smile to me... That just makes it creepier. Posing with Junko Enoshima and smiling like this... Hmph, no wonder she wants to be The Successor. She worships Junko from the bottom of her heart. ...But...don't you think it's a little strange? Wh-What do you mean? Don't tell me you're still on about that ghost or whatever... If you're curious, you can question her yourself. I thought Master would be here, since this is a hidden room and all. But I guess not... ... ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ There's pretty much everything Junko in here.   The photos are combinations of random backgrounds and Junko sprites. There's also some repeats.  Also, a collectible!    So Monaca was basically being completely ostracized by her family.  That's about it for us in this room. Heading on, we climb another ladder...  ...and find ourselves at a secret door.  That brings us to a higher area at the same place we were before.  ♪ BGM: DSO_Beautiful Dead ♫ We find a locked door! No doubt about it, Master *has* to be on the other side of this door. ... ...Huh? You're not gonna lose your composure this time? You're not gonna like, cling to the door and cry and shout and make ugly faces? Well, it's true that I *might* do that, but it's weird hearing it from someone else. When your purpose lies just before you, sometimes you need be as calm as a corpse. ...That's a creepy example. Anyway, I'm not going to have some half-assed reunion now, but a full, joyous reunion later. And when *that* happens, I'll cry and shout and make ugly faces in Master's arms... ...Are you sure he'd be okay with that? There's no way he'd dislike it! Jeez, you don't understand men at all! You need to be in love... A woman in love is the most beautiful woman of all... ...I'll try to remember that. ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ And then, one more collectible.   Who wrote that? If it was the Warriors, you'd think they'd have called Junko "Big Sis Junko" instead of "The Goddess". So was it a Remnant? Hrm.  And that'll be it for this update. Next time, we're going to begin the endgame proper.
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I just remembered something funny that I'll have to bring up next time, when it's more relevant. Also, I wonder how much face time Mukuro had with Junko's followers, if any.
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TheMcD posted:
It did call her big sis Junko.
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Well, Toko, you did rescue Kotoko from the Monokuma kids, helped Komaru rescue her from Monokuma, and just let her go both times. Taking their side might be a little far, but it's not as much of a stretch as it should be. Socki's saga is finally over with. Thank god. That was the weirdest picture book ever. Also, I now see something  shocking coming up related to Monaca.
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I liked that dating advice conversation; it was charmingly biting. I feel like Danganronpa has great potential for making a cutting feminist/gender-queer focused script if it didn't go for things like, say, a molestation mini-game.
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Jan 24, 2019 06:45
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So Komaru's just going to completely ignore the bloody letters that weren't exactly heavily blurred that said "Komaru Makoto"? She clearly recognized them as letters, and generally people should be able to recognize their own name on sight, without having to call on Toko to help. Like, I suppose it was probably more blurred kanji in the original version, but still.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I just remembered something funny that I'll have to bring up next time, when it's more relevant.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It did call her big sis Junko. loving d'oh. Still, it's weird to just bring up "the Goddess" as a name for Junko out of the blue.
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Cyouni posted:So Komaru's just going to completely ignore the bloody letters that weren't exactly heavily blurred that said "Komaru Makoto"? She clearly recognized them as letters, and generally people should be able to recognize their own name on sight, without having to call on Toko to help. Granted the image quality's not great, but here:  ('Komaru' in hiragana, and then what I assume is 'Makoto', but I genuinely can't read it. The only part I can clearly read is the 'Ko' in Komaru)I don't wanna bag on the localisation team too much, but this happened in the first game too, with Syo's signature message. I know it's significantly more effort to make something look legitimately scribbled in blood than it is to put some filters on a font and call it a day, but it does kind of lessen the impact.
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mycelia posted:Granted the image quality's not great, but here: It's not that much effort. Below is the version from the DR1 translation patch that never was. In the official translation, the message looked like it was stencilled on. 
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So I finished recording Chapter 5 and the epilogue, and... ...uh... poo poo. OK, I know I missed a book that I couldn't backtrack to from where I started from. Same with the Hidden Kid. But where the gently caress did I miss a Kill List and a Bling Bullet? This is going to drive me nuts, I can tell. EDIT: Oh, wait, I did miss the second Kill List in Chapter 5. I collected it, but then I realized I couldn't backtrack all the way back to collect the other things I missed, so instead of walking all the way back, I just reloaded my save. OK, that solves one mystery, but still, where the gently caress are the other Bling Bullets? I bought every shop clean I found! Oh, also, check that Monocoin count. Gotta get that cash. TheMcD fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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Fedule posted:It's not that much effort. Below is the version from the DR1 translation patch that never was. In the official translation, the message looked like it was stencilled on. Yesss see if I hadn't been so lazy I would have pulled that image as an example of it done right, I remember you (or maybe oren?) posting it when Trigger Happy Havoc was released. The things we could have had 
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mycelia posted:Granted the image quality's not great, but here: I'll be honest, turning that upside down, sideways, and any which way, I can't actually read that. Doesn't seem to look like it'd map to the same message, either, though that might just be the blur. I can see the 'ru', kind of, but that 'to' and the 'ma's are incredibly blurred. They should have at least tossed on more blur for the localization.
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 ♪ BGM: Wonderful Dead 005 ♫ Well, here we are. Time to get into the endgame. We run up this winding platform...  ...and arrive at an elevator.  The elevator then brings us to the roof.  Does that thing even fly? It looks like a floating hotel!  ♪ BGM: Last VERSUS ♫ And upon arriving up there, the game throws us into a massive Monokuma melee.  There's a lot of them, basically. This is the last battle we'll have with these Monokumas, so the game goes all out. This group isn't too tough if you just keep your distance and pick them off - it helps that the game lags quite a bit for me here, so it's easier to react.  Some application of Genocide Jack helps too.  Also, in the middle of the fighting, we find some sparkles!  ♪ Jingle: Hidden Kids Discovered! ♫ Only one left. Well, that and the one we missed earlier.  After the group of regular and Guard Monokumas, the game drops a bunch of Ball Monokumas on us, which is pretty hard to deal with, since you always need to be moving or you end up getting hit in the crossfire. I do get hit a few times, but mostly only with noodles, not with the bomb.  After the Balls, the game drops a fuckton of Destroyers on us, which creates a massive dead zone from all the Destroyers shooting at me.  So I decide to use Link for combat purposes for the first time, taking a Destroyer and shooting the others with it. This doesn't kill them, but it causes them to go into their suicide attack.  This would be a problem if I hadn't positioned Komaru behind the pillar so the Destroyers get stuck.  Oh, and there's also some Junk Monokumas. Just for good measure. Random thought: Throughout this entire LP I have been incapable of just typing "Junk Monokuma". My mind works like some phone autocomplete and turns it into "Junko Monokuma".  We pick off the Destroyers stuck trying to suicide attack me.  Then use the more open battlefield to snipe the remaining ones.  After we take out all the Monokumas, the Monokuma kids blocking the path forward bail.  ♪ BGM: DSO_Living to the Fullest ♫ Let's move on.  Also, suddenly, Donkey Kong perspective.  We make it to where we want to go - the entrance to the Excalibur.   There's no obstacles here, it's just a straight shot to the place where we first met the Warriors of Hope. But there's a lot of collectibles to be had on the side paths. And here too!    Monaca loves Junko. Also, I just now noticed that her diaries also have her name as "Monaca Towa". So much for keeping that at least slightly vague with the whole "coming from a ghost" thing.  Another skill shop bought out.  Now, we'll have a few collectibles from the different side paths.      These collectibles are going to show us another side of the Warriors of Hope. A side that shows us them trying to cope or justify sticking through the abuse their parents inflicted on them. We will not be seeing one of these for Monaca, mind. Because Monaca is literally Satan and therefore harbors no such feelings.     Nagisa's strange hangup about expectations still had him trying to live up to his father's insane expectations.     ♪ BGM: DSO_Beautiful Dead ♫ I'm sure *you* wouldn't know this, but that's not rare among pure novels. With a name as prestigious as mine, you don't need a summary to move units. But because this is written by a friend, I at least want to know the synopsis. O-Okay, as a friend...I'll tell you. S-Since you're listening to the author herself, you better clean your ears and listen carefully. Wait! Oh, well, actually...never mind. It's fine, continue. Wh-What's the problem!? Calling me a friend like that, then snatching my moment away from me! You sadist! I-It's not like that! I just think that, maybe because it is your book, I should go into it cold! If that's the case...I guess I understand. But you should be more clear when you speak! You startled me so much, you nearly made me forget the idea for my next book! Oh? You already have an idea for your next work? Who do you think I am?! always have more than 200 ideas in stock! I just haven't decided which idea to use. Well, maybe it would be fun to write about your own experience, like in this town. Write about my own experience, huh? I've heard that advice before. But I've already decided not to write about this town. Or, maybe I should say that even if I do end up writing something, I would never publish it. I'd want to read it, though... A novel about this city, written by you. Like, a novel written about me... About this town...and about what happened to you... I'd rather keep it a memory... A memory just for myself. ♪ BGM: This Is the Path We Follow ♫ Raise your hand if you were waiting for Komaru to say this the entire game. ...Wait, what? What I mean is, it's not just your memory. It's both our memories, together. ... Right? ...You're an average...idiot...but... ... ...Your hairstyle is weird. I-It's not weird! My antenna is charming and really pretty! Jeez, I thought you were actually gonna say something nice to me! Not in a thousand years! But... You made me happy. Hm? Did you say something?♪ BGM: DSO_Junk Food for a Dashing Youth ♫ ...You didn't hear me!? I-I said that you're an average idiot, with a weird hairstyle and a brother complex! Really? I heard you say "You made me happy"... What!? So you *did* hear me! ♪ BGM: DSO_Living to the Fullest ♫ Next, we have another collectible.     Jataro develops his self-loathing complex.  Another one.   Masaru is basically scared shitless of abandonment.  And in one side path that looks like it might not have any collectibles hide some sparkles.  ♪ Jingle: Hidden Kids Discovered! ♫ Only one left now, but we can't get it now. We'll have to wait for our second playthrough.  And with that, it's time.  ♪ BGM: DSO_New World Order ♫  As a side note, every video from now to the end is a very highly recommended one. They have Kurokuma being Kurokuma and Monaca being Monaca, so obviously I'm going to recommend them. Toko...we're going to be alright, aren't we? We've come this far already, don't go freaking out now. They should be scared of *us*! You're right... ...Yeah, I guess you're right! After all, we're a powerful team. Wait, "powerful team"...? Can't you think of a cooler name than that? Well then, you think of one! You're the Ultimate Writing Prodigy, after all... Yeah, you're right... I'll think of something after the happy ending. Yeah... After the happy ending. Alright, let's do this.  ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ We enter the room, and...  ...huh.  ♪ BGM: DSO_Mr. Monokuma's Extracurricular Lesson ♫  So slow! This isn't a manga, it shouldn't take a whole year for a day to pass! A black...Monokuma? What is he...? He looks...vulgar. Hey, gently caress off, Four Eyes! I wouldn't expect some pasty four-eyed emo chick to understand my charm. I get no respect.I know Haiji told Komaru and Toko to "get the gently caress out", but straight up telling somebody to gently caress off is another step above that. Kurokuma is great.  Yo, I'm so baller, if a professional musician ever came to my concert, they'd retire the next day! I'd make 'em choke on the Haterade! And you're gonna be chokin' too when I'm done with ya! Wh-What is this thing!? Blabbering on with its nonsense... Could it...? Does it have an AI, like Shirokuma? Didja say Shirokuma? So ya know him, huh? How's Li'l Bro doin'!? Brothers...? Well, he's *like* a brother! We bearfolk stick together, y'know!? But that ain't important! Don't you think it's strange? Huh? Weiiird!? I'm talkin' about why Monaca ain't here! To tell ya the truth... It's nap time for little Monaca... ...Nap time? Well yeah, she's still a kid, after all! She wore herself out bein' all hyped up!I love this, too. You make your way to the big confrontation with the mastermind, and when you show up, she's nowhere to be found because she's taking a nap. And it's not like it doesn't make sense, either - she's like eight years old. Even hellspawn needs to sleep occasionally.  ♪ BGM: It's a Kids' World ♫ If you're brave enough chicks to disturb her nap, you could always try opening the door... ...Which door? Hell if I know! Monaca made this little trap to keep out bigmouths like me, see? If you open the wrong door, blammo! Instant death! Hm, hello nasty! Buuut, if you leave her be, she'll sleep for like, three years! Now whatcha whatcha gonna do!? Hurry! Choose! Dammit you're makin' me impatient! Komaru... You've seen that Monaca kid before, right? So what do you think? Any idea which door she would choose? Hm, rather than "choose," it's more like... Which would she even be able to access...? But it can't be *that* simple. He said it's a trap, so it can't be easy. Y-Yeah, you're right... ♪ BGM: Riddle Land ♫ Well, it's time to choose. Basically, the game expects you to be paying attention and notice this particular twist about Monaca ahead of time in order to answer this riddle. Yes, those that have been paying attention will have noticed a contradiction - when we accessed Monaca's room, we did it by way of a ladder. There is no way a wheelchair-bound person would make their room only accessible by a ladder, so the only conclusion is that Monaca is actually not wheelchair-bound. And with that, we know which door to choose.  The blue one, which is only accessible by a ladder.  ♪ BGM: Silence ♫  This scene and the one that will be coming in the next update combine to make my favorite in the game. These scenes are why I love Monaca, and I hope you will too afterwards. We open the door, and...  ...Monaca just comes flying out!   And she sticks the landing!   Whoaaaaaaa!Kurokuma can't deal and falls out of his throne.   Good morning! Good morning! Komaru shows an expression that is less "doesn't know what the gently caress" and more "is Komaru Naegi gonna have to smack a bitch?".  ♪ BGM: Like I Would Become A Monster ♫ Huh... I thought that's Haiji's line... I knew it... You can stand... Your legs aren't paralyzed... ...  And you were like that from the beginning, right? You just pretended to be disabled. Ah, don't tell me... You saw my secret room, didn't you? So that *was* your room... But something didn't add up. There's no way you would make a place like that your room if your legs were disabled.  Ufufu, you might have a stupid-looking face, but you sure are pretty smart. But why pretend that you're disabled? Because pitiful children are the most powerful, don't you think? ...Huh?♪ BGM: Ghost Stories From the School District of Revolution ♫  Monaca's home life was terrible... She didn't feel like she belonged there. But Monaca was more brilliant than her brother or her father, and they hated her for it... But then, I thought of a way I could counter their neglect and cruelty... All I had to do was become a pitiful figure... Then, I would have the whole world's sympathy. ... The wheelchair was inconvenient, of course, but thanks to the act, I acquired much...  They thought they were the reason I ended up in a wheelchair, so they *really* pitied me. You tricked everyone all this time... You... You're the worst... You're more awful than all the other kids... Maybe. But to survive in that horrible world... I had to be. When Monaca talks, everyone freezes... When Monaca smiles, everyone stops smiling... For Monaca, the outsider, the eyesore, to survive in that house, she did what she had to do. ... I wanna ask you... The "Papa" and "Big Brother" you mentioned... Are they from the Towa family? ...Oh, so you know that much, too... See, Toko! It *wasn't* a hallucination! The ghost was real! I-It's a coincidence! Delusion and fantasy with a little coincidence mixed in!♪ BGM: DSO_Mr. Monokuma's Extracurricular Lesson ♫ It's true, fantasy and reality overlap sometimes! I'm so desperate to make my fantasies real... That's why, whenever I think about the girl I like, I strip her naked in my mind, and pose her-- Okay, now's not the time for that talk. Silent mode! ♪ BGM: Ghost Stories From the School District of Revolution ♫  So... You're the one who made Komaru come here by using that skinny white-haired boy, right? Why would you do something that could compromise your own plan? My plan...? Oh, you mean the Children's Paradise. Well, personally, I don't really care about that. Monaca has a much more important job to do. Does it have something to do with The Successor...? Yep, that's right. The Successor is the most important thing to Monaca. And for that plan, I wanted you to come this far, Big Sis. After all... You are essential for The Successor... ...Huh? Just what I'd expect from the little sister of the Ultimate Hope! You're so impressive, meow! Completely different than when I first met you! How you have the face of a savior... Savior? Komaru has the face of a high school girl you'd find anywhere... B-But who cares about any of this!? Hurry up and hand over the key to Master's room! Key? Monaca doesn't have anyyything like thaaat. Don't play dumb! Hand it over! Like I said, I don't have it! You want to strip search me to make sure? Monaca doesn't mind... But weren't you guys in a hurry?  ♪ BGM: DSO_DISTRUST ♫ You wanna break this controller, right? You wanna stop Mister Monokuma, riiight? I-Is that!? Monaca Towa, chief executive of Towa Group Robotics Branch... And as long as Monaca has her magic, Monaca can control the Monokumas and the Monokuma Kids... Y-You're the one brainwashing them, too!? Huh? You didn't know that? Hmph, this idiot brat slipped up. In that case, I'll make you hand over the controller by force! And after that, I'm going to make you hand over the key to Master's room with even *more* force! Hm... No, I don't think that's possible... After all, I have a trump card. A trump card...? A super big awesome battle robot the Towa Group Robotics Branch created... That is Monaca's masterpiece! It's sooo much better than the other Warriors of Hope robots! Sooo, Mister Kurokuma! I leave it to you! ♪ BGM: Decisive Battle With The Mage ♫ Hell yeah! Leave it to me, Monaca!   The throne gets covered with a red cloth...  ...which starts twisting and moving...       ...revealing a loving massive battle robot.  Kurokuma gets absorbed inside the robot...  ...and Monaca takes a seat inside the staff.  It's time to fight.   Also, the adults outside of Towa Hills are also seeing the battle and are cheering us on.  ♪ BGM: The Warriors Of Hope ♫  So, time for the big boss fight. This, as you might gather from the robot being comprised of parts of the other robots, is a sort of culmination of all the other boss fights, with some new stuff on top. Plus, it's a boss fight with Kurokuma banter. That makes it even better.  The main way to fight this robot is to shoot the flashing joint parts. This is not always easy.  The first attack we get to see is the one from Kotoko's robot - it moves towards us and tries to attack us with the axe.  Then we get to see the one from Masaru's robot - it tries to charge us with the drills. This one is relatively easy to dodge if you're always moving.  Monaca tries to make her attacks for the sake of the other Warriors of Hope we've beaten, but... well, she doesn't quite care about them that much.   Next, we get the attack from Jataro's robot - we get some explosive Monokuma bullets shot at us. I'm still not good at dodging these.  The main opportunity we get to hit the joint parts on the back is after the axe attack. The other ones don't give too much of a window (though you can get one shot off if your aiming is good).  If you hit all the joint parts, Kurokuma comes out of the robot, and you have to blast him.  After shooting him a bit, he jumps back into the robot, and we repeat the process with more joint bits flashing.  We also fall victim to a new attack - the robot jumps into the air, then drops back down, causing a bunch of explosives to spread around the arena. I happened to be standing right in one and got blown up immediately.  Here's a better look at the explosives. They stay static, but make dodging away from this giant robot a bit hairy, especially since the arena seems smaller than usual.  I also get smacked around by Nagisa's robot's attack - the robot preps for a bit, giving you a warning, but then quickly jumps up and blasts everywhere.  This fight goes on for four rounds of this joint shooting, and at the end, basically every joint on the robot is flashing.   Eventually, we win. Overall, I think I prefer Nagisa's robot fight for overall execution because of the cool arena, but this one is also a great fight, plus, like I said, it has Monaca and Kurokuma, so that obviously makes it better. Anyway, I know this is an odd place to cut, but this is where we'll end the update for now. I have a reason for this, so just trust me on this for now.
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I blindly and completely trust that beating a giant robot is certainly the way to absolutely undo all of Monaca's plans.
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Jan 26, 2019 22:42
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So hey, I believe that this is the only boss where using dance doesn’t let you do more damage by keeping the weak point exposed longer. You can still make Kurokuma dance of course but it doesn’t really do much to keep him out of the robot.
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FoolyCharged posted:Has komarov figured out that Nagito will chop off his Junko hand and stitch it onto Haiji. Maximum wild ride.
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SSNeoman posted:Nagito will chop off his Junko hand and stitch it onto Haiji. Maximum wild ride. Hell, I'd be down with that.
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I forgot the ladder thing was actually addressed. That was the funny thing I was talking about last time. Dab.  Also, that "I was about to donate to charity" line reminds me of Bender. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Now, this particular video is like 45 minutes long. I know that seems absolutely massive, but this part is the highlight of the game IMO. This particular mammoth of a scene is the best out of them all. Also, this is very much a "this will explain everything" scene. Expect a ton of things to get cleared up. Anyway, last time, we fought Monaca's battle robot and won. The robot blows up like the other ones... ...and sends Kurokuma's head flying out the window. The adults that are watching everything outside Towa Hills are celebrating... ...and the Monokuma kids are also watching from a distance. ♪ BGM: DSO_Welcome Despair Academy ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_New World Order ♫ So yeah, this is obviously all fine. And here we are. Decision time! So, if Komaru's hesitation and Monaca's entirely out of place smile didn't convince you that something is up, you're going to stumble right into the game's trap. The right choice is to not break the controller. ♪ BGM: DSO_All All Apologies ♫ ♪ BGM: It's a Kids' World ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ I can't say this is a surprise. ♪ BGM: Like I Would Become A Monster ♫ ♪ BGM: Ghost Stories From the School District of Revolution ♫ Once again, we're given a choice. Once again, the right choice is to not break the controller. ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Despair-Syndrome ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ So, how about breaking that controller? Nope. ♪ BGM: It's a Kids' World ♫ This is probably not surprising either. ♪ BGM: Secret Base ~Left Behind By The Adults~ ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Weekly Despair Magazine ♫ Hrm. Once again, a choice. Once again, declined. Note that at any point, destroying the controller is a non-standard game over. So far, we have no reason to know that, just a lot of suspicion that there's something really, really important about this decision we don't know yet, and because of that, we probably shouldn't take the option that can't be taken back just yet. We cut to outside, where the adults have taken to chanting "destroy" in unison. ♪ BGM: DSO_DISTRUST ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Desire for Execution... ♫ loving *ouch*. ♪ BGM: DSO_Welcome Despair Academy ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Despair-Syndrome ♫  Monaca... Are you threatening me?♪ BGM: Silence ♫ ♪ BGM: Like I Would Become A Monster ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_DISTRUST ♫ Another choice. At this point, there might as well be neon signs around "break the controller" going "THIS IS A BAD IDEA". ♪ BGM: DSO_Ocean Breeze Dead End ♫ ♪ BGM: It's a Kids' World ♫ Once again, we get to choose. Blowing up the heads of hundreds of children might sound hardcore as gently caress, but I think I'll pass on the idea. ♪ BGM: Like I Would Become A Monster ♫ ♪ BGM: Secret Base ~Left Behind By The Adults~ ♫ Once again, we cut to the adults chanting "destroy". ♪ BGM: DSO_DISTRUST ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Despair-Syndrome ♫ ♪ BGM: Ghost Stories From the School District of Revolution ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Ocean Breeze Dead End ♫ Once again we cut to the adults, however they've now traded in chanting "destroy" for just outright chanting "kill". Now, don't touch that dial! This update is too massive for one post to hold, so check further for the second half!
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♪ BGM: DSO_DISTRUST ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_DISTRUST ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Living to the Fullest ♫ Another choice. But again, we have to choose to not destroy the controller. ♪ BGM: DSO_Ocean Breeze Dead End ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_New World Order ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ Well, we know that when Monokuma kids bring in a TV, what's on that screen isn't going to be particularly pleasant... Oh no. ♪ BGM: Absolute Terrified Girl ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Living to the Fullest ♫ ♪ BGM: DSO_Welcome Despair Academy ♫ ...well then. We only have one choice now. ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ But then, this happens. We're suddenly in control of Toko, and when we run towards Komaru... Toko just straight runs over Komaru... ...knocking the controller out of her hand. ♪ BGM: Like I Would Become A Monster ♫ Toko then quickly grabs it herself. Komaru, meanwhile, is in full "komaru.exe has stopped working" mode. But suddenly, the entire room starts shaking. ♪ BGM: DSO_Weekly Despair Magazine ♫ Uh... I don't think this was supposed to be possible. Big Bang starts smashing up the place. While the others run, Monaca just kind of... stands there. Toko grabs Komaru and runs. And as Big Bang smashes into the place again... ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ Meanwhile, Komaru and Toko have made it to an outside deck on the Excalibur. ♪ BGM: This Is the Path We Follow ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ Oh, right, there was something else. Big Bang has it out for our intrepid duo. It's time for one more fight. ♪ BGM: DSO_New World Order ♫ And here we are at the true final boss fight. The game waited all this time to bust out the discussion theme, and boy did it pick the right time. Big Bang has several attacks, starting with him swinging his scepter at particular areas of the arena. Moving solves this problem fairly easily. When Big Bang moves its hand away from its eye, that's our chance to attack. The color of the eye indicates what we should shoot with. So here we have a blue eye we shoot with Break. Next up is a yellow eye, meaning we use Paralyze. However, I think if you're not fast enough, you get zapped. I didn't notice any real way to dodge it except shooting it quick. The next attack is a light blue, meaning Knockback. Here, Big Bang summons an explosive similar to what Jataro did, and we shoot it back at it. At times, after getting hit, it falls forward, giving you an opportunity to attack it with Genocide Jack. It also has an attack where it charges up something on its scepter and then slaps the poo poo out of you with it. The only way to dodge this seems to be to switch to Genocide Jack, who is invulnerable. Big Bang can also glow red and start charging at you. Here, you're supposed to shoot Burn at it. From that point on, it's just a matter of dealing damage whenever you can until you enter the final phase. The final phase is, surprisingly, some Despair Time inputs! The first input has Toko shock Big Bang with the stun gun... ...then Komaru shoots it with Paralyze, and then we enter a cutscene. Toko goes Genocide and jumps super high into the air with Komaru. ♪ BGM: DSO_DANGANRONPA ♫ And Big Bang gets blasted with the super Truth Bullet. ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ And it doesn't seem to be taking it all that well. Its head blasts up into the sky... ...to the bewilderment of Komaru and Toko.. ...but then also makes its way back down... ...landing right back where it started. And the eye is about to shatter, revealing who it was who piloted Big Bang! And it's... ...Shirokuma!? And as Big Bang Monokuma lies defeated, the adults aren't too happy. ♪ BGM: DSO_Welcome Despair Academy ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ And off she goes. And off he goes too. And all she can do is laugh. The Excalibur starts blowing up... ...and crashes into the ground near Towa Hills. This causes Komaru and Toko to lose their footing. They've already made it back into Towa Hills and have entered the area where Byakuya is supposed to be kept. ♪ BGM: DSO_Desire for Execution... ♫ ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ And that's the chapter! I missed out on one Hidden Kid, but thankfully, that's enough for an A. And as a reward, we get high praise and a new skill. I haven't checked what it does yet, though it's related to Genocide Jack somehow. ♪ BGM: Chapter End ♫ We're almost done. There's only two things left to do - replay Chapter 5 and get the stuff I missed, and the epilogue. We'll be doing them in that order.
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Hell of a place to stick a Simpsons reference.
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That was a whirlwind of a series of events, that's for sure.
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Suicide pact? Just a prank, bro.TheMcD posted:
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Jan 27, 2019 19:45
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Tee hee...
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Why not? She deserves to die. Leaving her alive is just going to result in her trying all of this poo poo over again. What is wrong with all of you? What war is going to break out with a city that's been reduced to rubble and had nearly all of its citizens killed? There's video of the atrocities committed against these people. The adult's bodies are lining the street. Two of Future Foundation's members are in the city and have first-hand experience with everything that has happened. How exactly is a war going to break out? Do you think the remaining adults are just going to immediately attack when people come to rescue them? Is Future Foundation just going to see what happened and go "Oh, well I guess we better start a full-force assault without investigating anything"? I have so many problems with what is going on here, and I have a feeling the epilogue is only going to compound those problems. Kotoko appears to be heading straight for a redemption resolution, which is flat-out unacceptable garbage. Is this Despair and Hope thing like the Force of this universe? Does it have the same bullshit properties of people being one or the other, and a single action just pigeonholes them into the "Dark Side"? Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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TheMcD posted:
I can't believe Kodaka predicted Metal Gear Solid V. Psycho Knight posted:Is this Despair and Hope thing like the Force of this universe? Does it have the same bullshit properties of people being one or the other, and a single action just pigeonholes them into the "Dark Side"? Yes.
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I still don’t understand the worship of despair or why junko and all these bad guys jump through hoops for a plan that boils down to “make you all feel like poo poo”
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That was some climax.
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Quicksilver6 posted:I still don’t understand the worship of despair or why junko and all these bad guys jump through hoops for a plan that boils down to “make you all feel like poo poo” Same. If you're enjoying "despair" or getting off on "despair" (which Junko and the Remnants of Despair were clearly shown to in DR1& DR2)...well then it's not really "despair" then is it?
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If I'm not mistaken, Monaca isn't exactly like Junko. She didn't set up her plan to fail here like Junko does, she just genuinely just had no idea Toko would change and that Shirokuma would try pull shenanigans. She basically set up an inescapable situation for Komaru that got interrupted by outside forces. So I don't think Monaca is really as big on despair as Junko despite trying to follow in her footsteps. She even says she overestimated herself in trying to be like Junko.
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Liffrea posted:Same. If you're enjoying "despair" or getting off on "despair" (which Junko and the Remnants of Despair were clearly shown to in DR1& DR2)...well then it's not really "despair" then is it? Junko is portrayed as being aware of the contradiction, which only makes her psychosis worse. Likewise, it's more the case that the Remnants are, much like the Warriors, worshipping Junko without being really conscious of the implications of that. But I've come to the conclusion that when dealing with Junko, it's probably best not to think of her as a character in the story, but rather as an element of a game. Why do these things happen? Because there wouldn't be a game otherwise.
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Psycho Knight posted:Why not? She deserves to die. Leaving her alive is just going to result in her trying all of this poo poo over again. What is wrong with all of you?  (and if you're not joking, I can also add murder to the skinner one)
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So, is there any dialogue or anything in the non-standard game over triggered by breaking the controller early?
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Personally, I've always thought that despair requires hope to exist. Without hope, despair becomes resolution. People have to have some kind of hope of an alternative outcome in order to feel despair.
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Carbon dioxide posted:So, is there any dialogue or anything in the non-standard game over triggered by breaking the controller early? Yes.
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Psycho Knight posted:Why not? She deserves to die. Leaving her alive is just going to result in her trying all of this poo poo over again. What is wrong with all of you? They are going to investigate. Which will reveal Towa's connection with Junko. And they will think that the surviving Adults are remnants cause they are about to be going around parading headless children.
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