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Sheen on sound? What the gently caress does that even mean?
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Jan 28, 2019 15:34
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Combat Pretzel posted:Sheen on sound? What the gently caress does that even mean? *allegedly*
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Jan 28, 2019 16:15
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Because it’s RA, I’m just gonna assume it’s all codewords for the different drugs taken before listening.
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Jan 28, 2019 16:22
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Combat Pretzel posted:Sheen on sound? What the gently caress does that even mean? It creates a veil, like a residue that colors the audio
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Jan 28, 2019 17:00
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They are taking visual characteristics of the metals and are trying to apply them to audio. They have such a thin understanding of science, it's all they can manage to describe. If I wanted to make up some bullshit about how different metals affect audio signals, I'd talk about molecular density and other chemistry bullshit. Not "sheen" because gold is shiny.
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Jan 28, 2019 18:49
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But gold is shiny.
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Jan 28, 2019 18:52
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polyester concept posted:They are taking visual characteristics of the metals and are trying to apply them to audio. They have such a thin understanding of science, it's all they can manage to describe. It’s also why black amplifiers sound dark, silver sound bright, and tubes sound warm. There’s a cable manufacturer that posts in a lot of the Facebook audio groups claiming that the only way to maximize a new system is to start with the cables. Like, before choosing speakers. His arguments include he statement that “virtually all the magazines agree that cables make a difference.” “Everyone says it does” doesn’t strike me as the best standard of proof.
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Jan 29, 2019 06:19
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TheMadMilkman posted:“Everyone says it does” doesn’t strike me as the best standard of proof. As has been stated before, all seriously moneyed audiophiles are retired engineers and engineering (in IRL life) is all about going with consensus as opposed to laws of physics or calculations.
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Jan 29, 2019 06:23
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I want to see that kind of engineering then.
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Jan 29, 2019 13:05
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Combat Pretzel posted:I want to see that kind of engineering then. It usually takes the form of a fireball.
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Jan 29, 2019 13:23
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TheMadMilkman posted:“Everyone says it does” doesn’t strike me as the best standard of proof. Is that like Fox News' "Some people say..."?
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Jan 29, 2019 13:33
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TheMadMilkman posted:
Everyone says sugarpills help with pain and a saline injection is better with pain. The placebo effect in action
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Jan 29, 2019 14:01
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Ha..found the article the guy was linking: https://positive-feedback.com/audio-discourse/building-a-new-system/
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Jan 31, 2019 07:44
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TheMadMilkman posted:Ha..found the article the guy was linking: quote:Are you going to put together a new High-End audio system? Start with the cables! Read on to find out why this can give you better sound and save you thousands of dollars, now and in the future. Completely devoid of self-interest! Such a philanthropist (also post/username combo)
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Jan 31, 2019 15:50
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Panty Saluter posted:Completely devoid of self-interest! Such a philanthropist (also post/username combo) And any audiophile favorite "sound signature", real or imagined from electronics couldn't possibly be caused by gross incompetence in the design *cough Schitt fanboys cough*
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Feb 1, 2019 06:21
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I really like in the comments where someone calls bullshit and talks about studio cables and such and the dude responds with complete utter nonsense. Edit: (sorry for the hosed up screenshot but its not worth redoing): 
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Feb 1, 2019 20:43
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I wonder how that guy would feel about a recording that was entirely digital. As in, every part was synthesized entirely on the computer. No conversion took place in the 'recording' process. No mics, no cables, no speakers.
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Feb 1, 2019 21:13
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He'd claim it would sound undeniably better if the computer was assembled with silver solder.
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Feb 1, 2019 21:15
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I wonder how that guy would feel about a recording that was entirely digital. There was some huge rant I read somewhere about how the entire point of recorded music is to capture the signature of live performance and that's such a bs statement. The only electronic album I see popping up in high end reviews with regularity is Random Access Memories which was lovingly crafted, probably over the course of many months, to have the exact sound signature of a 1970s disco album. You'd think these dudes would be into Warp Records stuff like Autechre or Squarepusher since it would push their system's limits. qirex fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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Feb 1, 2019 21:17
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qirex posted:Those guys don't listen to music like that. They don't "listen" to music at all. They play Yello on repeat, and maybe Dark Side of the Moon from time to time, but they're not actually listening - they're fiddling with their cable riser, rewinding, checking again, etc etc etc. Constantly tweaking and buying new stuff. They don't actually listen music.
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Feb 1, 2019 21:51
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qirex posted:The only electronic album I see popping up in high end reviews with regularity is Random Access Memories which was lovingly crafted, probably over the course of many months, to have the exact sound signature of a 1970s disco album. I gotta admit that album sounds really loving good though. But I like disco so what the gently caress do I know anyway. Even the vinyl sounds incredibly well done. I wouldn't be surprised if it was remastered just for that medium.
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Feb 1, 2019 23:25
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Even the vinyl sounds incredibly well done. I wouldn't be surprised if it was remastered just for that medium. Any well done vinyl pressing is specially mastered for the medium. There’s the physical movement of the stylus that has to be accounted for, as well as wobble, the inner side of the groove is going to have more force against it than the outer side, so the stereo balance has to be tweaked, certain frequencies will make the needle jump the groove, etc... Armadillo pressing used to have a great article on the idiosyncrasies of mastering for vinyl but I can’t find it at the moment.
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Feb 1, 2019 23:50
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Daft punk are giant nerds and I’d totally guess the vinyl mix was done specifically for the format
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Feb 1, 2019 23:56
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sorry for the reddit post but sometimes you gotta reach in the toilet to dig up some poo poo Idiot tries 'burning in' his amp and ruins his $1500 speakers. https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/aqtdil/too_much_power/ 
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Feb 15, 2019 19:50
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There's some golden audiophile ridiculing in that thread.Reddit posted:I've always thought breaking in is just a stupid audiophile snake oil ritual which practically never makes a difference that's both audible and measurable. Your friend's ritual made a difference which is not only audible and measurable but visible too. Reddit OP posted:He's had the LS50s for a while now, I believe he was wanting to break in a Parasound Pre-amp but he apparently made a mistake in the process. As far as break-in I have no idea if it really makes any difference myself but he seems to. All though I think he got more literal effect then even he wanted.
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Feb 15, 2019 20:02
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Absolute proof that burn-in actually works. Really, audiophiles everywhere should be praising that dude.
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Feb 15, 2019 20:19
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AVS post fails Poe’s law at an epic levelquote:better USB cables?
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Feb 16, 2019 08:43
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grack posted:Absolute proof that burn-in actually works. Really, audiophiles everywhere should be praising that dude. From the comments: quote:Well that proves me wrong.
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Feb 16, 2019 23:13
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synthetik posted:From the comments: I can't believe people would be sarcastic on the internet
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Feb 16, 2019 23:18
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Well, yeah. It was a joke and I thought it was funny.
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Feb 17, 2019 00:12
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The wailing and gnashing of teeth is still going on at the Spotify Community forums, because Spotify still hasn't made any announcements about lossless (or even "hi-res") streaming. The main thread has been going since 2014, and people are still extremely worked up about it. You would think all of the audiophiles who really think it matters would have moved to Tidal or Deezer or Quboz or whatever, but they just keep whining. I like to go there once in a while just to poke them a bit, see what happens. Usually it's the same old "you must be deaf if you don't hear a difference, it's night and day on my $10K rig" and "you must be listening on a cellphone speaker". You know, the usual stuff. I've tried convincing them that they're not going to get Spotify to tip their hand to their competitors, and that the bandwidth requirements are bad enough with ~200 million subs, it would increase significantly for lossless streaming, even with FLAC. But no, "muh lossless!" is only acceptable opinion. Best one out of this round was "you're just ignorant, bitrate is everything when it comes to sound quality", I just love it when audiophiles try to act smart, talking about how you need a "digital audio converter" to bypass your soundcard and get all the bits. It's kinda lame in the grand scheme of shakti stones and snake oil cables, but I do like how easy it is to rile them up. I'm not sure if they're just getting less creative, the outright personal attacks are much more lame this time around. Let's see if I catch a ban this time, I'll probably just drop Spotify completely if that happens, because meh. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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Feb 17, 2019 17:08
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Stay safe, brave poop-prodder. 
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Feb 17, 2019 17:16
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Do we have any snake farmers here on SA? (Is that even a thing?) Because I bet you could sell literal snake oil to audiophiles, probably as some kind of cable rub. They'd eat it up, laughing all the way.
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Feb 17, 2019 21:28
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Tidal Premium had a $3/3 months sale and I'm enjoying it but I'll probably switch to the cheaper plan since most of my music time is on my bedroom system at low volume or bluetooth headphones on my phone. Sounds really nice on my stereo though. I hate all the missing songs because of sampling bullshit but I own most of what I'm thinking of.
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Feb 19, 2019 18:53
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I just finished a month with Tidal and I agree it sounds really good, better than Play or Spotify I'd say
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Feb 20, 2019 16:32
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It's me, I'm the audiophile. I just ordered a fancy DAC. Well not that fancy, just $120 fancy (Topping D30). I could just use the stereo output from my monitor with HDMI/DisplayPort audio, but the Topping has a fancy aluminum case and toggle switches. Mostly because it turns out the DAC I was using is a piece of junk on anything but 44.1KHz, playing anything that's 48KHz results in distortion at -60dBFS and a raised noise floor (I did an RMAA measurement to confirm what I saw mentioned here). That wasn't really much of a problem until I started getting more music in 48KHz, since a surprising number of Bandcamp artists use that, and also Opus resamples everything to 48KHz. Youtube videos are 48KHz, but I didn't really notice it there, because meh, Youtube sound quality. I had SMPlayer set up to resample everything to 44.1KHz at high quality as a leftover from before Pulseaudio implemented alternate sample rates, so I didn't notice anything there. Honestly I didn't consciously notice an obvious lack in sound quality, but still ugh. I am deeply disappoointed in FiiO for making the D03K so poo poo at 48KHz, especially since it's marketed as a DAC for TVs without analog outputs. Shame on them. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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Feb 25, 2019 12:16
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Eh, the topping at least does everything you need at a not insane price. It does what you want for under $200, so I don't think it's a big deal
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Feb 25, 2019 17:20
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I know. It still feels silly, though.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:45
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Topping makes remarkably good audio gear, so don't feel audiophile-level bad. Doubly so if your old gear was audibly distorting.
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I was given endless poo poo in this thread for saying the exact same thing about my Fiio.
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