Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

slidebite posted:

I don't think I've ever heard of a heated lock before.

80s Audis had them, it was pretty cool. My Lincoln has light-up locks, with an incandescent bulb, so that might qualify if you wanted to wait around long enough. :v:

Here's a fascinating compilation of carbon fibre bicycle frame failures (the wheels are my favourite):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn29u7GoqPk

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jan 27, 2019

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Some of those composite failures are impressive. I work for an aerspace company the provides composite parts for aircraft.



See the little window underneath the nose of the aircraft? The frame holding the glass panels is composite. It's no thicker than a pencil but handles the aerodynamic forces at Mach. It's tremendously strong but still smaller than most of the failed components on any of the examples in that video. I guess they use cheaper materials.

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006

autism ZX spectrum posted:

The cap on my work truck has the shittiest locks I've ever seen. The entire thing ices up in fall and spring. Ice in every crevice of the lock, not just in the keyhole. It gets so cold the yellow gas torch gets too cold to use and it takes like 3 bottles of de-icer to even get the things to start moving. I used to use a lighter and heat up a key but that takes forever, so recently I've just started shooting butane into the keyhole and setting the loving thing on fire. Works a treat.

The Something Awful Forums › Discussion › Automotive Insanity › Horrible Mechanical Failures: I've just started shooting butane into the keyhole and setting the loving thing on fire. Works a treat.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

um excuse me posted:

See the little window underneath the nose of the aircraft? The frame holding the glass panels is composite. It's no thicker than a pencil but handles the aerodynamic forces at Mach. It's tremendously strong but still smaller than most of the failed components on any of the examples in that video. I guess they use cheaper materials.

Most of those are probably from crashes and hard impacts and stuff. Failures while "just riding along" is pretty rare. But there are a lot of cheap/knockoff carbon bike parts floating around too.

This guy cuts apart a lot of carbon bikes and parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCY9JUMYI54lLOHpb_zbIedQ

jamal fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jan 27, 2019

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Cayennes are giving Range Rovers a run for their money in the "hope you got :10bux:" category:

https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-955-957-2003-2010/898422-most-extreme-cayenne-turbo-cylinder-failure-yet.html

Great carnage porn here.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

dissss posted:

I can't even imagine what it was like growing up in Australia with 70s and 80s cars. It was bad enough here in New Zealand.

I have vivid memories of every brown vinyl surface (of which there were many) in whatever lovely un-airconditioned Vauxhall Chevette or Holden Gemini I had the misfortune if riding in as a child being hotter than the surface of the sun and it never got hotter than very low 30s here.

Still got the burns from the all metal belt buckles on HQ Holdens and Falcons of that era

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

nmfree posted:

The Something Awful Forums › Discussion › Automotive Insanity › Horrible Mechanical Failures: I've just started shooting butane into the keyhole and setting the loving thing on fire. Works a treat.

The boiling water you dump on the windshield should put out the butane fire in the locks.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

STR posted:

FWIW, my 99 (manual) Altima had what was labeled as a "backup light switch", but had enough wires to tell exactly what gear it was in. And the contacts from the transmission side did exactly that. There was definitely a neutral position, and the ECM was aware of what gear it was in. I have no loving clue what purpose this served though.
There's a reason I said "reliably sensing that you're not in gear". It's really easy to just put a few microswitches in to various areas of the shifter assembly or transmission that can tell if you're firmly in gear, but it's a lot harder to be sure it's actually in neutral and not partially engaged when the engine is off.

quote:

My 06 Saturn also knows if I've knocked it into neutral - if I do so with the cruise on, it immediately drops to idle and shuts off cruise.
Interesting. My '02 325i, '13 Soul, and '15 Fiesta all rev up a bit before they bail out of cruise if I pop them out of gear without clutching. My assumption is that they're just seeing the speed fall, increasing throttle, and then failing safe when they see a mismatch between speed and RPM. The Kia and the Fiesta both have shift indicator lights that I can fool by revving to the appropriate RPM for the speed in neutral as well.

MrOnBicycle posted:

Neutral sensors are a thing mostly in cars with Stop&Start I think.
As far as I've heard so far most manual cars with stop/start are triggered based on the clutch state combined with vehicle speed. If the clutch is released and the vehicle is stopped but the engine is still running, the car knows it's in neutral and likely waiting at a light, so it shuts off. It then restarts when the driver presses the clutch pedal again. No need for a neutral sensor, neutral can be inferred through other data. Not saying that some manufacturers didn't go do something more complicated, but all the systems I've seen discussed by auto journalists have been this way.

MonkeyNutZ
Dec 26, 2008

"A cave isn't gonna cut it, we're going to have to use Beebo"
My first generation Insight has a proper neutral sensor for stop-start: It shuts off below something like 15mph if you're coasting to a stop and shift to neutral and starts again if you put it in any gear from a stop or otherwise.

Not a mechanical failure though, not a single problem with it and it's 20 years old now.

MonkeyNutZ fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 28, 2019

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

wolrah posted:

As far as I've heard so far most manual cars with stop/start are triggered based on the clutch state combined with vehicle speed. If the clutch is released and the vehicle is stopped but the engine is still running, the car knows it's in neutral and likely waiting at a light, so it shuts off. It then restarts when the driver presses the clutch pedal again. No need for a neutral sensor, neutral can be inferred through other data. Not saying that some manufacturers didn't go do something more complicated, but all the systems I've seen discussed by auto journalists have been this way.

Could be. I've never been in a Start&Stop car (granted it's limited to a Volvo V70 and an Alfa Romeo Giulietta)that didn't require the lever to be in neutral and I know for a fact that my car with S&S has a lever neutral position sensor (because it's one of the things that commonly breaks).

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
The only way the car can be stationary with the clutch out is for it to be in neutral so I don't see it'd necessarily require a position indicator to make stop-start work.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



Seat Safety Switch posted:

Cayennes are giving Range Rovers a run for their money in the "hope you got :10bux:" category:

https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-955-957-2003-2010/898422-most-extreme-cayenne-turbo-cylinder-failure-yet.html

Great carnage porn here.

I was wondering what it would be like to own a 10 year old Cayenne Turbo, they're really cheap around here (< $10k) but I imagine you could face some incredible repair costs.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Godholio posted:

Until it's federally mandated, that's a non-starter. :v:

I want to hate that pun, but I just can't.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

MomJeans420 posted:

I was wondering what it would be like to own a 10 year old Cayenne Turbo, they're really cheap around here (< $10k) but I imagine you could face some incredible repair costs.

Yeah, pump 10K into it within the first year at least. All they had to do was try to keep up on repairs. In other words, maintain the drat thing with an indy.

fakeaccount
Jun 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

My old Nova had the mechanism freeze up once in the few years I had it. I got it freed up with some hot water but it refroze so drat fast it wouldn't latch when I closed the door :v:

Haha I once had to drive about 30 miles with the door latch frozen so that it wouldn't hold the door closed. This would have been a lot less interesting if the car hadn't been a manual.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


eddiewalker posted:

Times when I could use heated locks, my handles (and door gaps) are also covered in a solid layer of ice.

I once busted the drivers side door handle of a Corolla completely off trying to pull it through ice.

I got frostbite from the ignition cylinder last winter at close to -30. I had a triangle on my thumb and index finger in the shape of the ears on the mechanism :(

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

fakeaccount posted:

Haha I once had to drive about 30 miles with the door latch frozen so that it wouldn't hold the door closed. This would have been a lot less interesting if the car hadn't been a manual.

I had that happen once and about the same distance.

Yesterday I had a chuckle. Tried opening the rear door and it was frozen solid after a couple good tugs. So then I go to an appointment. After I'm done I back out of the parking spot and that door flies open. :v:

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



MomJeans420 posted:

I was wondering what it would be like to own a 10 year old Cayenne Turbo, they're really cheap around here (< $10k) but I imagine you could face some incredible repair costs.

Probably as bad as any other 'cheap' German car.

mischief
Jun 3, 2003

eddiewalker posted:

Times when I could use heated locks, my handles (and door gaps) are also covered in a solid layer of ice.

I once busted the drivers side door handle of a Corolla completely off trying to pull it through ice.

Yeah, the last time we had a car injury my wife ripped the handle off a Camry in the same way. It was a solid 1/2" or so of ice on most of the car.

buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer

BloodBag posted:

Probably as bad as any other 'cheap' German car.

a work colleague of mine used to have an '03 E65 7-series. He was the 2nd owner.

says the happiest day of his life was the day that hurricane Maria totalled it by dropping a tree on it

stgdz
Nov 3, 2006

158 grains of smiley powered justice
Man I love these post-op carnage tear down and diagnosis videos
https://youtu.be/fnSq0AH7NIY

H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord

stgdz posted:

Man I love these post-op carnage tear down and diagnosis videos
https://youtu.be/fnSq0AH7NIY

absolute proclick.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
Two pistons disappear and the cylinder head survived. :stare: That’s pretty incredible.

Edit: Well, one survived at least. The other is questionable.

funeral home DJ fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jan 31, 2019

T-Square
May 14, 2009

All of this cold weather chat is reminding me of the time when I was already running late for work and came out to my beater '94 Accord encased in ice from freezing rain, making me even more late. THEN, when I finally got the doors opened and the windows scraped, I remembered that I forgot to put gas in it, so I had to go in the opposite direction of work to the only nearby gas station at the time. Only to realize that the gas lid wouldn't pop open because it was iced over and once I got all of the ice chipped off, the latch mechanism was frozen too.

In a fit of frustration, I forgot that it was well below freezing, and steel-toe boots to plastic gas lid doors make for a shattered gas lid door :v:

Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

Queen Combat posted:

The old GM cars with the separate keys for the ignition and doors (Square/Round) had locks that did not like the cold. Every single one of them I've ever had, we had lock freezing issues when it even got a hair below 25 or so.

So true lol, only car I've had the locks freeze up on was my POS 88 Regal.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


T-Square posted:


In a fit of frustration, I forgot that it was well below freezing, and steel-toe boots to plastic gas lid doors make for a shattered gas lid door :v:

Got that fucker open, though.

stgdz
Nov 3, 2006

158 grains of smiley powered justice

Ripoff posted:

Two pistons disappear and the cylinder head survived. :stare: That’s pretty incredible.

Edit: Well, one survived at least. The other is questionable.

I thought the most incredible part was the moment where you could see the whole through both sides if the block and then later they realized it.


That and the engine bits flying out the exhaust lol

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



stgdz posted:

That and the engine bits flying out the exhaust lol

“Engine-rich exhaust” is something that doesn’t normally appear outside of the Spaceflight thread, but it’s always fun to imagine :getin:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

wolrah posted:

Interesting. My '02 325i, '13 Soul, and '15 Fiesta all rev up a bit before they bail out of cruise if I pop them out of gear without clutching. My assumption is that they're just seeing the speed fall, increasing throttle, and then failing safe when they see a mismatch between speed and RPM. The Kia and the Fiesta both have shift indicator lights that I can fool by revving to the appropriate RPM for the speed in neutral as well.

To add to this, I've owned two 2006 Saturn Ions. The first one would rev by about 500 RPM before shutting off cruise (once it saw speed dropping). This one just drops to idle immediately.

The difference is the old one was a top of the line one, which came standard with cruise. This one is a base model, with optional cruise (possibly dealer-added? it's a really weird car in general, it has pretty much every option except leather, fogs, automatic headlights, and automatic, but it's a base model... I've never seen a base with a sunroof before).

The BCM also behaves a bit different on the base model one. Both have a factory alarm, activated by the key fob, not by the door lock switches (very few base models had remote keyless entry; mine does though). If you opened the door with the key on my old one (the top of the line one), the horn would start giving short beeps immediately, then go into full on apeshit" mode after 15 seconds. This one is totally silent (though the security light on the cluster starts flashing) if you unlock it with the key; 15 seconds later it goes into apeshit mode and starts honking/flashing lights. Just inserting the key into the ignition and turning it to run was enough to disable it on both cars.

Also, unlike most cars with a factory alarm, there are no switches in the door/trunk key cylinders - the car has no idea if it's been unlocked with a key or by force, all it knows is "oh hey the door pin switch shows the door is open" or "oh hey the trunk light is on". It's pretty annoying when the keyfob battery dies (frequently, since I use the keyfob 30+ times a day).

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Feb 2, 2019

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


reminds me of the porch scene from joe dirt.

insta
Jan 28, 2009
Haha yeah I know what .. *squints* a car nutsack is doing on the ground haha

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

insta posted:

Haha yeah I know what .. *squints* a car nutsack is doing on the ground haha

lol

It's the outer skin of a muffler, which can get filled with petrol if your car is running poorly, which will then ignite and blow itself apart, leaving its dissected carcass on the ground.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
You're saying... petrol is stored in the balls?

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
Was changing out the gearbox and differential oil on my CR-V, when I noticed the front yokes were not at their proper 90° angle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IprSNJADgE4

This thing was ready to go. Even if it had, Honda had the good sense to spec loops for the front and rear segments, though my floorpan would have taken a hell of a beating.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

mobby_6kl posted:

You're saying... petrol is stored in the balls?
https://twitter.com/Pizza_Suplex/status/973593074055172098?s=09

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Memento posted:

lol

It's the outer skin of a muffler, which can get filled with petrol if your car is running poorly, which will then ignite and blow itself apart, leaving its dissected carcass on the ground.

Pretty sure that's the entire muffler chilling out in the snow.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Darchangel posted:

Pretty sure that's the entire muffler chilling out in the snow.

Well I assumed the baffles had been spread to the four winds when it grenaded

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

hmm what's the most likely reason for metal parts falling off a car in an area that sees decent amounts of snow

of course, a fuel air bomb

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
OK, I will admit at this point in time that I hadn't looked at that photo on anything except mobile and that it looked like a muffler that had butterfly-d itself open in two halves. Upon closer inspection, it is clearly an actual muffler that has just dropped the gently caress off due to rust.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply