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Skwirl posted:Yeah, it was a reference to the old DC book. Most people forget that initially Neil Gaiman's Sandman was explicitly part of the DC universe. going off of hazy memories from a decade ago, but I kinda forgot while reading it until some scene where Batman and Superman are briefly and incidentally talking to each other in The Dreaming or wherever
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Peanut Butler posted:going off of hazy memories from a decade ago, but I kinda forgot while reading it until some scene where Batman and Superman are briefly and incidentally talking to each other in The Dreaming or wherever One of the first issues had Martian Manhunter in a guest spot, and the supervillain Doctor Dee had a significant role in the first story arc. A whole bunch of the minor recurring characters were from classic DC comics as well. Cain, Abel and Destiny were 'hosts' in DC's old horror comics: 
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The bit near the end where Superman, Batman and the Martian Manhunter are talking together at Dream's wake. Fun little thing is, in the Dreaming, Superman appears as Clark Kent, while Batman is an even more demonic version of himself. Martian Manhunter is just himself. (though his culture's perception of Dream is a giant flaming skull) What makes Sandman great is that it weaves together characters from mythology and religion and history and literature and comic books and random people off the street without breaking a sweat and makes it all flow into each other so naturally. Makes total sense for the DC universe to be full of weird poo poo on the fringes as well as ordinary people going about their lives.
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yeah I'm not real well-versed in DC more aside from the stuff everyone knows through modern myth That comic is full of little subtleties, I oughta see if my library is stocked for a re-read
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The bit near the end where Superman, Batman and the Martian Manhunter are talking together at Dream's wake. Fun little thing is, in the Dreaming, Superman appears as Clark Kent, while Batman is an even more demonic version of himself. Martian Manhunter is just himself. (though his culture's perception of Dream is a giant flaming skull) The best part is their conversation. Superman: "You every have that dream where you're just an actor on a TV show about your life?" Batman: "Of course." Martian Manhunter: "I don't."
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Jan 29, 2019 20:56
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I'm choosing to believe that's a maga hat and Spidey did that deliberately.
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Beachcomber posted:I'm choosing to believe that's a maga hat and Spidey did that deliberately. just because potus is owned by russians doesn't make russians wear the hat
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Jan 29, 2019 21:00
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Yes, so no need to blow the cover, good job spider-man, etc etc etc
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Jan 29, 2019 21:03
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Fun little thing is, in the Dreaming, Superman appears as Clark Kent, while Batman is an even more demonic version of himself. That's pretty subtle for comic books, drat.
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Jan 29, 2019 21:53
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:One of the first issues had Martian Manhunter in a guest spot, and the supervillain Doctor Dee had a significant role in the first story arc. I forgot Doctor Destiny's real name was Dee. I am hearing this song in a completely different way now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nETFODVN6fE
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Randaconda posted:That's pretty subtle for comic books, drat. I've always felt that Gaimans at his best when forced to play well with others.
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Jan 29, 2019 22:11
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Brute Squad posted:I forgot Doctor Destiny's real name was Dee. I am hearing this song in a completely different way now. Been a long time since I spotted another MMBT fan in the wild.
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Brute Squad posted:I forgot Doctor Destiny's real name was Dee. I am hearing this song in a completely different way now. 90s Taaaang! Bosstones best Bosstones. I used to never cry when I would think about my father...
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CzarChasm posted:Been a long time since I spotted another MMBT fan in the wild. I swear just the other day I was singing...drinking, the other day. I said I love you, you turned away. But I'm a happy very happy very happy guy!!
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Randaconda posted:That's pretty subtle for comic books, drat. Subtlety is the name of the game in Sandman. If you don't pay attention you'll miss the part where Dream's captor's helper accidentally rolls his wheelchair over the magic circle, breaking it.
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Randaconda posted:That's pretty subtle for comic books, drat. 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The bit near the end where Superman, Batman and the Martian Manhunter are talking together at Dream's wake. Fun little thing is, in the Dreaming, Superman appears as Clark Kent, while Batman is an even more demonic version of himself. Martian Manhunter is just himself. (though his culture's perception of Dream is a giant flaming skull) 
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gently caress, I'm going to have to buy all of them and read them all over again, aren't I?
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Jan 30, 2019 06:07
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Don't forget lucifer. It's a great sidestory to sandman. Although Sandman is hard to beat I think it does a good job of being almost as good and is a perfect standalone.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:gently caress, I'm going to have to buy all of them and read them all over again, aren't I? It's okay, the hardbound, amazing print quality Ominibuses (there's 2!) are only about $100 USD each, though you can occasionally find them for cheaper...by $15 bucks... 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:gently caress, I'm going to have to buy all of them and read them all over again, aren't I? Once you have them all, you can use them to bludgeon a burglar.
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Beachcomber posted:Once you have them all, you can use them to bludgeon a burglar. And then wall him off in your basement behind copies of the complete calvin and hobbes.
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Jan 30, 2019 07:45
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For the love of God, Stupendous Man!
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Grraarrgghh posted:It's okay, the hardbound, amazing print quality Ominibuses (there's 2!) are only about $100 USD each, though you can occasionally find them for cheaper...by $15 bucks... Back before I had real bills to pay I picked up the Absolute Sandman set and it's a gorgeous set of books but entirely too goddamn bulky. Someday I'll get the set through Comixology and have it all digital
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snergle posted:Don't forget lucifer. Sadly my wife won't let me do that, as she constantly jizzes about how hot Tom Ellis is.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:One of the first issues had Martian Manhunter in a guest spot, and the supervillain Doctor Dee had a significant role in the first story arc. I'm pretty sure every old DC horror host besides Elvira is in Sandman. Lucien, Eve, and the 3 witches were all hosts too. Actually now that I type this I think Madame Xanadu was never in Sandman but she was in his Books of Magic sort of spin off. DC leaned HARD into horror comics in the 70s.
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I enjoyed rereading the series with this open on another monitor. It's great to see all the references I missed out on first time through.
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Eschatos posted:I enjoyed rereading the series with this open on another monitor. It's great to see all the references I missed out on first time through. My hottest possible Sandman take is that the "all myths are true" is an exclusionary tactic genre writers use to pretend what they're creating has literary aspirations. A work should be referentially self-contained, otherwise you admit that you're writing only for an audience who already knows your references or will choose to look them up mid-read. Especially if there's considerable differences between the portrayal and the generally understood version of that character! Which Gaiman is better about than his contemporaries, but it feels like his latest works have all been spinning his wheels without contributing anything new to the genre as a whole. It feels like he's just been rewriting Neverwhere, basically. The big reveal that fuckin, Thor and Osiris are best buds running a Tom Waits style diner isn't cool anymore, it's just expected. It's crossover fanfic for nerds too uptight to enjoy anything modern. Compared to someone like China Mieville, who manages to create worlds just as rich and dense as Gaiman, without having to lean on however many thousands of years of storytelling to do so.
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Who What Now posted:Sadly my wife won't let me do that, as she constantly jizzes about how hot Tom Ellis is. You'd think Hollywood would have scooped him up by now, they love handsome British dudes.
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gotta love that, no matter what show it is, eventually everything the BBC produces features a lanky fellow with curly brown hair solving Mysteries. edit- im actually banned from the country cuz people are convinced id get pulled into some kind of Palace Intrigue after a lordship ends up strangled in his own erotic fountain.
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CzarChasm posted:Been a long time since I spotted another MMBT fan in the wild. There's dozens of us. DOZENS!
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Eschatos posted:I enjoyed rereading the series with this open on another monitor. It's great to see all the references I missed out on first time through. I misread that as saying you enjoyed reading it while you had an open heart monitor and I was really stunned.
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Sandman is so good it made me cry at one point.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:pulled into some kind of Palace Intrigue after a lordship ends up strangled in his own erotic fountain. We call those 'mondays'.
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