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DrManiac posted:The switch is region free right? What I haven't investigated is how to access the Singapore eshop, assuming there even is one.
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Jan 28, 2019 22:08
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Rascyc posted:Yes. Unfortunately there isn't a Singapore eshop on Switch. You have to import a physical cart.
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Jan 28, 2019 22:20
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There isn't. We're basically all waiting for clarification from the publisher. Even if you can import the cartridge, there's the question of DLC, which possibly includes the preorder Gespenst.
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Jan 28, 2019 22:20
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Zore posted:Unfortunately there isn't a Singapore eshop on Switch. You have to import a physical cart. To clarify, there are other games with Asian English versions sold on the Japanese eShop, like Taiko Drum Master. So if it shows up anywhere, it's likely to be there.
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Jan 28, 2019 22:22
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't they said the Japanese eshop version will have Chinese/Korean/English available? I know they've done that with other recent Bandai Namco releases. Edit: Too slow
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Jan 28, 2019 22:23
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I hope so, I want this game much more on the Switch than the other platforms right now.
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Jan 28, 2019 22:26
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If I can buy this game once and have dual language that's honestly a huge sell for the Switch version for me.
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Jan 28, 2019 22:28
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As much as I would like to get it on PS4 to kinda round it out next to X and V, I do kind of want to get it on the Switch to send a message for them to keep on bringing stuff to it. How much of a hassle is it to set up a Japanese Eshop account?
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Jan 29, 2019 04:07
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If Shu Shirakawa "built" the Granzon, from the ground up, does that mean that technically, it counts as a real robot ?
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Jan 29, 2019 04:19
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Not sure what you mean? Supers are built too, and like the Granzon they tend to have a fancy power source.
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Jan 29, 2019 04:27
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DyGenGuar, Grungust, Ganduro, all totally Earth built, all supers.
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Jan 29, 2019 05:45
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Then I would have said that it has to do with reproducibility, in which reals can be carbon copied en masse such as tanks and jets. But then the Eva series count as a cross between that because they aren't technically built as much as birthed, plus their S2 reactors count as mysterious energy source, much like the GN drives in 00 Gundam, and less like hot burning justice spirit in G Gundam. It must come down to the pilot, if it's someone who is destined vs someone who was trained to use the robot. But that also doesn't make any sense!
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Jan 29, 2019 07:01
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The super/real distinction is one of those things it's best not to think about too hard. Nevertheless, hot take: the Granzon has always been a real robot.
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Ka0 posted:Then I would have said that it has to do with reproducibility, in which reals can be carbon copied en masse such as tanks and jets. But then the Eva series count as a cross between that because they aren't technically built as much as birthed, plus their S2 reactors count as mysterious energy source, much like the GN drives in 00 Gundam, and less like hot burning justice spirit in G Gundam. The Super/Real divide is less about the mecha and the pilot and more about the feel and tone of the thing. Tetsuya was trained to pilot the Great Mazinger and Banagher was destined for the Unicorn. Dai Guard has supply line issues, is owned by a corporation, has budget concerns and could be mass produced so by pretty much every metric is a real robot, but its in a super robot show. The God Gundam is a Gundam, which invented the real robot genre and is definitely a super. Evas are finicky prototypes and their fuel requirements are a plot point, but also they have a magical force field, so are they real or super? Trick question, they're Ultraman/kaiju and Hideaki Anno loves bureaucracy. There's a bunch that are super robot shows that have a bunch of real robot elements and vice versa. Don't think too hard about it. Whatever your gut says will normally get it.
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Jan 29, 2019 07:45
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Granzon is a super because you upgrade its armour instead of evasion.
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EthanSteele posted:
Which, when you think about it, is a very super robot way to figure out the distinction.
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Jan 29, 2019 07:53
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Ka0 posted:Then I would have said that it has to do with reproducibility, in which reals can be carbon copied en masse such as tanks and jets. But then the Eva series count as a cross between that because they aren't technically built as much as birthed, plus their S2 reactors count as mysterious energy source, much like the GN drives in 00 Gundam, and less like hot burning justice spirit in G Gundam. Quick, someone post that SRW 4-panel comic where the Gundam and super robot crew argue whether Shinji counts as being a real or super robot pilot.
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Jan 29, 2019 08:11
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Are the Walker Machines from Xabungle real robots because they run on gasoline engines, or are they super robots because they run on gasoline engines?
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Jan 29, 2019 08:16
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A "super robot" is a robot which is also a super hero, such as Tekkaman Blade.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Are the Walker Machines from Xabungle real robots because they run on gasoline engines, or are they super robots because they run on gasoline engines? Xabungle is a boy, if that helps.
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Mercury Crusader posted:Are the Walker Machines from Xabungle real robots because they run on gasoline engines, or are they super robots because they run on gasoline engines? Speaking of Xabungle, has there ever been a scene in SRW where Gato fires the GP02's nuke only for the Walker Gallier to catch it and toss it back to his stupid face?
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amigolupus posted:Speaking of Xabungle, has there ever been a scene in SRW where Gato fires the GP02's nuke only for the Walker Gallier to catch it and toss it back to his stupid face? No I don't believe so. But that's what they should have done in Alpha Gaiden, too bad Gato wasn't in that game. Tribladeofchaos fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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Jan 29, 2019 08:48
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I'm still not clear on whether the GP02's bazooka actually fires a rocket or whether some nuclear reaction happens inside it and it puts out a beam.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I'm still not clear on whether the GP02's bazooka actually fires a rocket or whether some nuclear reaction happens inside it and it puts out a beam. I've always figured it to be a Casaba Howitzer, albeit one that's probably a lot flashier than how it would work in reality
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drrockso20 posted:I've always figured it to be a Casaba Howitzer, albeit one that's probably a lot flashier than how it would work in reality According to specs, it's just a rocket launcher with a nuclear payload. However, the anime makes it look more like a Casaba Howitzer or a bomb-pumped laser.
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Jan 29, 2019 10:46
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I looked up a Casaba howitzer and I got pointed to project Orion. I knew the concept but I had no idea about that name. Project Orion was so loving awesome. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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Jan 29, 2019 10:49
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I love thinking about this topic. The Neo Zeong with it's ability to destroy weaponry and launch people into plot-expository magical carpet rides, the Zeorymer which was not built to save humanity at all, the lines being blurred all over is a fun thing to noodle about.
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On the super/real debate, wasn't the SoulSaber built as a prototype of a mass-producable Super Robot?
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My personal definition of supers vs reals is whether armor or mobility is prioritized when it comes to base stats/upgrades. Meant to take hits? Super. Meant to dodge em? Real. Can do a bit of both? Hybrid.
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Nono is a human sized super robot and it's awesome. When are we going to see her again?
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Infinity Gaia posted:My personal definition of supers vs reals is whether armor or mobility is prioritized when it comes to base stats/upgrades. Meant to take hits? Super. Meant to dodge em? Real. Can do a bit of both? Hybrid. Gundam Rose 
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General Revil posted:According to specs, it's just a rocket launcher with a nuclear payload. However, the anime makes it look more like a Casaba Howitzer or a bomb-pumped laser. One thing I learned long ago is to never trust the written specs for anything in the Gundam franchise unless it's a video game
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For my money, super/real has less to do with the abilities of the robot and more to do with it's role in the story. Mazinger Z and the RX-78 Gundam are powered by magic science engines, protected by magic science armor, but also are ordinary enough that they can both be mass produced and improved upon. Despite these similarities, Mazinger Z is a super robot because it's fundamentally a luchador that fights for justice against evil, while the Gundam is a real robot because it's a soldier/fighter jet that fights for a human government against another human government. The makes the regular Granzon more of a real robot, at least in the OG games, as it's primary role is as a mobile artillery piece that fights on behalf of Bian Zoldark. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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Jan 29, 2019 16:47
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I can think of a couple of (game mechanics) super style pilots with real robots like Gai from Nadesico or Kallen from Code Geass but is the reverse ever true? The closest I can think of is Kazuma from W and that's mostly because he upgrades from a real to a super.
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Jan 29, 2019 17:16
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Touga from Gravion absolutely thinks he's a Gundam ace in Z. If I remember right there are two specific subpilots pick up all the slack. (He gets Courage eventually... I think?)
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Jan 29, 2019 17:18
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free my post from the Time Prison
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Schwarzwald posted:For my money, super/real has less to do with the abilities of the robot and more to do with it's role in the story. Mazinger Z and the RX-78 Gundam are powered by magic science engines, protected by magic science armor, but also are ordinary enough that they can both be mass produced and improved upon. Despite these similarities, Mazinger Z is a super robot because it's fundamentally a luchador that fights for justice against evil, while the Gundam is a real robot because it's a soldier/fighter jet that fights for a human government against another human government. This is where I stand a Real Robot is equipment while a Super Robot is either a Hero or a Villain, something that represents and fights for good or evil.
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WrightOfWay posted:I can think of a couple of (game mechanics) super style pilots with real robots like Gai from Nadesico or Kallen from Code Geass but is the reverse ever true? The closest I can think of is Kazuma from W and that's mostly because he upgrades from a real to a super. A particularly sassy part of me is going with Ledo, only because Chamber hideously outstrips and is so completely alien to the Gargantia's tech level he might as well be a Super. Objectively, though, it's Lamia in the Angelg.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Nono is a human sized super robot and it's awesome. When are we going to see her again? When we also get KOS-MOS in the same game hopefully.
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