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everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




The Good Isekai and VRMMO Thread for people that Like Isekai and .hack

Hey, please don't hate on the genre in general here, or share your rant for why isekai is terrible and bad.
You can be critical of series! That's more than fine! But like you have a ln thread, a fantasy manga thread, a chat thread, a seasonal anime thread, the specific threads for whatever the currently airing isekai anime is, and an official unofficial offsite discord to do that all in. We've all read it and heard it and maybe even said it countless times before.
This is not the thread for slave harem fantasy isekai, sexist revenge fantasy isekai, or rape fantasy isekai. Those can go in the other threads.

This is the good thread for good isekai by people that like isekai. also vrmmo series because vrmmo series are cool. talk about .hack and sao or whatnot. what ive seen of sao was alright and the author is apparently woke now so that's fair game.
reincarnation in the same world is basically isekai so that counts too if you want it to.
time travel back in time might not but if you wanna post it go ahead.
let's not be pedantic here.

the non-exhaustive outdated bees list of good isekai/vrmmo manga with one-sentence summaries bc im bad those:

https://mangadex.org/title/17720/ko...ou-no-tashinami
Reincarnated as villianess in otome game.

https://mangadex.org/title/23197/sl...ni-nattemashita
Reincarnated witch spends 300 years killing slimes every day. Ends up overpowered.

https://mangadex.org/title/21177/goblin-is-very-strong
Goblin is very strong.

https://mangadex.org/title/22637/ot...-shite-shimatta
Otome villianess is determined to avoid a bad end. Reverse harem of every character, boy and girl.

https://mangadex.org/title/24651/saihate-no-paladin
Kid reincarnated into a family of undead.

https://mangadex.org/title/14810/only-sense-online
vrmmo genderbend series.

https://mangadex.org/title/20982/ya...i-ni-aisaremasu
Yankee is transported to another world.

https://mangadex.org/title/27433/is...motenashi-gohan
Sister of summoned priestess dragged along to other world. Lots of good cooking.

https://mangadex.org/title/24206/bu...i-suki-to-iitai
Dude reincarnated as joke anti-hero in dating sim.

https://mangadex.org/title/12956/hero-union-bbs
Isekai heros post to the same BBS board.

https://mangadex.org/title/759/drifters
Drifters. Historical figures end up summoned in fantasy world. This one got an anime.

https://mangadex.org/title/12432/or...isekai-hourouki
Really lazy dude summoned as OP magician. Kind of just fucks around instead of being a power fantasy.


https://mangadex.org/title/14408/ko...ke-ga-shitteiru
Transported to Kusoge game.

https://mangadex.org/title/23631/se...-wa-bannou-desu
Girl summoned to another world. Tossed aside in favor of other girl summoned at same time.

https://mangadex.org/title/24244/kuma-kuma-kuma-bear
MMO addict summoned into her favorite MMO, in a bear outfit.

https://mangadex.org/title/21946/th...e-healing-magic
Summoned healer gets really buff.

https://mangadex.org/title/22500/ma...ai-no-insatsujo
Summoned otaku tries to create magic comiket.

https://mangadex.org/title/19454/from-maid-to-mother
Girl reincarnated as a maid. Adopts child with wizard.

https://mangadex.org/title/15176/pochi-kuro
Girl summoned into world of monsters, cannot speak with them. From monster perspective.

https://mangadex.org/title/17709/kumo-desu-ga-nani-ka
Girl reincarnated as spider. Becomes OP.

https://mangadex.org/title/23013/th...agon-king-s-lap
Girl summoned alongside super popular girl. Turns out to be beloved by fairies.

https://mangadex.org/title/15553/te...slime-datta-ken
Reincarnated as a slime. Creates a kingdom.

https://mangadex.org/title/20338/te...ara-ken-deshita
Reincarnated as a sword. Used by adorable beast girl.

https://mangadex.org/title/26359/ji...kansatsu-kiroku
Girl reincarnated as villianess in otome game. Determined to remain the villianess.

https://mangadex.org/title/21055/to...ai-hourou-meshi
Cooking isekai. Guy is summoned, has ability to summon food from our world through online catalog. Feeds giant wolf.

https://mangadex.org/title/14960/ch...i-hans-no-junan
Poor gently caress ends up having to care for a bunch of summoned japanese kids.

https://mangadex.org/title/26079/he...ous-linguistics
linguist goes to monster continent (look a new continent is a new world)

https://mangadex.org/title/18677/ni...to-kemono-no-ou
girl brought to monster kingdom as sacrifice, ends up as queen. beauty and beast. (see above)

https://mangadex.org/title/20348/the-king-s-avatar
chinese esports. might not be vr but close enough we're not being pedantic.

https://mangadex.org/title/26504/boukensha-ni-naritai-to-miyako-ni-deteitta-musume-ga-s-rank-ni-natteta
adventurer really wants to go back to her hometown to see her adopted dad. good dadmanga. black hair black eyed girl appears under mysterious circumstancies so it counts as isekai.

https://mangadex.org/title/23229/the-scholar-s-reincarnation
'evil' martial artist reincarnates and decides to dedicate his life to become a better person

https://mangadex.org/title/33547/the-dungeon-master
reincarnated in a world where your body is temporary housing for your soul. work your way up the food chain.

https://mangadex.org/title/29329/itai-no-wa-iya-nanode-bougyo-ryoku-ni-kyokufuri-shitai-to-omoimasu
girl plays vrmmo and puts all her skills into def so as not to get hurt.

don't talk about shield hero or goblin slayer here!!!!

don't argue about whether something is or is not isekai I said don't be pedantic

everythingWasBees posted:


I made a lovely flowchart using the shittiest flowchart app in the play store that could maybe help some of you figure out whether or not to post a series in this thread.


everythingWasBees fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Apr 28, 2020

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Elephant Parade
Jan 20, 2018

let me tell you about the terrible new manga that just came out, shield slayer

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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

when i was a kid i thought dot hack was boring.

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
Did that Restaurant to Another World show from a little while back come from a manga? It was a pretty good show and I'd probably read it

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Hi I like Bakarina and Rimuru-sama they’re good dorks

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Knorth posted:

Did that Restaurant to Another World show from a little while back come from a manga? It was a pretty good show and I'd probably read it

i believe it did but i don't think i've read it

there is also:
https://mangadex.org/title/18302/isekai-izakaya-nobu
nobu, which also got a anime

and something that you would like if you're not already reading:
https://mangadex.org/title/30646/isekai-ekisha-no-kissaten
The Coffee Shop in a Different World Station, which is man and catwife cooking for train passengers.

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
Yeah I remember watching a few episodes of the Nobu short, I'll have to check out that manga too. Also, nice I'll check that other one sometime too

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

While I'm not sure how good of an adaptation the Overlord Manga is, I'm enjoying the spin-off manga https://mangadex.org/title/31795/overlord-official-comic-a-la-carte The original LNs are really good too.

Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

Knorth posted:

Did that Restaurant to Another World show from a little while back come from a manga? It was a pretty good show and I'd probably read it

I knew there was a manga, but it started as an LN, then manga, then anime. Crunchyroll has the translated manga as well as the anime.

super-redguy
Jan 24, 2019
Will watching El-Hazard again after a decade leave me with disappointment? My memories of it have faded and I have no idea how well it's aged.

Dryzen
Jul 23, 2011

.hack is cool

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Dryzen posted:

.hack is cool

:yeah:

Cephas
May 11, 2009

Humanity's real enemy is me!
Hya hya foowah!
what did the sao auther do that was woke? genuinely curious

I really liked the gungale online spin-off and recovery of an mmo junkie. gungale in particular was a blast. the differences between the characters' real life selves and their mmo personas was pretty great across the board in a way that was funny and endearing. and the action scenes managed to make the low stakes work in their favor by letting the characters have a kind of breezy approach to things like limb loss. the big finale fight in gun gale is somehow one of the more memorable fight scenes in recent memory for me because of how unexpected and hardcore it is.

LLENN is incredibly good and is a true doom-murder head


Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.
another cool manga is Handyman Saitou in Another World
just an average handyman gets transported to a fantasy world and joins an adventuring group as sort of a rogue. mainly disarming traps. Occasionally, the manga will focus on a completely separate character, my favorite is Dwarf mage with dog.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




Dryzen posted:

.hack is cool

finish the lp dryzen

Captain Cappy
Aug 7, 2008

Fine, I admit it! 95% of the reason I like .hack//sign is Mimiru. Can I go now?

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

this one would be generic as hell but the friendly little spirits in every panel make it amazing. the mythril lead pipe is a good touch too

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022
can vouch for Faraway Paladin, Handyman Saitou, and S-Ranked Daughter, those are probably my top favorites that I'm currently reading.

I wasn't expecting Sacrifice Princess to count for this thread but thinking about it I guess it would. It's really good, and also licensed so you can buy the official release & support it.

I was reading From Maid to Mother and ended up getting kinda bored with it. It wasn't bad, and I might catch up on it since I see it's gotten some new chapters. Kinda same with Black Healer I liked the setup and characters but eventually got bored with the plot, but they're worth checking out.

A while back I also read the first volume or so of the one where the healer gets really buff and it was funny but after I read that volume the gimmick had kinda worn out and I just wasn't interested enough in the plot to keep going with it. That ends up being my main issue with isekai in general, I like the initial setups (of the ones that aren't rear end) but the plot rarely has enough meat to hold my interest long-term. it helps if there's a hot dad or something to keep my attention though

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime
is re:zero cool or whack these days

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018
What was the isekai where some office people die and when selecting their jobs the old boss lady tries to get her old underling to work for her again, but he declines?

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
are there isekais about people and creatures from fantasy worlds reincarnating in ours

Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

:siren: :siren: :siren:
AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
:siren: :siren: :siren:
Escaflowne is the only good isekai, because of the robots.

Captain Cappy
Aug 7, 2008

RottenK posted:

are there isekais about people and creatures from fantasy worlds reincarnating in ours

The Devil is a Part-timer

LibrarianCroaker
Mar 30, 2010

doomrider7 posted:

What was the isekai where some office people die and when selecting their jobs the old boss lady tries to get her old underling to work for her again, but he declines?

Sekai Saikyou no Kouei: Meikyuukoku no Shinjin Tansakusha?


RottenK posted:

are there isekais about people and creatures from fantasy worlds reincarnating in ours

Re:Creators :colbert:

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
Re:Creators had a lot of problems but i still watched the whole thing

though i completely forgot about it until now

shark teeth girl with lying based superpower was cool and it had a surprisingly good and entertaining recap episode

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Enjoying Pochi Kuro, thanks for the rec

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

Yes that's the one. Thank You.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Here are a couple Isekais that aren't mentioned in the OP.

https://lhtranslation.net/gaikotsu-kishi-sama-tadaima-isekai-e-odekake-chuu/
MC finds himself summoned to the fantasy world of his MMO. His character was wearing a real-money skeleton costume so now he's a skeleton. He decides to RP and try not to stand out, and fails.

https://lhtranslation.net/yasei-no-last-boss-ga-arawareta/
The top player of an MMO gets reincarnated as his max-level character, has to figure out what's going on and why. Time to get the band* back together.
*The band is all his tamed NPCs.

https://mangadex.org/title/22017/manuke-na-fps-player-ga-isekai-e-ochita-baai
VRMMO fps player falls through a hole in a map and gets transported to another world, where he proceeds to murder monsters with guns.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Captain Cappy posted:

The Devil is a Part-timer
Which is outstanding and the anime is really, really good. The stuff that happens immediately after the anime stuff ends is my favorite of the entire series too. It's great fun, very funny, has good action and great characters. I really wish the anime would get a second season by the same team to cover that stuff, but it'll never happen. :(

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Oh also I didn't see this in the big list in the op

Captain Invictus posted:

Duke's daughter is good economic and nobility stuff, bakarina is silly and hilarious fluff.

Another good one is my ideal lazy life, where a guy is summoned by an incredibly hot queen from another world to be her husband and give her a child. The cover even makes it look like there's a bunch of silly harem shenanigans, and the very first page is sexy fun times!!!

Except it almost immediately switches to the in-depth politicking of this world where the queen is the first female ruler of her country in a basically entirely patriarchal world, and he has to learn how to properly act around nobles so as not to undermine his wife's image in the political world, while also learning customs and stuff. It eventually gets into the problems of illigetimate bloodlines, negotiations with other countries, etc. Oh, and it's totally monogamous and they're an adorable couple. It's a pretty good fakeout from the initial impression.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

khy posted:

Here are a couple Isekais that aren't mentioned in the OP.

https://lhtranslation.net/gaikotsu-kishi-sama-tadaima-isekai-e-odekake-chuu/
MC finds himself summoned to the fantasy world of his MMO. His character was wearing a real-money skeleton costume so now he's a skeleton. He decides to RP and try not to stand out, and fails.

https://lhtranslation.net/yasei-no-last-boss-ga-arawareta/
The top player of an MMO gets reincarnated as his max-level character, has to figure out what's going on and why. Time to get the band* back together.
*The band is all his tamed NPCs.

https://mangadex.org/title/22017/manuke-na-fps-player-ga-isekai-e-ochita-baai
VRMMO fps player falls through a hole in a map and gets transported to another world, where he proceeds to murder monsters with guns.

The first one handles topics like rape and slavery exactly like a normal person should. You kill the fuckers no question asked when you see them do it. He also joins an anti-slavery group intent on bringing the system down and killing the people doing it and freeing the slaves. The first chapter does have an attempted rape and some fairly graphic violence.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
It's good to know that the skeleton man knows what to do with rapists and slavers but i kind of assumed that anything that is recommended ITT either doesn't have that poo poo or handles it in a non awful way.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

RottenK posted:

It's good to know that the skeleton man knows what to do with rapists and slavers but i kind of assumed that anything that is recommended ITT either doesn't have that poo poo or handles it in a non awful way.

Some repeates, but the vast majority of these are sit back and relax types of isekai. And yeah there's some sexual violence and slavery, but Skull Paladin knows what to do with them.

Bakarina - You've likely heard of this one. Girl dies and reincarnates as villaness from Otome game and is desperately trying to avoid her death flags with comical success.

Accomplishments of a Duke's Daughter - OL dies and reincarnates as villaness of otome game and political stuff happens and intrigue.

Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Now I Maxed Out - Exactly what it says. Really nice and fluffy. Have not Read.

Maid to Mother - Eldest Sister dies and reincarnates as maid who becomes care giver for little girl in care of Arch Mage.

Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki - Sid Meiers Civ, the manga it sounds like. Have not read.

Isekai Kenkokuki - Reincarnates as abandoned child in forest guarded by Griffin. Starts making a town with other children in similar situation.

Isekai de Cafe - OL dies and opens up a cafe. Have not Read.

Wanwan Monogatari - Guy dies from overwork and wants to reincarnate as pampered rich persons dog. Reincarnates as rich family dog with cute owner...Except he's basically Ranga.

Isekai Izakaya "Nobu" - Older "Uncle" type of guy finds door to other world and opens up a Japanese style bar and restaurant. Have not Read.

Isekai Yakkyoku - Eldest brother who was a pharmacist dies and reincarnates into rich family. Uses his previous knowledge to help people in new world.

Knights and Magic - Mechs and Magic. Have not Read.

World Teacher - Isekaishiki Kyouiku Agent - Spec Ops guy dies. Reincarnates as heir to rich family. Parents gone and is raised by maids and takes in beastkin as foster brother and sister whom he tutors in magic when they go to the academy.

Kono Yuusha ga Ore TUEEE Kuse ni Shinchou Sugiru - In spite of being OP, the hero is very cautious...That's basically the title and the motif. It's very funny.

I can't vouche for ALL of them, but I have read most at least enough to rec them as nice relaxing fare with the unread ones looking very promising and having some degree of recommendability based on cursory view or recs from here.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

doomrider7 posted:

The first one handles topics like rape and slavery exactly like a normal person should. You kill the fuckers no question asked when you see them do it. He also joins an anti-slavery group intent on bringing the system down and killing the people doing it and freeing the slaves. The first chapter does have an attempted rape and some fairly graphic violence.

A lot of Isekais fall into this weird 'It's OK to have a slave in this other universe so best to just do as the romans do' sort of thing. I'm not a fan. I can understand they want to show Japanese people as being compassionate and even in these alternate worlds where slavery is A-OK they treat slaves super well, but then the big twist is almost always "the slave ends up lusting after the master because she's treated so well". So yeah, Skeleton Knight is avoids that and is satisfying as hell when Arc goes on a mass-murder rampage against slavers and rapists.

doomrider7 posted:

Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki - Sid Meiers Civ, the manga it sounds like. Have not read.
It's OK, has lots of the usual 'Why is the MC the only person smart enough to figure out some of this poo poo' moments though. It doesn't have a huge amount of chapters yet so it might get dumb or creepy later on.

khy fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Feb 2, 2019

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
That's a very good kind of rampage, I approve of sir Arc's priorities.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
I'm going to read about skeleton man, should I go for the translated novel or the manga

khy
Aug 15, 2005

RottenK posted:

I'm going to read about skeleton man, should I go for the translated novel or the manga

Personally I usually start with the manga, and if I end up liking it then I check out the novels. But that's just me.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
thanks for the advice i'll do that

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I just read the first chapter of skeltal paladin manga and hahahaha ok this MC loving owns

Like I love that his first impulse when waking up in the MMO is to gently caress around with all his movement abilities and see which ones still Just Work, then when he realizes that teleport-dashing still works he's just like :hellyeah:

And then he just fuckin' turbo-dunks a bunch of rapists, good first chapter

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doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018
I had read it a long time ago and wasn't sure if to share. Some of the later chapters have him wear the goofiest mask(I think tiki) with a hulk dude just going all out. It's every bit as awesome as it sounds.

Edit: Thoughts on Konjiki no Wordmaster. It's got the grumpy kind of misanthropic male lead, but he's actually a decent guy and actually HAS reasons for his loner misanthropic attitude(foster care is rarely ever all sunshine and roses). He's OP as hell, but he has to work for his wins by being really creative. Read a long while ago and have yet to catch up on it.

doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Feb 2, 2019

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