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I say put John Fawcett on Canadian-Horror-Rushmore.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:13
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Franchescanado posted:It’s a flawed premise for a debate, though. I started thinking about King’s influence, and went down that rabbit hole. You can't even really just look at adaptations either. Both of their work is so deeply ingrained in our culture that there's a ton of horror that has been heavily influenced by it without being a direct adaptation. Much like Lovecraft.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:13
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Canada is Villenueve, Cronenberg, Bob Clark and Natali.
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Basebf555 posted:You can't even really just look at adaptations either. Both of their work is so deeply ingrained in our culture that there's a ton of horror that has been heavily influenced by it without being a direct adaptation. Much like Lovecraft. It’s especially complicated since King’s biggest influences are Lovecraft, Jackson, and Poe.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:19
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Stephen King's A-list writing career has exceeded Poe's lifetime and achieved much greater cultural penetration.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:49
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King housed way more booze and blow than Poe could have imagined. He is the winner on this alone.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:52
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Jedit posted:Stephen King's A-list writing career has exceeded Poe's lifetime and achieved much greater cultural penetration. Only thing that remains to be seen with King is how much longevity the work itself has, compared to Poe. Because Poe has been dead for 170 years now, and is still an extremely well known name in literature. His influence is still very strong. The fact that his actual writing career was shorter than King's isn't as important as what happens in the decades after that imo.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:53
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Which how much poo poo King's name has crept into with films and how many are loved films, I'm sure King's name will be around for decades after his time.
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Feb 6, 2019 19:56
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TheKingslayer posted:King housed way more booze and blow than Poe could have imagined. He is the winner on this alone. He also didn't elope with his kid cousin or whatever, whatever his other faults.
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Basebf555 posted:Only thing that remains to be seen with King is how much longevity the work itself has, compared to Poe. Because Poe has been dead for 170 years now, and is still an extremely well known name in literature. His influence is still very strong. The fact that his actual writing career was shorter than King's isn't as important as what happens in the decades after that imo. Yeah I’ll be convinced of that when 7th graders are required read Nightmares and Dreamscapes for school, writing 5 paragraph essays about what that toilet ghost story tells us about twentieth century business culture or something.
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Feb 6, 2019 20:02
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TheKingslayer posted:King housed way more booze and blow than Poe could have imagined. He is the winner on this alone. Poe drank himself to death didn’t he?
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Drunkboxer posted:Poe drank himself to death didn’t he? I think the jury is still out on that. Last time I checked they didn't even have a death certificate for him.
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A real Rushmore of American horror would, per the actual Rushmore, have to have two 'founding fathers' that everyone just kinda of accepts as being on the money but nobody actually gives a poo poo about, some way out there crank whose bullishness automatically endears him to our hosed up culture of dominance but is really disturbing in retrospect, and finally someone that gets virtually universal admiration for the populism of their character and the relative quality of what they actually did. So, basically, it'd be: Thomas Edison, Tod Browning, John Landis, and Wes Craven It's dire, but it's honest.
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TheKingslayer posted:King housed way more booze and blow than Poe could have imagined. He is the winner on this alone. Drunkboxer posted:Poe drank himself to death didn’t he? lol pissing contesting these horror authors' poser exploits when Mary Shelley lost her virginity in an affairs she arranged to be held at her mother's grave and then carried a literal piece of her dead husband's heart in a locket forever.
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Basebf555 posted:Only thing that remains to be seen with King is how much longevity the work itself has, compared to Poe. Because Poe has been dead for 170 years now, and is still an extremely well known name in literature. His influence is still very strong. The fact that his actual writing career was shorter than King's isn't as important as what happens in the decades after that imo. King’s arguably the most significant name in literature of at least the last thirty years, and beyond the fact that he’s already been established as a pop culture figure in his own lifetime, the sheer volume of his work and breadth of his influence on other creators will almost certainly assure his relevancy remains long after his death.
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Look into your hearts and you'll see that whoever directed Saw 2 is on American Rushmore whether we like it or not Edit: they take Roosevelt's place obv
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Apparently the new Blu Ray of Miike's Audition is heatquote:Brand new 2K restoration of original vault elements
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Neo Rasa posted:lol pissing contesting these horror authors' poser exploits when Mary Shelley lost her virginity in an affairs she arranged to be held at her mother's grave and then carried a literal piece of her dead husband's heart in a locket forever. Speaking of which, I did a double feature of the new Mary Shelley this weekend along with Ken Russell's Gothic. It's interesting to see what details both movies focus on (they're both about the Shelleys' stay at Lord Byron's and the events that led up to the publishing of the Vampyre and Frankenstein). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C_xrvI0xQ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-WGaZaojFc
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Neo Rasa posted:lol pissing contesting these horror authors' poser exploits when Mary Shelley lost her virginity in an affairs she arranged to be held at her mother's grave and then carried a literal piece of her dead husband's heart in a locket forever. Lady was a freak. I respect that.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Also:
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Hollismason posted:Roger Corman , John Carpenter , Wes Craven , George Romero. No HGL?
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MacheteZombie posted:No HGL? If you're gonna have Corman then no need for HGL imo. Corman is everything HGL was just better and more prolific.
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Basebf555 posted:If you're gonna have Corman then no need for HGL imo. Corman is everything HGL was just better and more prolific. Hmmm I'm not sure i can cosign on this monuments construction.
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MacheteZombie posted:Hmmm I'm not sure i can cosign on this monuments construction. Guess I'm gonna put the Horror thread into partial shutdown until we figure this out.
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TheKingslayer posted:King housed way more booze and blow than Poe could have imagined. He is the winner on this alone. He also did so much cocaine he forgot he wrote Cujo. He only remembered he wrote it when his literary agents brought up selling the movie rights.
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K. Waste posted:A real Rushmore of American horror would, per the actual Rushmore, have to have two 'founding fathers' that everyone just kinda of accepts as being on the money but nobody actually gives a poo poo about, some way out there crank whose bullishness automatically endears him to our hosed up culture of dominance but is really disturbing in retrospect, and finally someone that gets virtually universal admiration for the populism of their character and the relative quality of what they actually did. This is why the Four Pillars Of Heaven are a better organizing principle than Rushmore. Kobashi: Craven Misawa: Carpenter Kawada: Romero Taue: Lloyd Kaufman
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I haven't seen more than a handful of HGL's films, but I'm pretty confident in saying he never made anything nearly as good as Corman's best. I saw Blood Feast this past year and wasn't really that entertained by it, Joe Bob's anecdotes about Hershel were much better than the actual movie.
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Blood Feast is one of those things that's fun to watch for it's historical precedent and how it evolved the gore aspect of the genre, but not much beyond that. It's a nice one-and-done. I got to see it in theaters as part of a film festival, so it was fun in that venue.
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I don't know if Lloyd Kaufman should be on the horror monument.
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Hollismason posted:I don't know if Lloyd Kaufman should be on the horror monument. He should have some kind of monument
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Hollismason posted:I don't know if Lloyd Kaufman should be on the horror monument. He's hiding inside of the monument, probably in his underwear
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A monument to Lloyd Kaufman was just be a eternal burning dumpster
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Hollismason posted:A monument to Lloyd Kaufman was just be a eternal burning dumpster I too have been to jersey
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Iron Crowned posted:He should have some kind of monument Name a sewage outflow in his honour.
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I watched The Lift on Shudder last night, which is the story of how an elevator repairman's dedication to his job ends up destroying his marriage. There's a subplot about an elevator with a brain made of oozing microchips that wants to kill Dutch people.
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Liberal Idiot posted:I watched The Lift on Shudder last night, which is the story of how an elevator repairman's dedication to his job ends up destroying his marriage. There's a subplot about an elevator with a brain made of oozing microchips that wants to kill Dutch people. So, the elevator was the hero of the film?
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Franchescanado posted:Blood Feast is one of those things that's fun to watch for it's historical precedent and how it evolved the gore aspect of the genre, but not much beyond that. It's a nice one-and-done. I got to see it in theaters as part of a film festival, so it was fun in that venue.
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I just finished sitting through Don't Leave Home on Shudder. Overall it's pretty decent and it was nice to see a modern gothic horror not handled all draggy. *coughPrettyThingthatlivesinthehousecough* There's no gore in it just a lot of atmosphere and tension.
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Hollismason posted:I don't know if Lloyd Kaufman should be on the horror monument. Lloyd Kaufman, John Waters, Larry Cohen, and Kenneth Anger for Mt. Crustmore.
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