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Taikuri posted:I don't think neither Zeke or Levi are dead. You don't end a chapter on "The Merciful Man Takes an Eldian's Life Away..." if neither dies.
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Schwarzwald posted:You don't end a chapter on "The Merciful Man Takes an Eldian's Life Away..." if neither dies. Counterpoint: you absolutely do that.
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Feb 8, 2019 03:21
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Yeah, I'm gonna need to just... wait... until the next chapter.  Just because I was trying to be prepared for poo poo to go down on Levi doesn't mean I wanted it to happen  i cannot see his right arm in that last panel
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Feb 8, 2019 03:31
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Schwarzwald posted:You don't end a chapter on "The Merciful Man Takes an Eldian's Life Away..." if neither dies. That sentence is summation of chapter. Zeke wants to stop new Eldian babies to be born, thus they don't need to suffer world's cruelty, because that is the only mercy he can show them. Or then you are completely right and I will drop whole series next chapter now that 2 best girls are dead and I don't want to read about a world without them
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Feb 8, 2019 05:22
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JahRoo posted:Counterpoint: you absolutely do that. it does happen a lot in manga tbh
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Feb 8, 2019 05:24
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Manatee Cannon posted:it does happen a lot in manga tbh 
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Feb 8, 2019 05:49
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So after all that, what the hell does Eren want to do. Because there’s no way he believes in Zeke’s plan, it goes against everything he’s said and done so far
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Feb 8, 2019 09:55
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so somehow I managed to fall three issues behind. What a read! All of my previous ideas have disintegrated and I am on the WTF is even happening wagon now
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Feb 8, 2019 15:49
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Asuron posted:So after all that, what the hell does Eren want to do. Because there’s no way he believes in Zeke’s plan, it goes against everything he’s said and done so far I'm not sure Eren knows Zeke's actual plan. Actually, let me rephrase that: Zeke almost certainly thinks Eren doesn't know it. Whether he's right should become apparent very soon, gut feeling is telling me he's not.
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Feb 8, 2019 15:54
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Asuron posted:So after all that, what the hell does Eren want to do. Because there’s no way he believes in Zeke’s plan, it goes against everything he’s said and done so far Eren's true intentions and the shape of the Paradise Invasion plans are the last remaining x-factors in this glorious clusterfuck, yes.
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Feb 8, 2019 16:09
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The reveal on the full extent of the titan powers takes things from "will Eren or won't Eren do the rumbling plan" to "what the gently caress could Eren possible have planned given the ludicrous extend of his potential."
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Feb 8, 2019 17:13
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Right now, my best guess is Eren will use the founding titan to make newborn Eldians un-titanizable, freeing them from Ymir's gift/curse. That means the next generation will be safe(r), while the current generation uses the threat of the rumbling to keep the rest of the world at bay until they die out. Zeke doesn't know this, and thinks Eren will sterilize Eldians instead.
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Feb 8, 2019 17:32
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In It For The Tank posted:Right now, my best guess is Eren will use the founding titan to make newborn Eldians un-titanizable, freeing them from Ymir's gift/curse. That means the next generation will be safe(r), while the current generation uses the threat of the rumbling to keep the rest of the world at bay until they die out. So the Anti-Paradise Coalition just blockades the island for like two decades to prevent economic and technical advancement, then roll in and slaughter everyone and take the oil once the nuke buttons die. AKA what North Korea specifically developed ICBM nukes to prevent from happening to them. If that's seriously Eren's plan, he's even dumber than I thought.
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Feb 8, 2019 17:45
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In It For The Tank posted:Right now, my best guess is Eren will use the founding titan to make newborn Eldians un-titanizable, freeing them from Ymir's gift/curse. That means the next generation will be safe(r), while the current generation uses the threat of the rumbling to keep the rest of the world at bay until they die out. How is he going to do that though without either Zeke or Historia or another of the royal bloodline, which are essential to be able to tap into the coordinate power? Looking into my crystal ball, I see Eren eating all other titans and then handing the newly unified titan over to Historia. But who knows. I also expect we will see the wall titans come alive at some point of course. That will be a grand battle scene.
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Feb 8, 2019 17:53
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Bilirubin posted:How is he going to do that though without either Zeke or Historia or another of the royal bloodline, which are essential to be able to tap into the coordinate power? Looking into my crystal ball, I see Eren eating all other titans and then handing the newly unified titan over to Historia. But who knows. If by chance Zeke is actually blown to poo poo, that option is flat off the table.
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Feb 8, 2019 18:01
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Kerning Chameleon posted:So the Anti-Paradise Coalition just blockades the island for like two decades to prevent economic and technical advancement, then roll in and slaughter everyone and take the oil once the nuke buttons die. The idea would be in the meantime (which would certainly be longer than two decades, it would be closer to a century as the shifter powers are passed around the last of the aging "final" generation) they develop technology using the ~special resources~ (iceburst stones + big loving trees + crystal powers) inherent to Paradis to catch up with/surpass the rest of the world, along with diplomatic and trade relations with countries like Not!Japan, to give them the potential to join the world as an equal player and stave off a retributory invasion. Bilirubin posted:How is he going to do that though without either Zeke or Historia or another of the royal bloodline, which are essential to be able to tap into the coordinate power? I believe Historia is carrying Eren's kid (Eren will reveal this as a deliberate "gently caress you" to Zeke's antinatal beliefs) and that Historia will agree to help Eren to give her child a better future. In It For The Tank fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Feb 8, 2019 |
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Feb 8, 2019 18:04
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In It For The Tank posted:Right now, my best guess is Eren will use the founding titan to make newborn Eldians un-titanizable, freeing them from Ymir's gift/curse. That means the next generation will be safe(r), while the current generation uses the threat of the rumbling to keep the rest of the world at bay until they die out. I think he can alter Eldians who are alive too, not just newborns. This is my guess too. It also fits with saving Mikasa and Armin. By removing paths he gives them back their free will.
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In It For The Tank posted:Right now, my best guess is Eren will use the founding titan to make newborn Eldians un-titanizable, freeing them from Ymir's gift/curse. That means the next generation will be safe(r), while the current generation uses the threat of the rumbling to keep the rest of the world at bay until they die out. yea that was the first thing I thought of when it came up in the chapter. was surprised zeke didn't even stop to consider the idea
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Feb 8, 2019 20:10
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I hold out hope eren is going to commit global genocide because that would be a cool and unexpected ending
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Feb 8, 2019 23:57
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea that was the first thing I thought of when it came up in the chapter. was surprised zeke didn't even stop to consider the idea It's probably crosses his mind, but he's seen how Eldians are treated just for the legacy of Titans, so he probably thinks that would only exacerbate the issue, taking away their only means of power. He just wants to be done with it.
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Feb 9, 2019 00:31
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Jose posted:I hold out hope eren is going to commit global genocide because that would be a cool and unexpected ending After all the hype the last dozen chapters we need atleast 1 wall of colossals rumbled.
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Feb 9, 2019 01:50
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Step 1: Wake the wall titans and trigger global apocalypse Step 2: Freeze every Eldian with hardening Step 3: To you, 2000 years from now...
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Squidster posted:Step 1: Wake the wall titans and trigger global apocalypse And the 4th wall gets created. All of this has happened before and will happen again. edit: this only works if they only transform normal eldians and not the wall titans. didn't think this through. Lamebot fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Feb 9, 2019 |
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Feb 9, 2019 02:16
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Squidster posted:Step 1: Wake the wall titans and trigger global apocalypse
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Feb 9, 2019 03:54
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Eren will actually make everyone titanizable into one of the seven titans they want to be and then the rumbling will happen but all the eldians transform and will band together in an EPIC cataclysmic battle!
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Feb 9, 2019 08:09
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RatHat posted:Huh, is the Tragedy of Lago what's in this ending for the anime? I guess Isayama must've told the anime guys some future stuff. So, when you consider that the titan folk can see both forward and backward through their paths, technically Xaver was watching.
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Feb 10, 2019 11:25
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I loving love it how we get taken back and shown another angle of this event in this flashblack. I love all how the story is being told through not so much action but through just conversations. I also like seeing all the future warriors as children. On ending ideas being passed around, have you guys seen the last panel? The author showed a sketch of the last panel awhile ago I recently found in a news article. I'll spoiler it just in chase but it doesn't show you that much.  The words in the picture are "You are free". Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 13:01
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I find it pretty amazingly coincidental that we got the story of Zeke, a guy who would sue his own parents for giving birth to him, at the same time a guy in real life is suing his parents for giving birth to him. I could be stretching but it's the vibe I got.
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Feb 10, 2019 21:15
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Schwarzwald posted:You don't end a chapter on "The Merciful Man Takes an Eldian's Life Away..." if neither dies. This might be a matter of a translator working with a slightly ambiguous Japanese phrase since the Mangastream translation has it read as "The Merciful Man ...will take away Eldian lives..."
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Feb 14, 2019 23:07
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 This make a shitload more sense now
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Jose posted:I hold out hope eren is going to commit global genocide because that would be a cool and unexpected ending to you 2000 years from now you don't exist cause i just killed everyone, you're welcome
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Feb 15, 2019 06:03
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The manga started with kids like Armin pushed into war early and making decisions like super brilliant adults and now it's adults acting like dumb children I guess we've gone full circle?
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Feb 15, 2019 17:10
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This chapter raises the possibility that Eren plans to unleash the Rumbling and save the Eldians by turning them all into Titans at the same time. Then, once the global slate has been cleaned, he'll simply turn them back into humans. Of course, this means like the Ackermans might get slaughtered in meantime, but Eren's made it explicitly clear he thinks they're subhuman mongrels unworthy of life anyway, so he may just see that as a nice bonus.
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Feb 16, 2019 00:24
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I don’t know how to tell you this but the story is not ending in global genocide. No matter how much you wish for it, no matter how many times you show excitement at the idea of it, it is simply not happening.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:28
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Asuron posted:I don’t know how to tell you this but the story is not ending in global genocide. No matter how much you wish for it, no matter how many times you show excitement at the idea of it, it is simply not happening. I was just speculating on the possible motivations and goals of the characters as presented in the story. Which currently center around nuclear blackmail and brinkmanship. Just because it obviously won't happen doesn't mean there is no threat of it happening in-universe. And if you say that means there really is no threat, that means nothing that happens in the story until the final chapter actually matters because obviously god (the author) won't let the villains truly win, so we're obviously all wasting our time fretting over Levi and speculating on character motivations and plans and such and this topic should just be gassed right now.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:25
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Plutonis posted:
Need a refresher. Which chapter is this from?
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Turn A posted:Need a refresher. Which chapter is this from? 83
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Feb 16, 2019 15:44
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I feel like this guy is maybe missing the point of the series a bit but I can’t remember enough of the plot and specifics to point out why. Now the meme that AoT is anti Semitic is being shared all over twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/1094821561050324993
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I remember when the Jews ruled the world with their titan forms. Edit: The main thing they're ignoring so they can do their hot take is that 95% of the cast is Eldian ("Jewish") and also that nowhere do they suggest that what has happened to the main characters has been a good thing. Captain Cappy fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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I have a Jewish roommate who really likes the series and a Jewish friend who works on the anime. The blatant Nazi imagery isn't lost on them, because you'd have to be an idiot to not see it. But you'd have to be an even bigger idiot to think that the manga's thesis is "subjugating vague Jewish-analogue is good". But more than likely these folks haven't read it, because that's been the case when this has come up in the past.
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