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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

TheKingslayer posted:

I feel like Saw would be great edited down to all the cool and memorable parts. Like, the whole series down into one highlight reel.

CarnageCount on youtube

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Detective Hoffman is better than Jigsaw imo

But yea, the best slasher design in recent memory is still Ghostface, there really haven't been any other iconic ones since that are on the same level. Saw was popular but not Scream popular.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Mel Mudkiper posted:

CarnageCount on youtube

I like Dead Meat more. I think the host does a better job of summarizing the movies he covers.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Fart City posted:

I like Dead Meat more. I think the host does a better job of summarizing the movies he covers.

I'll probably end up checking these out. Horror thread delivers again.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Fart City posted:

I like Dead Meat more. I think the host does a better job of summarizing the movies he covers.

Yeah but carnage count does the sonic one up song every 100 kills

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

The youtube comments on the Greta trailer I posted think it’s too spoileriffic, how say you?

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Basebf555 posted:

But yea, the best slasher design in recent memory is still Ghostface, there really haven't been any other iconic ones since that are on the same level. Saw was popular but not Scream popular.

I wonder what the count is for Scream rip-offs compared to Saw rip-offs.

Both of those movies had a huge wave of imitators.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

ruddiger posted:

I wonder what the count is for Scream rip-offs compared to Saw rip-offs.

Both of those movies had a huge wave of imitators.

I feel like Scream had way more concentrated imitators. I Know What You Did Last Summer, Urban Legend, Valentine, Halloween H20, etc.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

ruddiger posted:

I wonder what the count is for Scream rip-offs compared to Saw rip-offs.

Both of those movies had a huge wave of imitators.

Depends. Would you gonna consider every movie in the "torture porn" era a Saw rip-off? Because I'm not really sure that's accurate. And with Scream, some people would probably give it credit for the idea of putting young popular 90's actors in a slasher movie and lump all the others that do that together as rip-offs, but that's probably not fair either. The meta aspect of Scream is what made it feel fresh and interesting, and while there were still imitators I'd call it more of a general horror boom that happened as a result of Screams overall popularity, not specific attempts to reproduce that same exact formula.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

I'd even say Halloween H20 tried to get on that wave as far as the look and presentation.

Almost Blue
Apr 18, 2018
H20 even cites Scream within the film by having a scene where somebody watches Scream 2 on TV, which means that Halloween is somehow also a film series within the world of H20.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

TheKingslayer posted:

I feel like Saw would be great edited down to all the cool and memorable parts. Like, the whole series down into one highlight reel.

So like Faces of Death?

Edit: I kinda want to do a best of (practical) gore compilation and record it onto a VHS for shits and giggles

Almost Blue posted:

H20 even cites Scream within the film by having a scene where somebody watches Scream 2 on TV, which means that Halloween is somehow also a film series within the world of H20.

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Coffee And Pie fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Feb 15, 2019

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

H20 has a scene where characters watch Scream 2, which is a sequel to a film where characters watch Halloween on video, which later produced an out-of-canon sequel in Season Of The Witch where Tom Atkins sees a commercial for Halloween on tv at a bar.

So Scream takes place in the same universe where a bunch of kids died on Halloween when their masks turned their heads into bugs and snakes.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Fart City posted:

H20 has a scene where characters watch Scream 2, which is a sequel to a film where characters watch Halloween on video, which later produced an out-of-canon sequel in Season Of The Witch where Tom Atkins sees a commercial for Halloween on tv at a bar.

So Scream takes place in the same universe where a bunch of kids died on Halloween when their masks turned their heads into bugs and snakes.

This rules.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

s.i.r.e. posted:

So I just got back from Happy Death Day 2U and I hate to say it chaps... but it sucks. It also isn't a horror film, it's mostly a comedy with heavy sci-fi elements and a couple horror scenes.
...
, but what doesn't make any sense is in the first film Tree solves everything by killing the murderer (like how Groundhog Day magically ends when he tries being the best person he can be) but this film shows that fixing the time loop is only possible by using the science experiment... so the first film's ending doesn't make sense now.
...
The music also feels like it was for a MCU film and not something that has horror roots. The strangest part is the director and composer are the same from the first film. I enjoyed the film but I went in expecting something completely different and it failed on all fronts.

I see where you're coming from. But I thought that she didn't fix it so much as simply didn't die. Which would suggest that if she lived until she was 80 and had a heart attack she'd wake back up in 2017. Unless I forgot that it had a Groundhog Day "until you sleep" clause.

Also, I thought they were doing Robert Zemeckis music, which made sense given how BTTF it explicitly got.

But you're absolutely right that it's a sci-fi comedy genre shift. Even she forgets about the killer midway though. I enjoyed it like you did once I understood the genre but after the opening, I was hoping it would enter a very trippy realm of many versions of many characters. Whatever mechanism allowed for two of the same person was immediately forgotten.

Edit: was anyone else angry when she said she'd died 11 times? I figured it had to be 10x that much in the first one.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Feb 15, 2019

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
Anyone know where I can find Neverknock? It doesn't appear to be available anywhere, which is a little annoying.

Stryder
Oct 3, 2002

...! posted:

Anyone know where I can find Neverknock? It doesn't appear to be available anywhere, which is a little annoying.

Is that someone who only uses doorbells?

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

...! posted:

Anyone know where I can find Neverknock? It doesn't appear to be available anywhere, which is a little annoying.

It’s on Syfy’s streaming service if you have access to that.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Here's a weird thing I noticed while rewatching Jason Goes To Hell on Netflix: during the opening sequence (which still rules), when the FBI is lighting Jason up he actually like, screams. He reacts to being shot and blown up with sounds of pain. That's like the only time he does that post-Jason Lives resurrection, right?

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
Feel free to disregard this post.

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
He's made growls and animalistic sounds in the movies after Jason Lives. In part 7 when his mask comes off and I think also when he was set on fire.

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Feb 16, 2019

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

He talks in all the movies, ya goofs.

He says "ch ch ch, ah ah ah"

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
Um it's canonically ki ki ki ma ma ma.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Neo Rasa posted:

Just want to reiterate that this show absolutely rules. It looks great, has cool characters and it's really well written too as a total evisceration of the economic distance between classes and how much people exploit that. Zombie stuff as social commentary isn't a new thing but the way the show plays with and makes noticeable the differing scopes of the various towns and palaces and cities folks travel to and weaves that into its themes about social decay and such is really cool. But even without any of that it's just cool as hell and wicked funny at times too.

Thirding this, Kingdom owns. Looking forward to the next season, whenever that happens.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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Fart City posted:

H20 has a scene where characters watch Scream 2, which is a sequel to a film where characters watch Halloween on video, which later produced an out-of-canon sequel in Season Of The Witch where Tom Atkins sees a commercial for Halloween on tv at a bar.

So Scream takes place in the same universe where a bunch of kids died on Halloween when their masks turned their heads into bugs and snakes.


Hrmm I don't think this checks out. I think you have it backwards. Season of Witch has a advertisement for the fictional movie Halloween and Scream the characters also watch Halloween.


Scream - Halloween is a movie

Season of the Witch - Halloween is a movie

H20 - Scream 2 is a movie which means that Halloween is a movie.

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Feb 16, 2019

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Basebf555 posted:

Kinda wish Maika Monroe would be getting the lead roles instead of the best friend who gets killed halfway through roles but whatever.

Well, there's The Guest.


Ape Agitator posted:

I see where you're coming from. But I thought that she didn't fix it so much as simply didn't die. Which would suggest that if she lived until she was 80 and had a heart attack she'd wake back up in 2017. Unless I forgot that it had a Groundhog Day "until you sleep" clause.

Also, I thought they were doing Robert Zemeckis music, which made sense given how BTTF it explicitly got.

But you're absolutely right that it's a sci-fi comedy genre shift. Even she forgets about the killer midway though. I enjoyed it like you did once I understood the genre but after the opening, I was hoping it would enter a very trippy realm of many versions of many characters. Whatever mechanism allowed for two of the same person was immediately forgotten.

Edit: was anyone else angry when she said she'd died 11 times? I figured it had to be 10x that much in the first one.

You know, I want to say she does fall asleep but thinking about it, she might not have. So it might be that as long as she doesn't die she doesn't go back.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Hollismason posted:

Hrmm I don't think this checks out. I think you have it backwards. Season of Witch has a advertisement for the fictional movie Halloween and Scream the characters also watch a fictionalized version of Halloween.


Scream - Halloween is a movie

Season of the Witch - Halloween is a movie

H20 - Scream 2 is a movie which means that Halloween is a movie.

So okay, woof, let's break this down further.

In H20 Scream 2 is a movie. In Scream, Halloween is a movie.

That movie-in-a-movie features the same shots, characters, and filmmaking shown in the movie shown on the commercial in the bar in Season Of The Witch.

So if H20 is "true," that would mean that on some level Scream and Season Of The Witch have to exist on a base reality where Halloween is a fictional movie. Perhaps "based on a true story."

Ergo, we exist in the Scream/Season Of The Witch universe.

Ergo ergo we exist in a universe where Halloween is based on a true story.

It is now canon that all horror movies are documentaries.

Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Feb 16, 2019

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Nah because Season of the Witch is completely unrelated to the Halloween series and it only says that Halloween was a movie. This is the same problem people come up with when they try and tie every TV series together. Season of the Witch and Scream are both two seperate realities where Halloween is fictional not the same fictional reality where Halloween is fictional.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

let me have this.

I wanna live in a world where Halloweentown Stores are run by druids.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Okay fine.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Thank you.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



s.i.r.e. posted:

Well, there's The Guest.


You know, I want to say she does fall asleep but thinking about it, she might not have. So it might be that as long as she doesn't die she doesn't go back.

She falls asleep but does in her sleep due to poison.

Harriet Carker
Jun 2, 2009

I’m sure I’m super late to the party but I watched The Autopsy of Jane Doe tonight and it was a very effective and unsettling little horror story. I now understand why this director was tapped for Scary Stories. It’s on Netflix and totally worth a watch!

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

dantheman650 posted:

I’m sure I’m super late to the party but I watched The Autopsy of Jane Doe tonight and it was a very effective and unsettling little horror story. I now understand why this director was tapped for Scary Stories. It’s on Netflix and totally worth a watch!

Definitely. Super fun flick, and an easy recommend.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
Killed any interest in that autopsy possession movie that was released in theaters a few months ago. We that any good? Jane Doe was so good I didn't think I'd be able to watch it without constant comparison.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
Any suggestions for good horror movie podcasts? I’ve been listening to The Horror Show but they have some dumb takes on modern horror movies (too much tactical realism for me) which is too bad because I like the hosts.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


back on Saw chat: Saw 1 is legit an interesting stylised movie that does a unique sort of puzzle-box movie. the nu-metal sounds are a bit much but you get
Cary Elwes and Danny Glover chewin big scenery. it's worth seeing just cuz it launched a somewhat insane franchise.

Saw 2, 3 and 4 are all pretttttty forgettable but honestly Saw 5 and 6 are so bonkers and funny and ridiculous, while committing so hard to the template and canon developed over the series, that i really have a soft spot for them. Hoffman is the superior Jigsaw. the traps keep turning into The Incredible Machine of murder.

Going Underground
Jul 7, 2006

Coffee And Pie posted:

Any suggestions for good horror movie podcasts? I’ve been listening to The Horror Show but they have some dumb takes on modern horror movies (too much tactical realism for me) which is too bad because I like the hosts.

It's not 100% horror, but How Did This Get Made? has episodes for a number of horror films - they're a pretty fun listen.

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





There was only one Saw movie. If you just believe that hard enough it's one of the best horror movies of all time.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Coffee And Pie posted:

Any suggestions for good horror movie podcasts? I’ve been listening to The Horror Show but they have some dumb takes on modern horror movies (too much tactical realism for me) which is too bad because I like the hosts.

Nameless Cults is the only horror-specific podcast I listen to. It's good.

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Dissapointed Owl
Jan 30, 2008

You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

Untrustable posted:

There was only one Saw movie. If you just believe that hard enough it's one of the best horror movies of all time.

Which one tho

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