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I can only imagine they just had a warehouse full of the Blu drives they used on the OG 4, and the margins to change to a 4k just weren't there.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Yeah, UHD came out before the PS4 Pro did but Sony didn't swap the Blu-Ray drive out for a UHD one. But then the Xbox One S and the Xbox One X both have UHD drives I have an Xbox One S and if it has a UHD drive that's news to me.
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Feb 18, 2019 05:42
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CPL593H posted:I have an Xbox One S and if it has a UHD drive that's news to me. Wait my ps4 is just a dumb bludrive... drat 
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Feb 18, 2019 05:49
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CPL593H posted:I have an Xbox One S and if it has a UHD drive that's news to me.
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FilthyImp posted:About the level of savvy we's expect from an XboneS owner, yes Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart... Rageaholic Monkey posted:It sure does! I was considering getting one for a while because it's a fairly inexpensive UHD player, plus I could play a few Xbox exclusives on it too. My TV is 720p and I'm not impressed by the current UHD catalog so I guess it's irrelevant.
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i'm normally an early adopter but i love my plasma TV and will give it up only after it dies so UHD is not at the top of my to-do list
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Feb 18, 2019 06:39
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I just realized I can finally get Predator because the UHD is from a new transfer and doesn't have the wax people.
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Feb 18, 2019 06:56
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CPL593H posted:My TV is 720p Bruh.
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Feb 18, 2019 07:21
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On a 720p TV everyone is a wax person.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Bruh. Some people are poor. Monday_ posted:On a 720p TV everyone is a wax person. I don't find that to be the case at least with what I have and even with this TV the difference between blu-ray and DVD is quite noticeable. There's also not a world of difference between 720p and 1080p if the TV is smaller than 50 inches and mine is 42. CPL593H fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Feb 18, 2019 |
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Feb 18, 2019 08:17
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CPL593H posted:Some people are poor. 
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Feb 18, 2019 09:03
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I'm poor too so I have no room to talk, but you can get a 40-50 inch 4K TV for the same price as an Xbox One S nowadays I can't really afford that and I really don't care if the end result is that I can watch Deadpool 2 or some bullshit in Ultra High Def.
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Feb 18, 2019 09:06
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CPL593H posted:I don't find that to be the case at least with what I have and even with this TV the difference between blu-ray and DVD is quite noticeable. There's also not a world of difference between 720p and 1080p if the TV is smaller than 50 inches and mine is 42. Yeah, I had a 720p 42" for many years and for that size the resolution is fine. In fact, there were blind tests back then (this would be around 2007) where people would prefer the 720 over full HD TVs, because stuff like black levels and contrast is much more important than resolution. There's a reason why the original 720p Pioneer Kuro won tons of awards. I recently visited a friend who just purchased a 4K QLED TV, and I was not the least impressed. HDR just looks unnatural because the TV has to crank up the dynamic contrast, and the extra resolution was pointless at the distance we were sitting from the TV. I think my six year old 1080 plasma delivers are much nicer image. PS. If you're a fan of Big Lebowski you should get the UHD of that one. It's a massive improvement over the lovely old BD - at any resolution.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:It sure does! I was considering getting one for a while because it's a fairly inexpensive UHD player, plus I could play a few Xbox exclusives on it too. a few what now
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TheScott2K posted:a few what now Gears of War and Halo
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I'm really impressed with the upscale capabilities of my Samsung UHD player. I popped in one of the Deep Space Nine dvds and it looked fantastic upscaled to 2160p, much better than I remember the Netflix stream looking.
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Feb 18, 2019 15:01
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CPL593H posted:I can't really afford that and I really don't care if the end result is that I can watch Deadpool 2 or some bullshit in Ultra High Def. That's fine for you but the thread is about physical media so most posters you'll talk to in here do care, at least somewhat. It's true though that a huge part of it is your living room set up. If you're sitting all the way across the room from a 40-50 inch screen, yea a lot of these things being discussed aren't going to be nearly as noticeable. Not preferring HDR is weird to me though, I love those strong saturated colors.
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Basebf555 posted:It's true though that a huge part of it is your living room set up. If you're sitting all the way across the room from a 40-50 inch screen, yea a lot of these things being discussed aren't going to be nearly as noticeable. Not preferring HDR is weird to me though, I love those strong saturated colors. I have a 65" 4k TV these days, and the resolution jump between 1080 and 4k isn't that big of a deal in most instances. Where the UHDs shine is definitely the HDR, the presentation is just too damned good on it. Now that I have a UHD, I have a few double dips that are on DVD, and I want to do some comparisons, but  and it's time I could be using for something else.
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Basebf555 posted:That's fine for you but the thread is about physical media so most posters you'll talk to in here do care, at least somewhat. I think it’s pretty great for people with the money to be able to keep all their hardware up to date. Don’t bend “not enough money to justify” into some kind of touted preference. Maybe I shouldn’t speak for someone else, I just know if my ten year old 1080p samsung finally dies like it’s threatening to do, I’m not going out and buying the replacement anytime soon, but really I swear I still like movies during that time.
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Iron Crowned posted:I have a 65" 4k TV these days, and the resolution jump between 1080 and 4k isn't that big of a deal in most instances. Where the UHDs shine is definitely the HDR, the presentation is just too damned good on it. The difference in resolution for me shows up most strongly with actor faces. The increased resolution really shows every nuance under any lighting conditions, whereas regular blu ray has a tendency to get pretty murky the lower the lighting conditions are. I'd love to see a Last of the Mohicans UHD for that reason, because the existing blu ray doesn't quite handle the nighttime scenes the way I'd like and like 50% of the movie takes place at night with all kinds of interesting shadows playing off the actors faces.
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Basebf555 posted:Not preferring HDR is weird to me though, I love those strong saturated colors. But i don't have a UHD player yet so... We have a pair of the LG B8 OLEDs at work and I just want to sit and twiddle with them and run quality settings like nobody's business.
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Basebf555 posted:That's fine for you but the thread is about physical media so most posters you'll talk to in here do care, at least somewhat. The point I was making is that the selection of movies on UHD isn't very impressive. If you'd like to buy me a nicer TV I'll gladly accept.
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CPL593H posted:The point I was making is that the selection of movies on UHD isn't very impressive. If you'd like to buy me a nicer TV I'll gladly accept. If the cost/benefit analysis isn't what you want it to be right now then I totally get that, but at this point several years into the UHD thing there's a lot more available than just the recent big budget blockbusters like Deadpool. I've bought a few of those, like Rampage and Infinity War, but for the most part my UHD shelf is the older stuff that was shot on film like Blade Runner, Halloween, 2001, Predator, Die Hard, Mission Impossible, First Blood, stuff like that. That's where the format really shines. And we're getting maybe 1 or 2 releases like that per month, so it's starting to add up to a pretty decent selection. It's not what it was 2 years ago, or even 12 months ago.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Bruh. I have a 42" 720p HP plasma that my groomsmen gave to me as a wedding gift. I got married in 2007. drat thing is finally carking it, though; there's snow whenever dark color tones show up on the screen.
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Steen71 posted:I recently visited a friend who just purchased a 4K QLED TV, and I was not the least impressed. HDR just looks unnatural because the TV has to crank up the dynamic contrast, and the extra resolution was pointless at the distance we were sitting from the TV.
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RIP, Blu-Ray https://www.techradar.com/news/samsung-confirms-its-stopping-blu-ray-player-production
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Steve Yun posted:RIP, Blu-Ray Oh poo poo, lets discuss this for a few pages. What does it mean for UHD as a format?!?!?!
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I don't understand how TV screen sizes are rising, with every model except for bargain basement crap now 4K HDR, and yet the market is moving to low bitrate streaming for all content. It honestly boggles my mind.
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Baronash posted:I don't understand TV screen sizes are rising, with every model except for bargain basement crap now 4K HDR, and yet the market is moving to low bitrate streaming for all content. It honestly boggles my mind. Not really, most people are very complacent, and I think a lot of viewing is just background noise, you don't need 4k HDR for that.
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I think it's just economy of scale starting to be good for 4k/large screens. Its probably stupid expensive to get a crt TV made nowadays and we have cheap Chinese 4k 60 inch screens for $400 in some places.
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Baronash posted:I don't understand how TV screen sizes are rising, with every model except for bargain basement crap now 4K HDR, and yet the market is moving to low bitrate streaming for all content. It honestly boggles my mind. Most people don't really have a reason to give a poo poo about 4K or HDR. They do have reasons to care about convenience.
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Most people don't care how they get their bazingas, just as long as they're there.
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The truth is that really none of these upgrades have been considered necessary by the majority of people until they became so standard that people were forced to get used to them. Then, once they're used to it, it's hard to go back. I can't tell you how many people claimed that HD was nice but not really necessary, today most of those same people would scoff at standard definition because it's now what they're eyes expect.
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Iron Crowned posted:Most people don't care how they get their bazingas, just as long as they're there. Again, it's Bazin, and I'm not going to be happy until the entire French new Wave is on Blu Ray.
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I don't know if people mentioned it in the thread back when they were first posted about and I missed it, but those Mill Creek blu-rays with the VHS covers... the VHS art is literally a slipcover over their original release. They didn't even change the insert on the case. poo poo, from the pictures I was expecting it to be like those UK-only releases that actually had special boxes with the outer cover and an inner box that looked like the VHS tape. Should've done my research I guess, oh well. Cool slipcover's better than no slipcover? 
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Basebf555 posted:If the cost/benefit analysis isn't what you want it to be right now then I totally get that, but at this point several years into the UHD thing there's a lot more available than just the recent big budget blockbusters like Deadpool. I mean that's one facet of this but I straight up said I can't afford a new tv so I don't know what's had to understand here. But also the reoccurring theme in this very thread about UHD is whether or not it's so much better as to even be worth bothering and that's when people aren't talking about how low the sales are and if it's going to even continue. Iron Crowned posted:Most people don't care how they get their bazingas, just as long as they're there. I'm pretty sure most broadcast tv isn't even in 1080p anyway. There's still no excuse for watching the Big Bang Theory, but that's a whole other problem.
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Baronash posted:I don't understand how TV screen sizes are rising, with every model except for bargain basement crap now 4K HDR, and yet the market is moving to low bitrate streaming for all content. It honestly boggles my mind. The same reason we went from 1411kbps CDs to 128kbps mp3s and everyone thought it was better. Convenience. If video trends the same as audio then in it'll be about 15-20 years before we have streaming options that are equal or better than Blu Ray or UHD quality.
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