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I think I’d like the Scream franchise more if I didn’t hate every single character in it. Naturally, the characters in the Hellraiser movies are all super relatable.
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King Vidiot posted:Man, look at this poser who doesn't know you can just put a piece of tape over the hole to record on it. I used to record over commercially-produced VHS tapes that way, like tapes that were given away in the mail. I knew that I just thought it was odd.
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Drunkboxer posted:I think I’d like the Scream franchise more if I didn’t hate every single character in it. man Matthew Lilliard has LITERALLY never done anything less than a STELLAR performance in any movie he has ever been in
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Feb 19, 2019 05:02
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Dammit people, what gems are on Shudder that I need to check out before my subscription is up?
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escape artist posted:Dammit people, what gems are on Shudder that I need to check out before my subscription is up? Cold Hell
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escape artist posted:Dammit people, what gems are on Shudder that I need to check out before my subscription is up? Why would you not renew? There's a lot of really good films on Shudder, that's kind of its thing. If I had to pick two films for you to watch it would be The Quiet Earth and Dark Waters.
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Feb 19, 2019 05:23
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King Vidiot posted:I used to record over commercially-produced VHS tapes that way, like tapes that were given away in the mail. Who didn't do that? One of my past jobs was closing down and I hauled out two huge boxes of training videos. While they weren't the standard tape capacity, they were just fine for taping music videos off MTV or a Halloween special.
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Feb 19, 2019 05:24
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There’s definitely gas left in the tank for Hellraiser. I actually think the lovely sequels benefit the franchise in a way, because most were released dtv and there’s not a lot of mainstream saturation as a result. Like Joe Q Public recognizes Pinhead, but I imagine the series as a whole is a bit of a blank slate. Get Fede Alvarez behind the camera, push the psychosexual gothic horror element to 11, and go nuts.
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Feb 19, 2019 05:36
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I just think its such a iconic role that it'd be like replacing Robert Englund for Freddy Krueger so they'd have to get back Doug Bradley. I don't think it's problematic to bring back Bradley but like he's really getting up there in age.
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Feb 19, 2019 05:40
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Honestly I'd be way more down for Hellraiser if they just let go of Pinhead. Either you're dragging back an aging actor or replacing him with a weirdo who looks like that rounded off Spongebob meme.
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Feb 19, 2019 05:51
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escape artist posted:Dammit people, what gems are on Shudder that I need to check out before my subscription is up? Beyond the aforementioned Dark Waters and Quiet Earth, (a couple of these are essentials but still): mon mon mon MONSTERS Big Man Japan The Exorcist III Wolfguy Ms .45 The Visitor StageFright Also, if you go through the menu to leave Shudder, they'll give you an option for a free month.
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King Vidiot posted:Man, look at this poser who doesn't know you can just put a piece of tape over the hole to record on it. I used to record over commercially-produced VHS tapes that way, like tapes that were given away in the mail. Yeah but then it would just be one of those cheap like 30 minute tapes.
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escape artist posted:Dammit people, what gems are on Shudder that I need to check out before my subscription is up? Noroi, The Changeling, Mandy, Tenebrae, The Reanimator, Let The Right One In, Dead or Alive
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Feb 19, 2019 07:06
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When is Shudder gonna get Miikes best film, The Happiness of the Katakuris
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Pomp posted:When is Shudder gonna get Miikes best film, The Happiness of the Katakuris I could've sworn it had it, but then I could also be confusing my watchlists from TubiTV and Hulu with my Shudder.
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Well, that's an amazing list of recommendations, folks, and I don't think I'm gonna cancel it now.Hollismason posted:Why would you not renew?
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Pomp posted:When is Shudder gonna get Miikes best film, The Happiness of the Katakuris It had it for at least a year. edit: It's still on Amazon Prime as a free rental.
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Speaking of happiness of the katakuris, anyone else ever watch Battlefield Baseball? Really underrated and a similar sort of absurdist horror experience. https://youtu.be/ocyUzoaoVfQ
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Scream is better movie than Hellraiser and it's not even close. Hellraiser is great and all but Scream is a nearly perfect movie.  Not sure how another Scream movie could work though - another continuation of Sydney's story would be dumb, a faithful remake would be unnecessary, and a reboot with different characters might as well just be a different film. Lots of life left in Hellraiser though I think.
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escape artist posted:Well, that's an amazing list of recommendations, folks, and I don't think I'm gonna cancel it now. It's 5 dollars a month.
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gey muckle mowser posted:Scream is better movie than Hellraiser and it's not even close. Hellraiser is great and all but Scream is a nearly perfect movie. I always found Scream just a little too on the nose myself. That being said, I did like 4 a lot
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Hellraiser is better than Scream, both as individual films and as series. Individually, maybe you could say that Scream is tighter, there are no wasted moments. Hellraiser moves ahead because of the special effects and because the premise is so unique and interesting and Bradley's Pinhead fully delivers on that premise. As a series, I didn't really enjoy any of the Scream sequels, certainly not as much as Hellraiser II. To me Scream 4 is something about equal to Hellraiser Bloodlines. So the only truly worthy sequel between the two series is Hellbound.
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Hollismason posted:Well we're going to find out I am going this weekend to find a VHS player. "This weekend". Shithead, you're going to pull a "seven days..." stunt, aren't you?
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Feb 19, 2019 16:10
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Shudder also does promos occasionally. In October I signed up for a year for like $35 I believe the 60 day free trial code is still working too ; GROUPON60
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I’ve had good results selling old VHS on EBay. I just had 6 tapes that’s were just hours of uninterrupted local programming from ~1991 that sold for $15 . I’m always down for some unmarked VHS. I’ve never found anything really interesting though.
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I’m still proud of haggling down a VHS copy of Pi from $5.50 to $3.14
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Scream is an all-time Classic. Lillard 4 Lyfe. Scream 2 is about twenty minutes too long and the identity reveal is baaaad. Scream 3 is absolute dogshit Scream 4 is a lot of fun!
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What I liked about Scream 4 is that it establishes a reason for the narrative. Like, the thing that always bugged me about Scream 1 was that there never seemed to be a reason for them to be following horror film rules. Like, its characters in a horror film who know they are in a horror film but there never seemed to be a context to why they would be examining their situation through that lens. Scream 4 ties the "horror movie rules" in universe better by talking about how the killings are attempting to create a narrative of the original killings. And that the narrative is explicitly a product of the media of that universe.
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I agree you should never recast an iconic character. Sean Connery would make a fine Bond to this day.
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I haven't seen it a while, so correct me if I'm wrong: Isn't the whole reasoning for the killers in Scream using the horror film context because they're wanting both notoriety for the killings, but also anonymity? They're framing it in a context where everyone involved can say "Oh, it's like a movie!" to distract everyone from the actual culprit(s), so the killer can "vanish", and with it his 'movie' motive, instead of their real motive.
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Franchescanado posted:I haven't seen it a while, so correct me if I'm wrong: If that was the reason it's pretty dope and I like it but I missed that myself
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Franchescanado posted:I haven't seen it a while, so correct me if I'm wrong: I think the plan is to pin the crimes on Randy isn't it? And Randy is a known horror movie fanatic so that's why they're doing all that stuff to make it seem like a horror movie.
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Basebf555 posted:I think the plan is to pin the crimes on Randy isn't it? And Randy is a known horror movie fanatic so that's why they're doing all that stuff to make it seem like a horror movie. They were framing her father
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Basebf555 posted:I think the plan is to pin the crimes on Randy isn't it? And Randy is a known horror movie fanatic so that's why they're doing all that stuff to make it seem like a horror movie. Yeah that’s why they stab each other, to fake defensive wounds. The plan was always for Billy and Stu to get away with the murders, and maybe even be branded heroes after the fact for killing “the real killer” in the process.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:If that was the reason it's pretty dope and I like it but I missed that myself Basebf555 posted:I think the plan is to pin the crimes on Randy isn't it? And Randy is a known horror movie fanatic so that's why they're doing all that stuff to make it seem like a horror movie. I looked it up, since I knew I was missing something. I'm pretty sure that's Billy's whole speech: how people are so obsessed with horror movies that they'll latch onto that because it's fun and cool, meanwhile they get away with murder just because they also seem like victims, while they actually put the blame on Sidney's father. So they're using a horror movie context to distract from Billy's revenge motives against Sidney's family (Sid's mom had an affair with Billy's dad, causing Billy's mom to leave) while also blaming it on Sidney's family. I think the actual horror movie framing is Stu's idea. edit2: Like FartCity mentions, they're planning on killing Sidney's father, and then dress him up as the killer, so they can escape blame. S'little confusing, to be honest.
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Franchescanado posted:I haven't seen it a while, so correct me if I'm wrong: My take on it was much like how many seem to think real world relationships are like those in the rom-coms and all, the killers felt for killing to follow along with horror movie rules since that has to be how it works.
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Ah yea that's right I forgot how they have the father tied up in the closet. I watch the movie every few years but that whole last third at the house party can be kind of a blur(but in a good way) if you aren't paying close attention.
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Basebf555 posted:Ah yea that's right I forgot how they have the father tied up in the closet. I watch the movie every few years but that whole last third at the house party can be kind of a blur(but in a good way) if you aren't paying close attention. It's blasphemy, I know, but I always liked that Scary Movie changed the twist to the Billy & Stu characters being copy-cat killers for their convenience while the real Ghost Face was the Dewey parody. I kinda like the idea of two characters committing their own murders because there's a serial killer at work that they can conveniently blame it on. M_Sinistrari posted:My take on it was much like how many seem to think real world relationships are like those in the rom-coms and all, the killers felt for killing to follow along with horror movie rules since that has to be how it works. I like this too. Billy is just as well-versed on the horror movie rules as Randy, he just plays dumb throughout. He specifically mentions having sex with Sidney so she can't survive for being a virgin (while also sociopathically committing "revenge" for her mother sleeping with his dad). Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Feb 19, 2019 |
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And then all of that interesting character work gets retconned to oblivion in 3.
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Franchescanado posted:I looked it up, since I knew I was missing something. I'm pretty sure that's Billy's whole speech: how people are so obsessed with horror movies that they'll latch onto that because it's fun and cool, meanwhile they get away with murder just because they also seem like victims, while they actually put the blame on Sidney's father. It does make me realize that a killer who kills in a way to appear mythic so people stop believing he is real would be interesting
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