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MacheteZombie posted:Not slimy enough is a complaint I have a lot
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Franchescanado posted:Didn't JEH also flip script and start poo poo talking Freddy and/or the franchise as soon as the bad reviews started to pour in? Someone who worked on it in some capacity is in the Discord and said, last I heard, that JEH never cared for the NoES series or Freddy as a character and was pretty open about this. Which is a little funny, since he reused the performance nearly loving verbatim as Grewcica in Alita: Battle Angel.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:26
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Kvlt! posted:Not slimy enough is a complaint I have a lot Learn foreplay.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:28
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Jay Bauman said that too. So it checks out. Funny enough that Jackie was with Depp when he was auditioning for it though
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Feb 19, 2019 20:28
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The NOES reboot was so poorly executed at so many fundamental levels you would have thought the whole thing was some rights retention scheme.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:37
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Fart City posted:The NOES reboot was so poorly executed at so many fundamental levels you would have thought the whole thing was some rights retention scheme. It's amazing that almost every single cgi recreation in the remake looks like absolute poo poo when compared to the original practical effects shots that were made 20+ years prior.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:49
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Basebf555 posted:I thought the Pinhead from Hellraiser Judgment was good, I wouldn't mind seeing him get a real shot at the role in a better film with an actual budget behind it. Not that Hellraiser needs 50+ million to work but Judgement felt like it was made for less than seven figures. Yeah, Judgement's Pinhead actually isn't that bad as far as replacement Pinheads go. I feel like literally any budget Blumhouse gives them would be a massive step up from what Dimension was giving them. Fart City posted:There’s definitely gas left in the tank for Hellraiser. I actually think the lovely sequels benefit the franchise in a way, because most were released dtv and there’s not a lot of mainstream saturation as a result. Like Joe Q Public recognizes Pinhead, but I imagine the series as a whole is a bit of a blank slate. I'd say Panos Cosmatos could also be a good fit, but maybe just let Cosmatos make his own original films.
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ruddiger posted:It's amazing that almost every single cgi recreation in the remake looks like absolute poo poo when compared to the original practical effects shots that were made 20+ years prior. Super sucks because the one justification you could maybe use for remaking it is that the advancements in special effects would allow you to do some really trippy, surreal stuff that would have been hard to pull off back in the day. Modeling Freddy off of real burn victims using advancements in green screen to hollow out his cheeks and shave down his features? Cool in theory. Instead we get a complete retread where everything just looks cheaper.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:07
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Friends Are Evil posted:Yeah, Judgement's Pinhead actually isn't that bad as far as replacement Pinheads go. He's certainly a huge step up from this guy, who's casting I still don't understand except in the context of a movie that was just casting random dudes who were hanging around because they needed to maintain the rights: 
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Feb 19, 2019 21:09
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Basebf555 posted:He's certainly a huge step up from this guy, who's casting I still don't understand except in the context of a movie that was just casting random dudes who were hanging around because they needed to maintain the rights: Motherfucker looks like Tim Heidecker in a Pinhead costume. If you've ever heard Gary Tunnicliffe talk about his experience writing Hellraiser: Revelations and watching it go to poo poo, it's really fascinating. Granted, the Hellraiser movie he actually got to make is also bad.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:16
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Hot take: Tom Hiddleston would make a good Pinhead.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:23
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Posting this here mostly so I can find it quickly later, but it makes for a good (and topical) horror thread YTotD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIowxSK8LIk
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My decision to rewatch Jack Frost recently has opened the amazon rec portal into a surprisingly deep world of holiday horror films
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drat, I missed Scream chat. After rewatching them in October I say 1 remains an absolute classic and 4 is a very good sequel that takes the themes and plays them to a next level and also can help to enhance them in the first film. Scream is a really great film by Wes and deserves multiple watches to see how many layered ideas are in there after you get the reveals. And I think its important to get past the "horror movie meta" aspect of it and realize that's a game Billy and Stu are playing. That became Scream's legacy so much that I think it kind of hides a really smart and good slasher and murder mystery.Basebf555 posted:The tone there is perfect because it passes as natural edgy 90's teen dialogue when you first see it, but then on rewatch you're right it takes on a completely different meaning. That goes for almost all of the dialogue between Billy and Stu actually, like the scene in the video store. Yeah, there's scene midway through the film where Billy and Stu are harassing Randy and basically threatening to kill him and its kind of remarkably how much the tone of it changes when you view them as the killers vs just a couple of rear end in a top hat teens kinda bullying their "friend." That's a lot of what works so well for me with Scream. They're all believably teens to me. Sid's the only one who ever feels "older" and that makes sense because she's been through the tragedy with her mom and is at the heart of all this madness. And everything about Stu's death (Billy absolutely meant to kill him, or at the very least had no regard for whether he lived or died) and how the fantasy of the killings dies away for him and he becomes a scared kid is really great done from all involved.
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Fart City posted:Super sucks because the one justification you could maybe use for remaking it is that the advancements in special effects would allow you to do some really trippy, surreal stuff that would have been hard to pull off back in the day. Modeling Freddy off of real burn victims using advancements in green screen to hollow out his cheeks and shave down his features? Cool in theory. I was going to say, practical Freddy is of course iconic but I was assuming for the remake they were going to go for something like Two Face in The Dark Knight but gruesomer. Such a waste.
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Scream chat made me ask my group of friends who come to my Spooky Nights if they've seen it. Only one has seen it, and that was a while ago. Now it's on the list.
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Franchescanado posted:It's blasphemy, I know, but I always liked that Scary Movie changed the twist to the Billy & Stu characters being copy-cat killers for their convenience while the real Ghost Face was the Dewey parody. I kinda like the idea of two characters committing their own murders because there's a serial killer at work that they can conveniently blame it on. Really? drat, I never saw the first Scary Movie but that’s actually a pretty solid twist Fart City posted:The best (and arguably low key creepiest) aspect of the killers’ motivation in the first film is that Stu has no real dog in the whole family fight. Billy is doing everything under the pretense of revenge, but Stu is just in it for the thrill kill aspect. And it’s important to remember that these are supposed to be high school kids. Columbine would occur just three years after Scream’s release. Stu is a closet case who can’t admit he’s in love with Billy
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Feb 19, 2019 23:00
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Scream 1 and 4 own and the series should stay done. Hellraiser 1 and 2 own and it should definitely be updated. The first 15 pages of the novella are awesome and it's boiled down to 1 minute in the movie. They need to expand on all the themes of the book. Also, they should make Pinhead an androgynous creature with the high breathy voice of a girl, like in the book.
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Feb 19, 2019 23:06
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Franchescanado posted:I think there's room to argue Billy is aware of this. Notice how little he worries about Stu bleeding to death. Or how many times he angrily stabs him in the first place. That's another bit that adds to my take on it of they've been so shaped by the media that they're ignorant of the reality. For how much it's seen over in the r/relationships thread about someone doing something commonly seen in a romcom which wins over the love interest, but they're confused when doing the same thing in real life doesn't work and/or they're now considered a wierdo.
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Origami Dali posted:Hellraiser 1 and 2 own and it should definitely be updated. The first 15 pages of the novella are awesome and it's boiled down to 1 minute in the movie. They need to expand on all the themes of the book. Also, they should make Pinhead an androgynous creature with the high breathy voice of a girl, like in the book. I don't understand why they haven't tried this yet. Especially after how insanely bad their first attempt at replacing Doug Bradley went on every possible level, taking a totally different approach that's also very accurate to the novella seems like a no-brainer. The guy they got for Judgment was fine though. I have to be honest though the best part of that movie is by far Pinhead's like administrative assistant guy. To the point where if they make another one and it's not an attempt to re-adapt the original novella I'd say that guy should be around almost more importantly than Pinhead. I loved him. Fart City posted:Hot take: Tom Hiddleston would make a good Pinhead. This would be rad. What's everyone's cenobite casting short list?
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Neo Rasa posted:
Tilda Swinton, maybe.
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Neo Rasa posted:
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You'd need someone who feels pretentious, and bored but also believably capable of extreme violence so the bald guy from Mandy and John Malkovich
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Feb 20, 2019 06:23
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Benedict Cumberbatch for Pinhead, but voiced by Jennifer Tilly.
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Pomp posted:You'd need someone who feels pretentious, and bored but also believably capable of extreme violence so the bald guy from Mandy and John Malkovich So Mads Mikkelsen?
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Pomp posted:You'd need someone who feels pretentious, and bored but also believably capable of extreme violence so the bald guy from Mandy and John Malkovich Bald Nicolas Cage
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Stone Cold Steve Austin http://imgur.com/gallery/mHfLxKq Pinhead 3:16 says I just ripped your rear end! TheKingslayer fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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The Bloodthirsty Trilogy is on Prime so I watched the first one, The Vampire Doll, a couple nights ago and was pleasantly surprised by how wonderful and creepy it was. I love old Japanese horror and need to find more of it. Then watched Summer of 84 (on Shudder) and thought it was everything that It wasn’t. And daaamn those finals 20 minutes were just spectacular! I love when a movie lulls me into a false sense of security.
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Pomp posted:You'd need someone who feels pretentious, and bored but also believably capable of extreme violence so the bald guy from Mandy and John Malkovich Patrick Stewart then.
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Feb 20, 2019 12:29
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Tyler Perry for Pinhead.
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Hollismason posted:Tyler Perry for Pinhead. The Madea Configuration 
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My picks for cenobites/Pinhead: Doug Jones Mark Rylance That dude who plays Death in the t.v. show Supernatural
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Basebf555 posted:My picks for cenobites/Pinhead: 
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Sadly he passed away at only age 51, back in the 1970s.
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Origami Dali posted:Also, they should make Pinhead an androgynous creature with the high breathy voice of a girl, like in the book. Tilda Swin- Drunkboxer posted:Tilda Swinton, maybe. Not even remotely surprised I wasn't the first to say this. "Androgynous character who projects both icy detachment and deep perversion with a humorless grace and sense of absolute authority" is so within her skill set it almost feels like cheating to bring her up.
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Tilda Swinton disappointed me for the first time ever, in Suspiria. Maybe it was Guadagnino's direction or something, but her performance was way too low-key and blah for me. I wanted something a bit more overtly pretentious and aristocratic than that. Not necessarily chewing scenery....but ok yea maybe some scenery chewing would've been nice.
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Basebf555 posted:Tilda Swinton disappointed me for the first time ever, in Suspiria. Maybe it was Guadagnino's direction or something, but her performance was way too low-key and blah for me. I wanted something a bit more overtly pretentious and aristocratic than that. Not necessarily chewing scenery....but ok yea maybe some scenery chewing would've been nice. I kind of agree, but I think that's because I went in expecting Madame Blanc to be the arch villain the character was in the original, when she was more of a pawn here who was actually supporting Susie. I think Tilda played the character just fine, it just wasn't the character I was expecting it to be from the previous movie and the trailers. She definitely ate all the scenery she could as Helena Markos, though.
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