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https://twitter.com/AJCassavell/status/1097951093454041088 BUT YOU STILL NEED TO SIGN HARPER, KEUCHEL, KIMBREL, AND LIKE A HUNDRED OTHERS, YOU COLLUDING FUCKS  MLB.TV SHARING THREAD https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3882380 MEET THE TEAMS Sydin posted:Meet the teams thread is up. Go post about why your team is cool and good. MILLENNIUM TEAMS Easy Diff posted:Build-a-Team: Millennium Edition is up. It's been a few years since I did one of these, so I'm looking forward to ya'll's updates. PROSPECT THREAD? Maybe we could have one of these again I think it would be cool but don't really know anything to put in the op so I'm hoping someone with more knowledge can cover that so I can link that thread too!  GalacticAcid posted:Here's a guide to spring training performance evaluation i just whipped together, hope it's helpful! IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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I didn't realize ST games started tomorrow. BASEBALL IS BACK
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Feb 20, 2019 16:17
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Awwwwwww poo poo son.
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Feb 20, 2019 16:25
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NOW SIGN HARPER YOU FUCKSTICKS
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Feb 20, 2019 16:25
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Work is looking to be painfully slow this morning so I'll try to knock together a Meet the Teams thread once I get in unless some go-getting goon jumps on it earlier.
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Feb 20, 2019 16:26
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Of course the first Yankees ST game is against the red sox 
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Feb 20, 2019 16:32
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https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/1098027260336979968 I mean, good for you I guess White Sox, but you're going to have a real hard loving time signing anybody meaningful without throwing in an opt out or two.
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Feb 20, 2019 16:42
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I'm still living in my crazy fantasy world with ivy-colored glasses where the Cubs sign Harper even though Tom Ricketts is basically doing this:
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Feb 20, 2019 16:46
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If your answer to not signing a player is we don't have the money, then you should not own a baseball team.
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Feb 20, 2019 16:53
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Here's a guide to spring training performance evaluation i just whipped together, hope it's helpful!
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Feb 20, 2019 16:59
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/1098027260336979968 I swear opt-outs have only become A Thing in the last couple years
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Feb 20, 2019 17:05
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Spring Training 2018 proved beyond all doubt that: Ohtani couldn't hit worth a poo poo Ohtani couldn't pitch worth a poo poo Ohtani was healthy enough to play And now we know that none of those things are true.
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Feb 20, 2019 17:06
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a neat cape posted:Was prime Pujols better than prime Trout? Carrying this over. Prime Pujols was arguably 2003-2010: 334/433/635 - 177 OPS+ - 69.3 bWAR Trout 2012-2018: 310/420/579 - 178 OPS+ - 63.8 bWAR I think prime Trout is right now and I think he has ~4 years left of this. Trout's last 4 years offensively have been insane. The thing with Pujols was that he never loving struck out. Trout is only 200 K's away from having Pujols' career K total. Pujols loved making contact. I think Trout's prime will be better when it's all done.
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Feb 20, 2019 17:11
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baseball is back baby, and it's good, awwoooooo (unsigned free agent howl)
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iospace posted:NOW SIGN HARPER YOU FUCKSTICKS 
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Feb 20, 2019 17:26
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bring back 80s baseball
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Feb 20, 2019 17:28
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Carrying this over. I like how we pretend strikeouts matter when stanning for players we like 
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Feb 20, 2019 17:29
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Good Dog posted:Spring Training 2018 proved beyond all doubt that: Ohtani's ST looked so bad I actually thought he might not do well in the regular season. Not having any meaningful baseball to watch for months does weird things to the brain.
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Feb 20, 2019 17:30
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Popete posted:Ohtani's ST looked so bad I actually thought he might not do well in the regular season. Not having any meaningful baseball to watch for months does weird things to the brain. Ohtani did make a legitimate change to his swing to shorten up his leg lift/kick a lot before the regular season, some of the doubts were valid before that.
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Feb 20, 2019 17:32
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In ST Kyle Tucker looked like one of the best hitters in baseball and welp
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Feb 20, 2019 17:36
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Carrying this over. edit: Trout has 52 GIDP’s in his career. From 03-10, Albert GIDP’ed 162 times. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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Thom P. Tiers posted:Carrying this over. My favorite part of this argument is that it uses a cumulative stat (bWAR) as an attempt to make Pujols look better, but Pujols has an extra year in the timeframes used. Trout's average bWAR over this timeframe is 9.11 vs 8.66 for Pujols. It would go up to 8.81 if you took out 2010 to make it the same amount of years but then Pujols would have less cumulative bWAR (61.7). bawfuls posted:Pujols didn’t strike out in his prime, but how many more double plays did he hit into? Not a direct answer to your question but through looking at his player page I have discovered that Albert Pujols is the all-time leader in GIDP
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Feb 20, 2019 17:37
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When you start looking at foot speed, Pujols is actually the most successful negative WAR player of all time.
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bawfuls posted:Pujols didn’t strike out in his prime, but how many more double plays did he hit into? How many popouts did he have? Votto GOAT
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bawfuls posted:Pujols didn’t strike out in his prime, but how many more double plays did he hit into? All-time leader baby awoooo The fact that Tony loving Gwynn admired Albert’s contact ability speaks volumes, I think.
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I don't think there's much of any argument that Trout is the better player by WAR. He does everything well. There's like...half a dozen guys ever who did everything as well as he does. Maybe less? Pujols was still a better hitter.
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bewbies posted:I don't think there's much of any argument that Trout is the better player by WAR. He does everything well. There's like...half a dozen guys ever who did everything as well as he does. Maybe less?
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bawfuls posted:park and context adjusted stats disagree with you on this Struck out less, on base more, more dingers, more XBHs agree though. I'm comfortable where I sit.
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Feb 20, 2019 17:51
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Advanced stats stop mattering when they contradict my opinion, I say
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Feb 20, 2019 17:54
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bawfuls posted:park and context adjusted stats disagree with you on this About 40 more total bases per year on average, even if you use Pujols’ full career numbers rather than his peak. Better power hitter?
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Feb 20, 2019 17:55
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Advanced stats ruined baseball and are being used as tools to suppress player wages. We must radically reject them. Jim Rice owned.
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Feb 20, 2019 17:57
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Just my opinion, but I would kiss Albert Pujols on the lips
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Feb 20, 2019 17:58
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The original query was worded as whether Trout was the more dominant player, which requires context-adjusted figures to see how they stacked against their contemporaries. However, had the question been who was the more productive[/i ]player, bewbies's methodology of directly comparing counting & rate stats would be perfectly justified. -[i]The Nuanced Guy
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Pujols killed Brad Lidge('s career). Until I have evidence Trout did something on that level, gonna have to go with Pujols as the GOAT. Edit: I'll entertain arguments Trout has killed Felix. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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Pujols also had more good bats around him, like Larry Walker and Jim Edmonds, unlike Trout who has nothing but worthless bats, like Albert Pujolsseiferguy posted:Pujols killed Brad Lidge('s career). Until I have evidence Trout did something on that level, gonna have to go with Pujols as the GOAT. Lidge put up an extremely dominant season and won a world series like three years later
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Most MVP robbed players of all time: Aaron, Williams, Musial, Mays, Pujols?Intruder posted:Pujols also had more good bats around him, like Larry Walker and Jim Edmonds, unlike Trout who has nothing but worthless bats, like Albert Pujols Let’s not forget Rolen and Holliday.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Advanced stats ruined baseball and are being used as tools to suppress player wages. We must radically reject them. Jim Rice owned. This guy gets it. .350 ain't a half bad OBP 
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Bonds Yes I know he won 7 MVPs, but it's still Bonds
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Anaheim is a tough place to hit, just looking at how bad Pujols is now is all the proof I need.seiferguy posted:Pujols killed Brad Lidge('s career). Until I have evidence Trout did something on that level, gonna have to go with Pujols as the GOAT. 
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Hahah follow Bill for updates on the macabre comedy of Bob Nutting's annual Spring Training press conference https://twitter.com/BrinkPG/status/1098264071298785286
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