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dogstile posted:Considering everyone seems to be really into being a genocidal maniac, they're probably just doing what people already seem to like. Paradox has said a few times that xenophile is the most popular ethos so I think people are mainly talking up a big game.
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Many of you have seen me post about being unhappy with orbital deposits so I'm trying to make a mod, even if it is just for myself as a learning experience. I dont want to poo poo up this thread any more than I already do by posting more, with questions about making the mod, so I made a thread on the paradox forums about it, including a poll about having more orbital resources show up.PittTheElder posted:Yeah 1UPT was a mistake. Not because it's inherently bad, I need think it was actually a good move, but they needed way more tiles per map to give you any room to maneouvre at all. And then the tile yields were so low you were better off packing in cities ICS style, which only made things worse. The fact that they never bothered to fix it is insane.
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hobbesmaster posted:Paradox has said a few times that xenophile is the most popular ethos so I think people are mainly talking up a big game. I'm immediately skeptical of their findings seeing as Xenophile is one of the ethics on "default humans," so there's probably some significant skew from people who are just starting, and are doing some combination of picking the most familiar thing or what looks like the default for a first play through. This is assuming these metrics are trolled from the game itself and not survey data, and that Paradox didn't think of/put the time into correcting this because it honestly isn't a super important thing to be accurate about.
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Feb 22, 2019 05:08
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Warmachine posted:I'm immediately skeptical of their findings seeing as Xenophile is one of the ethics on "default humans," so there's probably some significant skew from people who are just starting, and are doing some combination of picking the most familiar thing or what looks like the default for a first play through. This is assuming these metrics are trolled from the game itself and not survey data, and that Paradox didn't think of/put the time into correcting this because it honestly isn't a super important thing to be accurate about.
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Feb 22, 2019 05:10
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Warmachine posted:I pretty much live in the Rimworld thread, and warcrimes seem to be a common thread among strategy game enthusiasts. I don't get it personally. I was never cruel to my Sims. Yeah this game has an entire expansion centered around being able to blow up worlds, and it's considered a must-have
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Feb 22, 2019 05:45
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In hundreds of hours of Stellaris I have never played a xenophobic or authoritarian race, nor a devouring swarm. I can't invested in trying to make a an evil empire successful :|
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Feb 22, 2019 05:47
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Yeah I don't really care to go out of my play at being the baddies, it's just not a fantasy I've ever had.
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Feb 22, 2019 05:53
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I mostly play Assimilators, but don't worry, I mostly only assimilate you if there's poo poo I want in your empire's space. ... My precursor system spawned in your empire? Welp, sucks to be you.
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Feb 22, 2019 06:15
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Blorange posted:That sounds like your federation partner claimed the home system of a life-seeded empire. Well it just happened again last night. The Great Khan came and went, resulting in 2 new empires. I (not in a federation) attacked one of them, won the war while claiming some territory, and then suddenly the rest of their territory went neutral. I don't think that I took their only planet, but I don't have a way of going back to confirm.
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Feb 22, 2019 07:02
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Majestic posted:In hundreds of hours of Stellaris I have never played a xenophobic or authoritarian race, nor a devouring swarm. Zane fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Feb 22, 2019 |
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Feb 22, 2019 07:07
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Honestly I think my favorite run ever in this game was my Purifier-before-there-were-Purifiers run back in 1.2 or something. Civics weren't a thing yet, so I was technically just a regular empire, but that didn't stop my from purging every other sapient race in the galaxy, and then purging my own race just for funsies. There's a picture in one of the old threads, I think I might actually have been amongst the first to do so.
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Feb 22, 2019 07:19
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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yeah it's actually a very different and interesting strategic experience to be at war with everyone else. you have localized advantages from your combat bonuses which you have to manage very carefully.
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Feb 22, 2019 07:28
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New Horizons is finally updating for 2.2 tomorrow, just in case anyone else here has been curious about how the Ferengi will play as a megacorp.
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Feb 22, 2019 07:45
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hobbesmaster posted:Paradox has said a few times that xenophile is the most popular ethos so I think people are mainly talking up a big game. I don't even understand how people can make themselves play genocidal empires. The first and last time I tried playing one (exterminators), the first event about my robots killing all native life on a planet made me so sad I went back to my xenophile science empires and never looked back. Evil empires are there so you have interesting enemies to destroy, playing as one is just incredibly boring and tedious
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Feb 22, 2019 09:08
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You play devouring swarm. It's not good. It's not evil either. It just a little bit peckish.
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Feb 22, 2019 09:24
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Why do devouring swarms talk to you? Opening the diplomacy menu should just get you a screen full of wriggling tendrils and incoherent shrieking.
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Feb 22, 2019 09:43
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Splicer posted:Why do devouring swarms talk to you? Opening the diplomacy menu should just get you a screen full of wriggling tendrils and incoherent shrieking. Now I want a "Dawn Hunter"-version of the exterminators where it's just creepy binary screeching at you if you open the diplomacy screen. 
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Feb 22, 2019 10:04
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I'm playing a race of "definitely not chryssalids" right now. Genocide isn't just on the menu, it's the whole thing.
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Feb 22, 2019 10:11
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Majestic posted:In hundreds of hours of Stellaris I have never played a xenophobic or authoritarian race, nor a devouring swarm. I play baddies to get the achievements because they're all I've got left to get other than the really random ones. Devouring Swam is fun because it changes the mechanics but I find it hard to play anyone with slaves.
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Feb 22, 2019 10:27
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Libluini posted:I don't even understand how people can make themselves play genocidal empires. The first and last time I tried playing one (exterminators), the first event about my robots killing all native life on a planet made me so sad I went back to my xenophile science empires and never looked back. It helps if you don't think of xenos as people. Fanatic Purifiers don't think they're evil after all, they think the rest of the universe just needs to be cleansed. Now I want to play a race based on Marie Kondo, eliminating all the xenos that don't spark joy.
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Feb 22, 2019 10:39
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Libluini posted:I don't even understand how people can make themselves play genocidal empires. The first and last time I tried playing one (exterminators), the first event about my robots killing all native life on a planet made me so sad I went back to my xenophile science empires and never looked back. Good empires are there so you have interesting enemies to consume Although I do actually enjoy the diplomacy system but at the same time I like playing as, like, The Empire, enslaving the lesser races and being Galaxy's Biggest Dick. It's the only thing that prevents me from creating an evil space empire in real life
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Feb 22, 2019 11:24
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You can kind of play nice guy authoritarians now. The aim is to work toward academic privilege with all the grunt work performed by droids and 100% employment otherwise.
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Feb 22, 2019 11:26
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Aethernet posted:It helps if you don't think of xenos as people. Fanatic Purifiers don't think they're evil after all, they think the rest of the universe just needs to be cleansed. I tend to think of even devouring swarms as people. Weird, hostile people, but still people. Everyone in my empires is always sad when we have to scour them from the universe and slave-shielding their last world. Man, now I wish Paradox would finally fix this weird slow-down in 2.2.5, so I could get back to playing. 
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Feb 22, 2019 12:33
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So I droids tech but my robots are still robots. Do they not automatically upgrade to droids or how do I manually do it?
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Feb 22, 2019 13:12
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Droids just gives your robots a boost and expands their available jobs now.
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Feb 22, 2019 13:21
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Axetrain posted:So I droids tech but my robots are still robots. Do they not automatically upgrade to droids or how do I manually do it?
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Feb 22, 2019 13:58
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I think they get an additional 10% resource bonus too.
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Feb 22, 2019 14:18
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Xenophiles are the best because I can basically imagine my empire as being one nonstop Star Wars cantina scene.
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Feb 22, 2019 15:18
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I'm always amazed at the amount of carebears when this topic comes up. Why wouldn't you want to play a race of genocidal maniacs that conquer the earth/the galaxy/whatever? It's not real you guys/girls, you are allowed to be an rear end in a top hat in games. (Single player anyway, multiplayer can be different.) And since Beyond Earth came up, I have to wonder what Paradox would do with a concept like that.
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uXs posted:I'm always amazed at the amount of carebears when this topic comes up. Why wouldn't you want to play a race of genocidal maniacs that conquer the earth/the galaxy/whatever? It's not real you guys/girls, you are allowed to be an rear end in a top hat in games. (Single player anyway, multiplayer can be different.) Because it's fun to create a utopian society and try to Make Things Better 
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uXs posted:I'm always amazed at the amount of carebears when this topic comes up. Why wouldn't you want to play a race of genocidal maniacs that conquer the earth/the galaxy/whatever? It's not real you guys/girls, you are allowed to be an rear end in a top hat in games. (Single player anyway, multiplayer can be different.)
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Lol just lol if you don’t trample lesser technologies under foot.
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There's 2 ways to play 1: Play it like an RTS you are tasked with killing everyone else and don't care what they do (this is standard first reaction) 2: Storytelling / roleplaying. Take some traits and go with it. Your species can evolve and learn as well. Maybe you start and are nice towards outside species get backstabbed by a few allies and turn xenophobic, maybe THE WORM compels you to eradicate all life, maybe you stick with what you started. Civ is generally trying to pick up more of the 1st type of player and Stellaries the 2nd type. Start out by creating a backstory (much like you would a DnD character) then figure out the story you want to tell. The AI is trying to stop you from telling your story. The fun is dealing with the AI and the events that prevent you from telling your story. You end up with something close, but not at all what you planned.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Because it's fun to create a utopian society and try to Make Things Better You know the Space Fascists feel the same, just in their own special way.
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Since we are in the topic of space assholery, I want to try a game doing some of that since nihilistic acquisition is OP. I've been tinkering about trying for a "Space Sparta" sort of deal, so: fanatic militarist, authoritarian, slaver guilds, citizen service?
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uXs posted:I'm always amazed at the amount of carebears when this topic comes up. Why wouldn't you want to play a race of genocidal maniacs that conquer the earth/the galaxy/whatever? It's not real you guys/girls, you are allowed to be an rear end in a top hat in games. (Single player anyway, multiplayer can be different.) You can still take over the galaxy and then go hang out and have drinks with your weird smelly alien friends.
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Feb 22, 2019 15:57
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I have equal fun as egalitarian xenophiles, fanatical purifiers, hive minds, and driven assimilators. And that's ok.
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Feb 22, 2019 15:58
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Just like there are DnD campaigns played that turn into negotiations of land rights and peace summits. There are games where you are just a band of murder hobos. Both are perfectly acceptable. In DnD and in Stellaris.
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Guys, if you've read The Dark Forest, you'll know that the only rational and ethical response to discovering intelligent life is to try to kill it.
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