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On my way home from work this evening I caught the New York Times' The Daily podcast on my local NPR station and today's episode was about this year's Oscar for best picture. It goes into why Driving Miss Daisy and Green Book are basically the same movie made 30 years apart, why neither of them deserved to win the Oscar for Best Picture, why they both won anyways, and what that says about the role of race in our culture in general and in Hollywood in particular.
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Mr.Radar posted:On my way home from work this evening I caught the New York Times' The Daily podcast on my local NPR station and today's episode was about this year's Oscar for best picture. It goes into why Driving Miss Daisy and Green Book are basically the same movie made 30 years apart, why neither of them deserved to win the Oscar for Best Picture, why they both won anyways, and what that says about the role of race in our culture in general and in Hollywood in particular. I believe it was Ta-Nehisi Coates that said (talking about Crash) that Hollywood loves any film that tells them they are both beyond racism while still allowing them to be racist. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Feb 27, 2019 |
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Feb 27, 2019 02:33
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For lack of a better term, the Academy and Hollywood does do a lot of what could be called virtue signalling. Mainly because it's a big old bubble that's rather out of touch. As long as it can pay lip service to something it won't look in the mirror.
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Feb 27, 2019 02:41
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lol imagine being so thin skinned you whine about the dislike button the point that dan was making (which was conveniently cut short by the screencap) was that youtube is perfectly fine with people getting their videos spammed with dislikes for crimes such as "being a black woman" but suddenly cared when their own (terrible) video was spammed with dislikes for the crime of "not having pewdiepie in it" Kim Justice posted:For lack of a better term, the Academy and Hollywood does do a lot of what could be called virtue signalling. Mainly because it's a big old bubble that's rather out of touch. As long as it can pay lip service to something it won't look in the mirror. much like "sjw" and "political correctness", "virtue signaling" is a phrase that should in theory refer to something very specific (in this case the kind of shallow, token things well-off people do to convince themselves and others they are doing the right thing without actually doing anything) but in practice has just become a catch-all term to deride any behavior more tolerant and accepting than Hitler. Augus fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Feb 27, 2019 |
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Feb 27, 2019 02:42
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My dislike for rewind was because rewind will always be trash garbage no matter who was or wasn't in it. Thumbs down is in fact cool and good.
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Feb 27, 2019 02:48
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Yardbomb posted:My dislike for rewind was because rewind will always be trash garbage no matter who was or wasn't in it. *thumbs down this post*
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Feb 27, 2019 02:49
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Augus posted:much like "sjw" and "political correctness", "virtue signaling" is a phrase that should in theory refer to something very specific (in this case the kind of shallow, token things well-off people do to convince themselves and others they are doing the right thing without actually doing anything) but in practice has just become a catch-all term to deride any behavior more tolerant and accepting than Hitler. Yeah, I know it can be kind of a dog whistle when it's used for "anyone who expresses an opinion that's vaguely on the left about anything". I would argue my use of it wrt to the Academy is legitimate though because they've kinda done it for decades, giving awards to things to make a point about how liberal/progressive they are when their actual practices really don't change much at all and they're clearly still a hoary, outdated instution of old gits with old git views. I do think it can be used when folks don't practice what they preach and it is now fairly common vernacular (for better or worse)
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Feb 27, 2019 02:52
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Kim Justice posted:Yeah, I know it can be kind of a dog whistle when it's used for "anyone who expresses an opinion that's vaguely on the left about anything". I would argue my use of it wrt to the Academy is legitimate though because they've kinda done it for decades, giving awards to things to make a point about how liberal/progressive they are when their actual practices really don't change much at all and they're clearly still a hoary, outdated instution of old gits with old git views. I do think it can be used when folks don't practice what they preach and it is now fairly common vernacular (for better or worse) yeah I wasn't knocking you for using it in this context I was just making a general comment about the term's usage lol
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Feb 27, 2019 02:59
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Augus posted:yeah I wasn't knocking you for using it in this context I was just making a general comment about the term's usage lol Oh no it's cool, I just know it's a loaded term and I like gabbing about it  I kinda wanna reclaim it because I think it does have uses. Folks in power and on the right certainly do it a lot, especially as they get more in step with social media...
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Feb 27, 2019 03:02
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It's also worth fighting over important terminology because reactionaries will always attempt to poison the well and if you don't push back then you quickly fall into situations where good faith criticism of certain topics becomes drat near impossible. and "virtue signaling" is absolutely the correct framing for why milquetoast, bad-egg racism narratives continue to be award show darlings.
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Feb 27, 2019 04:48
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Augus posted:the point that dan was making (which was conveniently cut short by the screencap) was that youtube is perfectly fine with people getting their videos spammed with dislikes for crimes such as "being a black woman" but suddenly cared when their own (terrible) video was spammed with dislikes for the crime of "not having pewdiepie in it" also the point is 8chan is in the news again and the chuds need to drag Dan because he tried to take them down (in my opinion 8chan still hosts child porn, doen't matter if it's in 3D and thus technically legal to 8chans provider)
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Feb 27, 2019 07:58
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Goa Tse-tung posted:also the point is 8chan is in the news again and the chuds need to drag Dan because he tried to take them down (in my opinion 8chan still hosts child porn, doen't matter if it's in 3D and thus technically legal to 8chans provider) I didn't even hear about this, but it looks like THQ Nordic hosted an AMA on 8chan? What in the loving were they thinking? Edit: Oh, quote:I personally agreed to this AMA without doing my proper due diligence to understand the history and the controversy of the site. I do not condone child pornography, white supremacy, or racism in any shape or form. I am terribly sorry for the short-sightedness of my (!) decision and promise to be far more vigorous in my assessment of these activities in the future. This was not about being edgy, this blew up and I very much regret to have done it in the first place. From their Marketing Director, a guy who has apparently never been to the internet before. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Feb 27, 2019 |
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Feb 27, 2019 08:14
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yeah that's transparent horseshit, his TL is full of replying to and retweeting 8chan chuds and the tone of the AMA is absolutely someone who knows what that place is about
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Feb 27, 2019 09:06
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They haven't even taken down the link to the 8chan AMA. It's OK, though, Mark took care of all the nasty stuff.
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Feb 27, 2019 09:17
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On one hand, its funny when a company does some kind of outreach in a place that hasn't been sanitized and made as "safe" as possible like this... but on the other hand its on 8chan.
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Feb 27, 2019 09:36
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Archer666 posted:On one hand, its funny when a company does some kind of outreach in a place that hasn't been sanitized and made as "safe" as possible like this... but on the other hand its on 8chan. What kinda examples of that are you thinking about?
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Feb 27, 2019 10:20
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RareAcumen posted:What kinda examples of that are you thinking about? SA's helicopter dick crashing of a Second Life event comes to mind.
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Feb 27, 2019 10:58
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Skippy McPants posted:I didn't even hear about this, but it looks like THQ Nordic hosted an AMA on 8chan? I, too, routinely leap like a gazelle into the waiting arms of websites without even the tiniest bit of scrutinizing them beforehand.
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Feb 27, 2019 13:43
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Dawgstar posted:I, too, routinely leap like a gazelle into the waiting arms of websites without even the tiniest bit of scrutinizing them beforehand. And good for you for paying  to stay and post afterwards! 
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Feb 27, 2019 13:47
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Dabir posted:yeah that's transparent horseshit, his TL is full of replying to and retweeting 8chan chuds and the tone of the AMA is absolutely someone who knows what that place is about Yeah. That knew exactly what they were doing.
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Feb 27, 2019 14:13
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Neddy Seagoon posted:And good for you for paying Roll_Safe.gif here!
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Feb 27, 2019 14:26
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3xdmcViDK0 Civvie looks at SUNSHINE AND KITTENS, the ultimate game about BEING NICE and DOING GOOD.
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Feb 27, 2019 17:46
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That video felt like a 20 minute version of that screencap of the Amazon page for a certain "scooter fuel filter" that had people ask about their own small bike engines that needed run well and smoothly with 9mm and .22 type fuel intakes.
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Feb 27, 2019 18:38
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I have to say Kunsypt, you have a certain way with metaphors and similes that makes me smile even if I really have no idea at all what you're saying half of the time.
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Feb 27, 2019 19:35
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Oh, I was referring to this image! If you don't get it: The "filter" can be easily modded to a weapon silencer and most of the questions are people wondering if this can be retrofitted into their respective guns.
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Feb 27, 2019 19:53
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Ah, I hadn't seen that. Well, thanks!
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Feb 27, 2019 19:56
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Nick Nocturne is going to do a 3-hour video series on House of Leaves and he challenges viewers to read the entirety of House of Leaves before he launches his series in 9 days. I could use with some incentive to get off my butt and actually read that book but speedrunning a book sounds like a bad idea. Rushing through it seems like a good way to get lost in the story or miss so many cool details. Speeding through a book sounds like something you should only do on your own terms.
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Feb 28, 2019 02:01
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hoo boy, House of Leaves. I read that book while at a really poo poo temp job once and kinda got lost in it. Fun read, could probably have done without the sex scenes.
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Feb 28, 2019 02:21
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Matthewmatosis returns the dead and reviews something more visually stimulating than a Zachtronics game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRA1QTTAxys
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Feb 28, 2019 02:29
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DoubleCakes posted:Nick Nocturne is going to do a 3-hour video series on House of Leaves and he challenges viewers to read the entirety of House of Leaves before he launches his series in 9 days. You probably could get through it in 9 days, depending on how much free time you had. It's not as long as it seems.
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Feb 28, 2019 02:40
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I just read the bit with the house. What did I miss by skipping Johnny?
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Feb 28, 2019 02:46
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I just read the bit with the house. What did I miss by skipping Johnny? The ramblings of a horny schizophrenic
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Feb 28, 2019 02:47
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House of Leaves isn't as intimidating as it looks since a bunch of the pages don't actually have much text on them once the layouts start getting symbolic. I'm interested in what Nick would have to say, it might almost be enough to get me to check him out again, but my gut says that he'll just get hung up on some minor detail and drag it out forever. I'd love to hear a good breakdown of it, but most people just get hung up on "look how weird it is, isn't that crazy?"
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Feb 28, 2019 02:55
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It's been a while since I read it but it seemed reasonably straightforward in its themes, just with the added complication of two stories at once and a bunch of metatextual goofiness. And I guess the fact that one of the stories is narrated by a guy with a serious mental illness so it gets hard to tell what the hell is going on in reality. I enjoyed the half that wasn't about Jonny, but then I'm just into weird fictional texts like that.
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Feb 28, 2019 03:00
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The house story line is the only one really worth paying attention to.
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Feb 28, 2019 03:27
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oh hey my book club's reading that this semester imo there's some interesting stuff (and real beautiful prose) in the johnny poo poo but there's also way too many sex scenes; but still not enough to justify skipping it entirely
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Feb 28, 2019 03:45
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deciphering that one letter of mrs. truant's by hand was probably more trouble than it was worth but still a memorable  moment when the full message took shape
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Feb 28, 2019 04:01
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All right fine I’ll read the thing. But probably not that fast. Had it sitting around for ages.
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Feb 28, 2019 04:32
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House Of Leaves? More like Heaps Of Footnotes hahaha. I have the black and white paperback version I read once and the best I can recall of it is guy going crazy transcribing notes of a guy going crazy transcribing a home video of a hallway going crazy. It's been a while but I think that's the gist of it. It's interesting.
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Feb 28, 2019 05:16
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I wrote a research paper on House of Leaves and god do I love how it refuses to obey stuff like "canon". It's nestled layers of fiction, none of which hold up under CinemaSins-style scrutiny but all of which are brilliant and maintain the themes of uncertainty, loss, and parenthood. s real good. If Night Mind fucks up and tries to "explain" the plot like a puzzle-box he's gonna ruin it for so many impressionable people.
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