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Book 10: THE AES SEDAI CHAPTERS WON’T STOP
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Mar 6, 2019 06:20
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bitprophet posted:Literally just got to this part and uhhhhh. Robert, my man. We need to talk. It does get explained later on. There are several reasons why it had to be her, and also several reasons why nobody tells Egwene their motivation for choosing her. Egwene herself was likely just too overwhelmed to as why.
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Mar 6, 2019 07:55
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bitprophet posted:Literally just got to this part and uhhhhh. Robert, my man. We need to talk. I felt completely blind-sided by that as well, but it does make a lot of sense when you learn more. RAFO.
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Mar 6, 2019 13:27
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That also reminds me of one of the pitfalls of audiobooks: you lose all the jokes involving creative re-spellings of names and such. Like in an audiobook doesn't Amyrlin just sound so much like "Merlin" that the cleverness of the allusion gets lost? I listened to the latter few Harry Potter books via audio and it was totally lost on me that Kreacher's name was not spelled "Creature"; I was like daaamn that's a little on the nose
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Mar 6, 2019 13:47
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I... never picked up on that. I'd like to say it's because I started out reading them so I knew how it was spelled / what the readers were saying, but honestly I don't think I would've put those two together anyways.
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Mar 6, 2019 13:55
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Torrannor posted:It does get explained later on. There are several reasons why it had to be her, and also several reasons why nobody tells Egwene their motivation for choosing her. Egwene herself was likely just too overwhelmed to as why. Also, mind blown at Amyrlin == Merlin, which is hilarious because I'd been seeing all the other Arthurian references recently (Artur Hawkwing's pretty clear, the Sword in the Stone is a bit too on the nose, Caemlyn probably == Camelot, etc).
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Mar 6, 2019 14:29
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bitprophet posted:the Sword in the Stone is a bit too on the nose gently caress I'm dense. I mean, I picked up on the "he who pulls it out" part. But drat, it really is right there.
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Mar 6, 2019 14:43
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bitprophet posted:A chapter later the background reasons came out (tl;dr a useful puppet) and yea, clearly she was overwhelmed, but it still really broke immersion for me. Anybody in that position (like, think an 18yo Congressional aide suddenly appointed Speaker of the House or heck, elected President) would be wondering why first thing! Not "oh goodness! lucky me! can I do it??? I'm totally gonna do it!" and I'd expect the other Aes Sedai to be, not just playing games behind the scenes, but outright revolting. To say nothing of Galad, Gawyn, Morgase, Damodred, Elayne, and hell, Nynaeve
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Mar 6, 2019 14:53
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Moraine and Morgaine aren't too far apart, either.
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Mar 6, 2019 15:34
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Galad is obviously Galahad, but what are all the other names influenced by / based on?
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Mar 6, 2019 15:56
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Sab669 posted:Galad is obviously Galahad, but what are all the other names influenced by / based on? Grabbed this list from Reddit, even it's only partial: quote:Rand as Artur Hawkwing, the dragon reborn -- King Arthur/Hawking unites the kingdom, etc
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Mar 6, 2019 16:10
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Then there's the references to the First Age being our own. Like Lenn who "flew to the moon in the belly of an eagle made of fire" and Mosk the Giant, who "wielded a lance of fire which could reach around the world". https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/First_Age
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Mar 6, 2019 16:30
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Sab669 posted:I... never picked up on that. I'd like to say it's because I started out reading them so I knew how it was spelled / what the readers were saying, but honestly I don't think I would've put those two together anyways. I was a myth junky as a teenager and WoT had so many references it was like constant Easter eggs reading the books. After the first few i started hunting for others; Amrylin, Tar Valon, Ogier and the Trolloc tribes, gholam, the tree of life, all sorts of things have neat connections to other real world cultures and sometimes make even more sense in context. Even then I'm sure I missed a bunch of the East Asian myths and references. Edit: Merc (America) and Mosc(ow), two giants who fought with lances of light, or the Mercedes Benz symbol feeling saturated with greed DarkHorse fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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Mar 6, 2019 18:21
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So many months later, I finally finished Stormlight 3. Does anyone have a handy resource that explains all the Cosmere links? I always end up forgetting the other books as I read up on them, but especially I want the Warbreaker links to Stormlight 3 explained.
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Mar 7, 2019 21:01
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coppermind.net for all things Sanderson
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Mar 7, 2019 21:07
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"Yes, Lady Vin," Sazed said. "You see, Tindwyl spent most of her life as a Terris mother." Vin hesitated, hand in pocket, looking surprised. "You mean... she was a Breeder?" Sazed nodded. The Lord Ruler's breeding program included selecting a few, special individuals to use for birthing new children—with the goal being to breed Feruchemy out of the population. "Tindwyl had, at last count, birthed over twenty children," he said. "Each with a different father. Tindwyl had her first child when she was fourteen, and spent her entire life being taken repeatedly by strange men until she became pregnant. And, because of the fertility drugs the Breeding masters forced upon her, she often bore twins or triplets." "I... see," Vin said softly.
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Mar 8, 2019 10:53
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Do you have a point?
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Mar 8, 2019 11:02
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rafikki posted:Then there's the references to the First Age being our own. Like Lenn who "flew to the moon in the belly of an eagle made of fire" and Mosk the Giant, who "wielded a lance of fire which could reach around the world". Still lollin at the wisdom of Ann Landers reverberating through the millennia
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Mar 8, 2019 13:37
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Torrannor posted:Do you have a point? The Bonfire thread is getting itself worked up about Sanderson again and there is some spillover.
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Mar 8, 2019 16:06
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wizzardstaff posted:The Bonfire thread is getting itself worked up about Sanderson again and there is some spillover. Why is organized trolling of one thread by another thread even tolerated.
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Mar 8, 2019 16:12
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Just don't engage with it.
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Mar 8, 2019 16:44
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I dont see a positive statement there Bolt.
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Mar 10, 2019 08:18
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Cool, the Audible app crashes when I try to play this one part of Gathering Storm. Rebooted, still does it. Tried fast forwarding 30-60 sec and it still crashes 
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Mar 11, 2019 01:25
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Sab669 posted:Cool, the Audible app crashes when I try to play this one part of Gathering Storm. The prose is too radical and powerful for any audio software to handle
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Mar 11, 2019 01:30
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Try redownloading it. I've had a few cases where books on audible were missing entire chapters when the download got interrupted.
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Mar 11, 2019 03:05
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COOL so I got around to redownloading it, and that wiped out my progress. Not sure what chapter I was on. gently caress.
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Mar 13, 2019 01:48
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Sab669 posted:COOL so I got around to redownloading it, and that wiped out my progress. Yeah Audible sucks, problem is that so does every other Audiobook platform, either too expensive or lacking content.
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Mar 13, 2019 02:37
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Sab669 posted:COOL so I got around to redownloading it, and that wiped out my progress. What was happening in the last chapter you heard? Maybe we can figure out where you were.
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Mar 13, 2019 03:47
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Sab669 posted:COOL so I got around to redownloading it, and that wiped out my progress. Sorry you’re going to have to re-listen to the 3 hour bath as penance.
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Mar 13, 2019 05:07
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Fezz posted:What was happening in the last chapter you heard? Maybe we can figure out where you were. I'm not sure what the most recent thing was. Thanks though  I just skipped to Chapter 21 or 22 and it was Matt complaining to Talmanas about how arguing with women is like gambling with them. Then he proceeded to go on at length about how women will cheat you at dice for the next 25 minutes.I like Talamanas' dry wit in response, though. "Are you making sport of me?" "I wouldn't dream of it, Master Cauthon" I know I listened to this part already, but none of the Chapter Names ring a bell so I don't want to skip too far ahead... so good enough, I suppose. e; oh look at that. Lamps was banned.
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Mar 13, 2019 12:33
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Oh yeah, that part was funny. I remember reading that and thinking “god drat, wish this Sanderson guy had written the whole thing”
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Mar 13, 2019 14:51
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Sab669 posted:e; oh look at that. Lamps was banned.
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Mar 13, 2019 15:12
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now that's simply not true, Lamps also got into slap fights in Cinema Discusso about comic book movies. his effort posts were legit really good and you're doing yourself a disservice not to read them. do Sanderson's books have maps in the front?
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Mar 13, 2019 15:18
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I'm on book 14. And the one super long chapter is amazing.
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Mar 13, 2019 15:20
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As stated in the other thread:The_White_Crane posted:>90% of Botl's posts were the equivalent of elbowing your way into a circle of people talking about $thing and shouting "$thing sucks and you're all dumb for liking it!" then immediately running out of the room.
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Mar 13, 2019 15:35
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my bony fealty posted:do Sanderson's books have maps in the front? Most of them do, yes.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:03
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my bony fealty posted:do Sanderson's books have maps in the front? I think all of the books that do also have the art available on his website under the Artwork section
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Mar 13, 2019 16:13
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I think that's the single worst thing about listening to WoT on audiobook. There's 4000 different places and I have absolutely no idea where any of them are. I googled a map back during book 1 or 2, but that was when I was actually reading them. Now, while listening to the audiobooks on my commute, I'll think to myself "alright let me google where that place is when I get to work," but when I actually get there, I forgot about it already.
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Mar 13, 2019 16:30
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my bony fealty posted:now that's simply not true, Lamps also got into slap fights in Cinema Discusso about comic book movies. his effort posts were legit really good and you're doing yourself a disservice not to read them. How do we filter out the ones where he was a disingenuous snob telling people that they were bad for enjoying the wrong things the wrong way? Because frankly that sounds like a lot of effort.
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Mar 13, 2019 19:46
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The ones where he read books he didn't like for days and then posted 2000 word literary critiques with comparisons to other works are the effort posts, hth
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Mar 13, 2019 20:01
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