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drgitlin posted:This seems plausible: http://blog.quirkyllama.org/2019/03/the-vin-gap-hypothesis.html Not sure how much I trust this person. quote:It's not Elon's m.o. to lie outright
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I suspect we'll see automated semi rigs on freeways in our lifetime; better and more consistent roads, less variables, consistent traffic flows, limited decision making on well-documented and maintained roads, much lower risk of encountering pedestrians. Even with some number of failures it will probably be a wash or better than human drivers with the risk of falling asleep or messing up. Hopefully what ends up happening are dedicated off-ramps (instead of them trying to navigate city streets) for them are made in to large metro shipping districts for offload and local distribution but I still think we could do better with trains if we had a government that wasn't dogshit. actually we are all gonna eat poo poo in the ecological crises of the next few decades, op
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Rockopolis posted:A)It's a fake, the nipples aren't pointy enough. the rock had a boob job a while ago
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fart simpson posted:actually we are all gonna eat poo poo in the ecological crises of the next few decades, op centuries the ecological crises of the next few centuries the heat is already here. the effects are not going to like, plateau and then get simpler. the water is going to keep rising for centuries to come based on what has already occurred.
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Jimmy Carter posted:self-driving cars are a symptom of our horrible urban design, not a solution. lol no they aren't firstly, self-driving cars don't exist
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fishmech posted:lol no they aren't we just went over this, we know
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:centuries 
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:i wonder if there's any way to get an explanation or basis for why that az sherrif's office determined there's no criminal liability for the ped they slaughtered. very clearly the software was inadequate. what chain of reasoning would lead you to their conclusion and why wouldn't it be open to examination? it was a homeless person, op
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:as we have discussed several times the one and only reason to do over the road trucking is ease of pickup and delivery my whistleblower friend says that their motivation is entirely about safety but yeah in practice i'd imagine that such a """"highway safe"""" system would simply be used to drive down wages while still requiring a (vigilant) driver in the cab
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there should be a law that the president cannot get your name wrong, whatever he calls you becomes your name
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Gazpacho posted:there should be a law that the president cannot get your name wrong, whatever he calls you becomes your name reminder about Turd Blossom.
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Sagebrush posted:oh and someone in the ev thread made a bunch of dicksucking posts a few months ago about how teslas are the best cars ever in the winter because of electric traction control and low cg and such, and how all these things about the trunk lid dumping snow into the trunk or the door handles freezing closed or the windows having to be popped open whenever it's below freezing are just FUD and normal on any car link please
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Gazpacho posted:there should be a law that the president cannot get your name wrong, whatever he calls you becomes your name hm, no
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:i wonder if there's any way to get an explanation or basis for why that az sherrif's office determined there's no criminal liability for the ped they slaughtered. very clearly the software was inadequate. what chain of reasoning would lead you to their conclusion and why wouldn't it be open to examination? because it'd be complicated as gently caress to prove that in court and they don't want to spend enormous amounts of money on expert witnesses on a manslaughter case they're probably going to lose because the jury was too confused all this means is that they couldn't get someone inside uber to go on the record saying that he coded it to murder people or some such.
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hobbesmaster posted:because it'd be complicated as gently caress to prove that in court and they don't want to spend enormous amounts of money on expert witnesses on a manslaughter case they're probably going to lose because the jury was too confused I assume it’s some contractor loophole but the driver was watching tv on his/her phone right? if you act criminally negligent while at work isn’t the company supposed to be on the hook? in terms of payouts and whatnot at least
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i don't see that that matters a whole lot, the (single, poorly trained and monitored) safety driver setup seems a very flimsy safety net if one assumes that the actual self-driving isn't safe in itself (and indeed i think that is the correct conclusion)
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:no amount of sensors are sufficient. the technology does not exist to do this work with the necessary accuracy to not get people killed. these things should not be on public roads and that point should be decades from now. the neural networks they are using to process the sensor data are nondeterministic dogshit and have no business driving cars. but enough about human drivers
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BobHoward posted:(if Jobs hadn’t tried to collect too much rent on ieee 1394 aka FireWire we might have had native internal FireWire HDDs and other devices with standardized hot plug bay form factors in the late 1990s and early oughts)
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i could imagine a hybrid solution with the self driving trucks that mostly handle straight highways thru the middle of the country, with a human driver as a backup, but operating remotely from a computer where he monitors multiple trucks at once
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:i wonder if there's any way to get an explanation or basis for why that az sherrif's office determined there's no criminal liability for the ped they slaughtered. very clearly the software was inadequate. what chain of reasoning would lead you to their conclusion and why wouldn't it be open to examination? in the US, a person getting run over by a car rarely results in any criminal charge. welp that's my explanation
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christ how are they not even getting charged gently caress human life, just disable all the limiters and let the ai sort them out
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it may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get rich on vc cash, so, it;s impossible to say if its bad or not
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suffix posted:christ how are they not even getting charged that's weird, the AI seems to prefer killing minorities and poor people because it never saw them in the training set of "human being (do not kill)" so it assumes they're hostile space aliens, oh well i suppose it knows what it's doing, it's an algorithm after all it can't be racist
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i could imagine a hybrid solution with the self driving trucks that mostly handle straight highways thru the middle of the country, with a human driver as a backup, but operating remotely from a computer where he monitors multiple trucks at once who's paying for the connectivity, ensuring it stays up, and how are you handling all the compounding lag
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suffix posted:christ how are they not even getting charged in america, car murders are a special category of murders that don't really count. there's really nothing more to it than that.
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my grandma died because a semi truck was doing an illegal u-turn on the interstate with his lights off while it was still dark out and my grandpa slammed into them at full speed the driver got a ticket for doing an illegal u-turn
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one of bikesnobnyc's recurring blog bits was recent new of drivers in the NYC area plowing through pedestrians/cyclists and them never facing any consequences sidewalks, bike lanes, greenways -- nothing would protect them he had pretty regular content from this he also had a post where he had captured a car with diplomatic plates driving across a pedestrian bridge to avoid regular bridge traffic; i wish I could find that one again
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Shame Boy posted:my grandma died because a semi truck was doing an illegal u-turn on the interstate with his lights off while it was still dark out and my grandpa slammed into them at full speed Why are our police forces worthless
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maybe if cops didn't spend their whole day in cars they'd identify more with pedestrians
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Potato Salad posted:Why are our police forces worthless because following up on that type of crime isn't their job
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suffix posted:it may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get rich on vc cash, so, it;s Good
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lancemantis posted:because following up on that type of crime isn't their job what is c&r
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Shame Boy posted:my grandma died because a semi truck was doing an illegal u-turn on the interstate with his lights off while it was still dark out and my grandpa slammed into them at full speed this is a bad christmas jingle
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Shame Boy posted:my grandma died because a semi truck was doing an illegal u-turn on the interstate with his lights off while it was still dark out and my grandpa slammed into them at full speed seems like your grandpa should have got a ticket too for having tesla-level vision
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lancemantis posted:he also had a post where he had captured a car with diplomatic plates driving across a pedestrian bridge to avoid regular bridge traffic; i wish I could find that one again I thought shaggar was from Maine?
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fishmech posted:seems like your grandpa should have got a ticket too for having tesla-level vision dude wtf
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DELETE CASCADE posted:maybe if cops didn't spend their whole day in cars they'd identify more with pedestrians Okay, fine, we’ll let them ride around on horses.
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ADINSX posted:I thought shaggar was from Maine?
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ADINSX posted:I thought shaggar was from Maine?
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