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Sickening posted:Purchasing vp in Finance: We see the opportunity to lower costs of licensing in office 365 by reducing the number of e3 licenses to k1. Sickening, can you decide which parts of the company we can we downgrade to a lower license? If they ask again, just tell them the finance department can be downgraded to a license type that does not include email. Problem solved.
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I assisted a user in initiating a name change request today since she got married and wants her e-mail to reflect her new name. This is what I got back from the accounts team:quote:As policy, we typically do not offer a change in username unless there is an extreme circumstance, such as bitter divorce, custody battle, etc. When we do entertain the possibility of a change, we cannot proceed unless we have the approval of our Security department. Are you loving kidding me?
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Mar 7, 2019 22:12
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Vargatron posted:I assisted a user in initiating a name change request today since she got married and wants her e-mail to reflect her new name. This is what I got back from the accounts team: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlbrL1H1ngs&t=46s
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Mar 7, 2019 22:18
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Vargatron posted:I assisted a user in initiating a name change request today since she got married and wants her e-mail to reflect her new name. This is what I got back from the accounts team: That’s asinine and lazy. Marriage is specifically called out as a reason to change records from HR to computer accounts in our handbook. Hell, we’ll even add email aliases for people who go by a nickname or use their middle name.
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Mar 7, 2019 22:25
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So I was doing a subnet scan on a /16 on one of our networks that has a little end to end MPLS between them and one other site, and started getting replies from some subnets we definitely aren't using.. Did a traceroute and saw that it was going over the providers public network... Ended up logging into a switch for some car dealership with default credentials. We opened up a ticket with this carrier to ask them wtf is going on and the tech started making GBS threads his pants, 'uhh its been like this for over 7 weeks as far as i can tell'. Lol this one customer of theirs is having their poo poo advertised to every single other customer they have, and at least one of their network devices uses default creds! I wonder if the provider's gonna notify that customer because good lord.
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Mar 7, 2019 22:28
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Vargatron posted:I assisted a user in initiating a name change request today since she got married and wants her e-mail to reflect her new name. This is what I got back from the accounts team:
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Mar 7, 2019 22:41
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Got a promotion and a near 10% raise at my annual review today. 
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Mar 7, 2019 22:55
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Well, I am not qualified for the $80k WFH job I spoke to the recruiter/department head about, but he sent me one with another company that he's recruiting for (they have a consultancy department and a recruiting department) that I would be a perfect fit for. Still $70k per year and WFH. I'll push for a little bit more if I can, but I'd even take less than $70k. Not that I'm telling them that. Saving an hour per day in commute time and 50 miles per day in gas and wear and tear is a pretty big benefit by itself, as well as having my kitchen 30 seconds away so I don't have to buy lunch or go hungry when I forget to bring it.
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Mar 7, 2019 22:57
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devmd01 posted:Got a promotion and a near 10% raise at my annual review today. Congratulations!
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Well, I am not qualified for the $80k WFH job I spoke to the recruiter/department head about, but he sent me one with another company that he's recruiting for (they have a consultancy department and a recruiting department) that I would be a perfect fit for. Still $70k per year and WFH. I'll push for a little bit more if I can, but I'd even take less than $70k. Not that I'm telling them that. Saving an hour per day in commute time and 50 miles per day in gas and wear and tear is a pretty big benefit by itself, as well as having my kitchen 30 seconds away so I don't have to buy lunch or go hungry when I forget to bring it. This is worth so much more than people realize. Good luck!
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Mar 7, 2019 22:58
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Vulture Culture posted:Gonna be cool when you deadname a trans employee and they sue you iirc that's still not a protected class /e- although not being a dick is the right move regardless of whether it's to avoid a lawsuit
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Mar 7, 2019 23:07
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I’m still mad that they took WFH from us because there is no company policy saying so. Really it’s because the help desk manager complained to the new director because he couldn’t WFH and us system admins can. It’s so dumb.
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Mar 7, 2019 23:10
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Sickening posted:Purchasing vp in Finance: We see the opportunity to lower costs of licensing in office 365 by reducing the number of e3 licenses to k1. Sickening, can you decide which parts of the company we can we downgrade to a lower license? Squeeze ops for downgrade candidates and present it as your own initiative
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Mar 7, 2019 23:31
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Vargatron posted:I assisted a user in initiating a name change request today since she got married and wants her e-mail to reflect her new name. This is what I got back from the accounts team: I hear in these parts that no email system permits changing/creating aliases without changing username too
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Mar 7, 2019 23:34
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Proteus Jones posted:This is worth so much more than people realize. Yeah. Assuming even 25 cents car expenses per mile since my car is fuel-efficient, low maintenance, and 10 years old, that's $62.50 a week (I think), maybe a bit higher since I think it's actually 26 or 27 miles or something to my last job. Over 48 weeks per year (assuming 4 weeks for holidays, WFH for snow, and time off) that's $3k post-tax right there. Assuming I spend like $30 per month on lunch since i would just hit McDonalds for a couple McChickens usually that's another couple hundred saved even after considering the cost of eating at home. If I got actually good food it would be way more. And if I valued my time at $35/hr like the pay effectively is (which isn't fair since I can't get paid more for it) that would be another $8400.
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Mar 7, 2019 23:48
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Vargatron posted:I assisted a user in initiating a name change request today since she got married and wants her e-mail to reflect her new name. This is what I got back from the accounts team: I know where they're coming from; a lot of apps that use single sign-on do not deal with name changes well, though that is the incorrect way to approach it. The correct way to approach it is "listen, we can do this, but it could break a lot of stuff. We're happy to change your display names and aliases and email addresses, so the name everyone sees will be your new name. We can try changing your user name, but it may very well break a lot of things." Windows handles it just fine, usually, it's the attached apps that are the issue. It's lovely, and that is most definitely not the way to go about it, but I can see why they'd want to avoid it. Vulture Culture posted:Gonna be cool when you deadname a trans employee and they sue you
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Mar 8, 2019 00:04
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Thanatosian posted:I know where they're coming from; a lot of apps that use single sign-on do not deal with name changes well, though that is the incorrect way to approach it. The correct way to approach it is "listen, we can do this, but it could break a lot of stuff. We're happy to change your display names and aliases and email addresses, so the name everyone sees will be your new name. We can try changing your user name, but it may very well break a lot of things." Windows handles it just fine, usually, it's the attached apps that are the issue. Why is that not an issue? And in general , gently caress that, if your archaic legacy systems can't handle a username change, make them a brand new account. As someone in security, that's bs. If someone legally changes their name, you absolutely don't keep around their old name for a variety of reasons.
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Mar 8, 2019 00:16
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give employees their employee ID as login name with aliases attached to it, to reinforce that they are in fact just a faceless numbered cog in an uncaring machine and to curtail messy account changes forever.
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Mar 8, 2019 00:16
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Ugh I can still remember my YXY---- username.
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Mar 8, 2019 00:17
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Yeah. Assuming even 25 cents car expenses per mile since my car is fuel-efficient, low maintenance, and 10 years old, that's $62.50 a week (I think), maybe a bit higher since I think it's actually 26 or 27 miles or something to my last job. Over 48 weeks per year (assuming 4 weeks for holidays, WFH for snow, and time off) that's $3k post-tax right there. Assuming I spend like $30 per month on lunch since i would just hit McDonalds for a couple McChickens usually that's another couple hundred saved even after considering the cost of eating at home. If I got actually good food it would be way more. And if I valued my time at $35/hr like the pay effectively is (which isn't fair since I can't get paid more for it) that would be another $8400. Sent in a revised resume and the recruiter said it's exactly what he wanted to see. At first he said I should expand on what I did a lot because I was fitting 2 years of work into 3 bullet points so I kept it on one page. Now it's nearly two pages long but it covers pretty much everything I did and hits all of the desired qualifications they listed. I know someone is going to say that if I have everything they want I'm overqualified, but I'm underqualified for the other positions in this field and it would still be a significant raise with the additional bonus of the WFH, when I'm currently unemployed.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Why is that not an issue? I don't really see a username being different from the person's legal name being that big of a deal security-wise if it's not a big deal for the person. We let people use nicknames and preferred names in Skype and Email all the time. Hell, we have some apps that break when you move the person's object in Active Directory. And these are not "archaic, legacy" apps. These are apps we bought within the last three years.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Why is that not an issue? This would have been the solution I would have proposed. Just generate a brand new user account and disable the old one. I would have been fine with "our LDAP programs may not handle this name change" but the whole "we can't do this unless it's an extreme circumstance" is just bullshit to me. This should have been an alias addition at the Exchange level. Oh well, I communicated the issue up to a department level manager who made the appropriate calls. Funny how policies suddenly become flexible when a high level director gets involved.
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Username change would gently caress me. I also don’t have my personal poo poo setup in ldap but yeah. It would hurt if I changed my username in Linux.
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There’s a ton of software that uses the users name or initial email address as an anchor, key or in claims as the NameIdentifer. This has been a terrible idea and changing it without breaking anything takes an astronomically amount of effort for little benefit. Some of parts of SharePoint, OneDrive, AzureAD, etc. just started supporting that this year but given how they often plug into the other applications most admins will have no choice but to leave that disabled.
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I knew someone that transitioned who changed the name she wanted to something so she could keep her login name. She was originally going for let’s say Jessica but took a Brittany name to keep her b(last name) login
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Mar 8, 2019 04:55
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jaegerx posted:I knew someone that transitioned who changed the name she wanted to something so she could keep her login name. We live in a dystopia.
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Mar 8, 2019 05:07
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:iirc that's still not a protected class Thanatosian posted:Most places I've worked use last name/first initial, so this isn't an issue. jaegerx posted:I knew someone that transitioned who changed the name she wanted to something so she could keep her login name.
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Mar 8, 2019 05:08
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Vulture Culture posted:Well, if my name was Robert Oot I'd want to keep that login name too ok ootobert
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Mar 8, 2019 05:31
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Docjowles posted:Are you comfortable just talking to the relevant people directly? Tell them point blank that you really wanted to be involved in this and ask why you weren't. This probably the best way to approach it. Let’s see what’ll happen.
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Tab8715 posted:There’s a ton of software that uses the users name or initial email address as an anchor, key or in claims as the NameIdentifer. People need to stop using PII as primary keys and switch to GUIDs loving everywhere. But that's just my opinion.
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For a company size of 70k our username standards are very laissez-faire. My login is my last name, friends is half his last name, coworker is first initial half last name, and our boss is first initial last name, a dash and random 3 digits 
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If your software relies on someones username remaining constant for the duration of use, don't have your username format based on something that changes. Or am I missing something
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angry armadillo posted:If your software relies on someones username remaining constant for the duration of use, don't have your username format based on something that changes. Just the fact that humans often need to reference usernames and verbally at that, so GUIDS are great as a canonical reference but it doesnt solve the username/reuse issue it just moves the discussion to aliases, and software still binds to emails
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Sepist posted:For a company size of 70k our username standards are very laissez-faire. My login is my last name, friends is half his last name, coworker is first initial half last name, and our boss is first initial last name, a dash and random 3 digits IT Archaeology, dating user account age by the naming standards of the time.
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angry armadillo posted:If your software relies on someones username remaining constant for the duration of use, don't have your username format based on something that changes. You aren’t. Employee numbers!
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Mar 8, 2019 14:36
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PCjr sidecar posted:IT Archaeology, dating user account age by the naming standards of the time. at my last job the 40 year old accounts are just 3 digits and a letter noting your department.
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Mar 8, 2019 14:46
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Ask Sarah Hitchcock how much she loves our scheme of first initial last name.
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PCjr sidecar posted:IT Archaeology, dating user account age by the naming standards of the time. Just cut the bits open and count the rings
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PCjr sidecar posted:IT Archaeology, dating user account age by the naming standards of the time. I stand out at work because I did whole month on service desk over 15 years ago. Back then you got to pick your userID, so mine is my initials. A three-character ID stands out a bit among newer accounts..
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We just switched to last six digits of employeeID for samaccountname for new accounts going forward. Good timing, as we just acquired a whole bunch more users that needed to be provisioned.
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