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Leal
Oct 2, 2009

watho posted:

Internet Personality + Review Thread: Wank Material Is Fascism

Porn IS fascism after all

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Hemingway To Go! posted:

speaking of movies, Nyx Fears has a new video talking about some of her favorite movies about ghosts and thinking about if ghosts are real or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUSAfaC0yUU

Can confirm that Lake Mungo is amazing. Its one of my top ten favorite films period. It’s perfectly made beginning to end.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
I'm not sure where to put this but the guy who *did the sword and scale podcast is going on a huge babby meltdown after being fired for calling women cunts on international women's day, among other extremely stupid/misogynistic/homophobic comments, check out the sub reddit or the sword and scale twitter while you can

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Do it ironically posted:

I'm not sure where to put this but the guy who *did the sword and scale podcast is going on a huge babby meltdown after being fired for calling women cunts on international women's day, among other extremely stupid/misogynistic/homophobic comments, check out the sub reddit or the sword and scale twitter while you can

Do you have some screencaps or links?

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Do you have some screencaps or links?

Wondery Drops ‘Sword & Scale’ Podcast After Host Mike Boudet’s ‘Dumb C–ts’ Comment

And duder's twitter account, for posterity where he is still having an amazing rage meltdown over it.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos



I, too, will now communicate with the public only through soundcloud.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Absurd Alhazred posted:



I, too, will now communicate with the public only through soundcloud.

His own personal twitter is also screaming delight to read and a master class in how not to handle a situation. Like, I have no idea who this guy is or what Sword and Scale was even about, but in the three minutes I have known about him, he seems like a giant rear end in a top hat.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I yell into cassette tapes and throw them at people.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
The subreddit's covering it well: https://www.reddit.com/r/SwordAndScale/

Unless I'm mixing it up, I think the subreddit actually kind of rebelled after some crazy drama and is independent from the podcast so it should be mostly fine, only saw one or two "free speech" people defending him.

Here's a summary of all the past built-up issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/SwordAndScale/comments/ayare1/is_there_a_summary_of_the_misgivings_of_mike/

Fun fact, apparently anyone ending their Patreon subscription in the past had to deal with his super pissy exit survey: https://imgur.com/a/TuDG2

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

There’s some lovely behavior on display there. I wouldn’t expect someone knowledgeable about crime to release victims’ full names, but I guess he’s the voyeur kind of true crime fan and not the sympathetic kind.

I can’t imagine anything more pathetic than expecting women to sleep with you because you have a famous podcast.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

There’s some lovely behavior on display there. I wouldn’t expect someone knowledgeable about crime to release victims’ full names, but I guess he’s the voyeur kind of true crime fan and not the sympathetic kind.

I can’t imagine anything more pathetic than expecting women to sleep with you because you have a famous podcast.

That and the fact that the statement that did him in was “I don’t understand dumb c—s. Maybe I should take one apart to see how it works.” really gives one the impression that this guy isn't so much a criminal historian as much as he is a serial killer fanboy.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
To be honest I had listened to some sword and scale but wasn't hugely into it, I tried the new podcast he did, but after the first series on the german cannibal they had an "aftershow" episode and the other guy who did the show with mike was making some really stupid homophobic comments with mike laughing about it, told me all I needed to know about both of them

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Oh, my.

https://twitter.com/SwordAndScale/status/1104545085134376961

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

FoldableHuman posted:

Anyway my classic VICE story is that they called me from Toronto at 6:45 am to ask me to buy supplies and then drive up to Edmonton (3 hour drive) to pick up a reporter and their camera op and drive them up to the forest fires in Fort McMurray (5 hours from Edmonton) for a location report that will last an unknown number of days. Oh and also can you be second camera and also can you mentor the reporter she's new and also can you be a general fixer and can you leave within the next two hours?

So I quote them my full day rate and they say "okay, yes, absolutely."

I go and do the job and it's miserable. It ends up taking four days, the camera op is a complete piece of garbage who drinks on the job and gets pissy when I don't park in the handicapped space "because it's closer." Anyway, it's an awful time, so I make sure I charge VICE for every last dime I spent. Couple days pass and I get a call from the producer I'd spoken to originally.

"Hi, yeah, I got your invoice, and this day rate is really high. We were wondering if you'd be willing to resubmit at (half what I'd quoted) and also we looked up what you made on the previous times you worked for us and it was way lower and you can't just give yourself a raise like that, you understand?"

"Well, what I made last time is irrelevant, those were for jobs where you wanted me to show up at a nightclub, watch a concert, and get a sound bite from the performers; this time you wanted me to drop everything and drive eight hours across the province into an active forest fire."

"Yeah, but you can't just give yourself a raise."

So it goes on like that with me trying to explain how, you know, freelance works for A While until I assure her in no uncertain terms that I won't be lowering my invoice. The producer then makes an impassioned plea because, you see, my day rate is fifty dollars over their day rate cap. Astute readers may notice that knowing VICE's day rate caps is both not my problem and not my job, but also that knowing VICE's day rate caps is both very much the producer's problem and quite explicitly her literal job.

She then lets me know that that will become my new rate "in the system" and because it's over cap they probably won't call me again.

"Do you think, after this conversation, I have any intent of working with you ever again?"

They did eventually pay it all and they haven't called me since.

This is a good read.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

nine-gear crow posted:

That and the fact that the statement that did him in was “I don’t understand dumb c—s. Maybe I should take one apart to see how it works.” really gives one the impression that this guy isn't so much a criminal historian as much as he is a serial killer fanboy.

If only he were British, he could have passed it off as frustration with stupid people. But alas (that and this meltdown + what appears to be lots of other crap)

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

He definitely means it in the Jack the Ripper sense.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Why is it that the biggest true crime podcast is also the grossest slimiest one. Like really if anyone listens to it they should just go with Casefiles instead.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


Terrible Opinions posted:

Why is it that the biggest true crime podcast is also the grossest slimiest one. Like really if anyone listens to it they should just go with Casefiles instead.

Sword and Scale is small change compared to My Favorite Murder, if we’re talking sheer audience.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


That exit survey is a thing of transcendent beauty :allears:

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Lumbermouth posted:

Sword and Scale is small change compared to My Favorite Murder, if we’re talking sheer audience.
Well I'll have to plead ignorance there. Glad to hear it's something else.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

he was always a massive piece of poo poo who always hovered and toed the border of chud bullshit. alot of other true crime groups hate him because he doesnt have any respect for the victims privacy and usually just plays 911 death calls in full. he also says some pretty lovely poo poo. last podcast on the left and small town dicks are much better and respectful.



yeah, he is a giant rear end in a top hat. in one of his newer episodes he spends the first 10 min or so bitching about divorce and talking about how true love is bullshit. the episodes subject was the chris watts case.

Absurd Alhazred posted:



I, too, will now communicate with the public only through soundcloud.

the whole thing tells you what he truly cares about. he has enough money and ad revinue to make a his show free but he is going full private with it. well that and being a giant douche.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Mar 10, 2019

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Lumbermouth posted:

Sword and Scale is small change compared to My Favorite Murder, if we’re talking sheer audience.

this. Sword and scale has kinda become the weird stunted red headed step child of true crime podcasts. people make fun of it more than praise it. all the true crime groups i am part of are loving cheering over this, this dude was loving HATED in the community.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Mar 10, 2019

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Terrible Opinions posted:

Why is it that the biggest true crime podcast is also the grossest slimiest one. Like really if anyone listens to it they should just go with Casefiles instead.

Abyss stares back etc etc and also giant assholes

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

huh weird that the "all schizophrenics are walking time bombs seconds away from mass killing sprees" guy said something bad

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
The True Crimes Podcast Community.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

ArfJason posted:

The True Crimes Podcast Community.

The facebook groups where they all post pictures of their cats are good.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The facebook groups where they all post pictures of their cats are good.

yeah the LPOTL community is pretty cool/progressive and friendly. they have a great pet groups too.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah the LPOTL community is pretty cool/progressive and friendly. they have a great pet groups too.

Which is hilarious because for the longest time they had probably about the worst reputation with the hosts doing weird lovely racist accents and generally acting kinda like wads about true crime stuff when it came up, but at some point they realized 'oh right there should be a different tone between 'these people think they're the REAL bigfoot hunter society and all others are fakers' and 'this guy raped and tortured women for a decade', even if both are in a comedy podcast. Now, yea, they probably are at least tied with My Favorite Murder for 'most solid fans in true crime podcast world' which is cool.

Sword and Scale sucked rear end, dude was a douchebag who loved to fearmonger about the mentally ill all being potential serial/spree killers, finding out he's even more of a shithead is the least surprising reveal.

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
I would love to rub cbd cream all over my body then go out and have some bud light limes with the LPOTL guys

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
As a lesson in community building, Last Podcast was helped out by Marcus outright telling Trump/alt-right fans to gently caress off, and Henry backing him up. I remember some little thread popping up in the subreddit where the dozen or so CHUDs left briefly raised their heads to complain about how hard it was to keep listening not long after the election. Plus part of Henry's new pseudo-Jungian philosophy mix is leaning hard into "we are what we pretend to be" which hopefully put the last nail in the coffin for his ironic racist accents.

They were also willing to basically disown their main Facebook group when it got really gross and bad.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


I feel like there's a pretty sharp divide in true crime fandom between atrocity tourists and actual bad people. I can't fathom tuning into a podcast because it plays full 911 calls.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

As a lesson in community building, Last Podcast was helped out by Marcus outright telling Trump/alt-right fans to gently caress off, and Henry backing him up. I remember some little thread popping up in the subreddit where the dozen or so CHUDs left briefly raised their heads to complain about how hard it was to keep listening not long after the election. Plus part of Henry's new pseudo-Jungian philosophy mix is leaning hard into "we are what we pretend to be" which hopefully put the last nail in the coffin for his ironic racist accents.

They were also willing to basically disown their main Facebook group when it got really gross and bad.

I know not every creator can exert that much control over their fans but when the podcast was such a personality based thing having the hosts very clearly go 'listen we were kinda shitheads before and we want to do better, if this somehow bothers you or you think this is a mistake to do you're welcome to leave because it's happening' really helped do a 180.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


ArfJason posted:

The True Crimes Podcast Community.

i'm glad i'm not the only one that had a reaction to that

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

there's a fuckin lot of true crimes podcasts

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea how are you just now finding out true crime is a huge interest topic

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
Uhhh excuse me, there is obviously a wide open niche in the uhhh *checks notes* southwest province of Russia true crime

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

sexpig by night posted:

Which is hilarious because for the longest time they had probably about the worst reputation with the hosts doing weird lovely racist accents and generally acting kinda like wads about true crime stuff when it came up, but at some point they realized 'oh right there should be a different tone between 'these people think they're the REAL bigfoot hunter society and all others are fakers' and 'this guy raped and tortured women for a decade', even if both are in a comedy podcast. Now, yea, they probably are at least tied with My Favorite Murder for 'most solid fans in true crime podcast world' which is cool.

Sword and Scale sucked rear end, dude was a douchebag who loved to fearmonger about the mentally ill all being potential serial/spree killers, finding out he's even more of a shithead is the least surprising reveal.

that was mostly henry and yeah, they have matured a ton since then thankfully. they also actually research poo poo better now.

if you think SAS dudes ableism is bad, you should see his sexism.


Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

As a lesson in community building, Last Podcast was helped out by Marcus outright telling Trump/alt-right fans to gently caress off, and Henry backing him up. I remember some little thread popping up in the subreddit where the dozen or so CHUDs left briefly raised their heads to complain about how hard it was to keep listening not long after the election. Plus part of Henry's new pseudo-Jungian philosophy mix is leaning hard into "we are what we pretend to be" which hopefully put the last nail in the coffin for his ironic racist accents.

They were also willing to basically disown their main Facebook group when it got really gross and bad.

this too. they hate reactionaries and toss them out on their asses and thankfully henry hasn't done the stupid accent poo poo in years now he just talks about how aliens are a psychic phenomenon and other weird poo poo, which i at least find interesting.


Lumbermouth posted:

I feel like there's a pretty sharp divide in true crime fandom between atrocity tourists and actual bad people. I can't fathom tuning into a podcast because it plays full 911 calls.

sword and scale was big into doing that. like full out ones that end with gunshots and screaming live leak level poo poo.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Mar 10, 2019

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

So what do you guys think the Chud Internet's response to Captain Marvel is going to be now that it's been revealed to be even more 'WOKE,' in subject matter than people thought it would and it's still going to break records, make 150 million this weekend and is already being heralded as "the savior of the 2019 box office," by mainstream sources? We all know how sure they were that they could kill Marvel with this movie just like they killed Star Wars and Battlefield* by screaming about SJW pandering and Get Woke Go Broke, so I'm just chomping at the bit to see how they try to spin this into a victory.




*Narrator: Star Wars and Battlefield were not killed

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Sanguinia posted:

So what do you guys think the Chud Internet's response to Captain Marvel is going to be now that it's been revealed to be even more 'WOKE,' in subject matter than people thought it would and it's still going to break records, make 150 million this weekend and is already being heralded as "the savior of the 2019 box office," by mainstream sources? We all know how sure they were that they could kill Marvel with this movie just like they killed Star Wars and Battlefield* by screaming about SJW pandering and Get Woke Go Broke, so I'm just chomping at the bit to see how they try to spin this into a victory.




*Narrator: Star Wars and Battlefield were not killed

I dunno, but I bet that one guy who's still super pissed about The Last Jedi and triumphantly cites how it was only the second-best selling BluRay of 2018 (behind Black Panther) as proof positive that Star Wars is a dead and damaged brand is furiously jerking up something right now in response though. We'll get back to you on that one.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Sanguinia posted:

So what do you guys think the Chud Internet's response to Captain Marvel is going to be now that it's been revealed to be even more 'WOKE,' in subject matter than people thought it would and it's still going to break records, make 150 million this weekend and is already being heralded as "the savior of the 2019 box office," by mainstream sources? We all know how sure they were that they could kill Marvel with this movie just like they killed Star Wars and Battlefield* by screaming about SJW pandering and Get Woke Go Broke, so I'm just chomping at the bit to see how they try to spin this into a victory.




*Narrator: Star Wars and Battlefield were not killed

it will probaly be either the same stupid "marvel is dead poo poo and the movie sucks" or they will memory hole it until the next thing they hate comes out. personally, i liked the movie alot, a hell of a lot more than wonder woman(mostly because the themes/message was better and bri larson is great actress and the cast had chemistry) and this one had cool DBZ type moments.

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