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02-6611-0142-1
Sep 30, 2004

Did anybody get a screenshot of the Nargaroth guy whining about Lords of Chaos before he deleted it?

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the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



02-6611-0142-1 posted:

Did anybody get a screenshot of the Nargaroth guy whining about Lords of Chaos before he deleted it?

https://twitter.com/MetalShayne2000/status/1101585065795031042

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

nargaroth has always been one of the lamest dudes around, however, it's true that most contemporary black metal is bad and overcommercialised.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again


Lords of Chaos consistently making dumbasses freak out is the best thing lol

Danny LaFever
Dec 29, 2008


Grimey Drawer

gently caress off nowadays black metal

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
https://twitter.com/blackeneddeathr/status/1101709468813922304?s=21

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

A human heart posted:

it's true that most contemporary black metal is bad and overcommercialised.

on the other hand good musicians deserve to be able to earn a living doing what they love

go to shows

support ur favorite artists

I unironically love Satyricon and their goofy black-and-roll thing

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Most musicians can't make a living just from their music, even ones working in much more commercial styles than black metal, so I don't think that argument really supports the idea that commercialisation of the style is good.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

The commercialization is wonderful for musicians in the genre. Sure if you just make albums and throw them out on streaming you won’t make poo poo (and that’s awful and needs to change for sure) but the growth of black metal/black metal adjacent music + the growth of the internet has been awesome. YouTube/merch/etc is a great way to grow a fan base and make extra money. There are a ton of great bands that wouldn’t have a chance even in the mid to late 00s.

I know there’s the concept of oh no people will jump on the trend and start making black metal because it’s popular now but that’s literally not a thing.

I’m down with anything that could lead to more money for musicians for their art.

Anyway to prevent this from becoming a dumb derail, pyf hidden gems of 2019. I haven’t really looked for any black metal this year.

Kilometers Davis fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Mar 3, 2019

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Modern commercialized poseur trash doesn't fly with me. I prefer guitars to sound like chainsaws ripping through writhing flesh; vocals to sound like Baphoment Himself peeling the skin from burning believers; drums to be the damning pulse of stakes being driven through false prophets' limbs. I want lyrics scribed on smoldering bibles in Christian blood, uttering phrases of unspeakable repulsion. Metal music should not be pretty, should not be palatable; metal should be vile, scraped from the fathomless depths of human depravity. Only the most inhumanly twisted cacophonies of unyielding evil are fit to grace my speakers - pure, unadulterated hopelessness put forth by bands with unpronouncable names that chill the air, spoken only in hushed tones. Names like Во скорбях; names like Svartsyn; names like Avenged Sevenfold. The most venomous sounds known to man and beast alike.

Unrelated, this sounds promising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJvNh3m7b3s

Danny LaFever
Dec 29, 2008


Grimey Drawer
Well actually, BM should be elitist and anti-commercial.

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

BM should be dirty and also rowdy.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.
You might need to eat more fiber.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Kilometers Davis posted:

The commercialization is wonderful for musicians in the genre. Sure if you just make albums and throw them out on streaming you won’t make poo poo (and that’s awful and needs to change for sure) but the growth of black metal/black metal adjacent music + the growth of the internet has been awesome. YouTube/merch/etc is a great way to grow a fan base and make extra money. There are a ton of great bands that wouldn’t have a chance even in the mid to late 00s.

I know there’s the concept of oh no people will jump on the trend and start making black metal because it’s popular now but that’s literally not a thing.

I’m down with anything that could lead to more money for musicians for their art.

Anyway to prevent this from becoming a dumb derail, pyf hidden gems of 2019. I haven’t really looked for any black metal this year.

Growing a fanbase and making money shouldn't be the point in itself, and plenty of good bands are still overlooked in favour of crap despite the existence of the internet. I don't really know why discussing the music this thread is about would be a derail.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

thought experiment: find a guy who runs a diy punk label and tell him that selling out is totally cool because it allows bands to make money and think about how he might react and why he would react that way

Happy Hedonist
Jan 18, 2009


I don’t give a poo poo what genre I’m listening to or how successful the artist is, as long as I’m enjoying myself. Being overly concerned about that nonsense actually seems rather ridiculous. If we are going to play by those rules then anything other than Mayhem, Darkthrone, and Burzum is copy cat poser poo poo. Is it not?

That said, now that I’m old I find it hard to even listen to metal unless it’s a wall of noise written explicitly to summon forth Our Lord Satan.

Happy Hedonist fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 3, 2019

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Happy Hedonist posted:

If we are going to play by those rules then anything other than Mayhem, Darkthrone, and Burzum is copy cat poser poo poo. Is it not?

Why would that be the case? No one claims these are the only non poser bands around.. The economics around a genre, how the music is distributed, things like that are important because they're obviously going to have an effect on the character of the music. How could they not? You can live in a vacuum if you like but that doesn't mean that this stuff vanishes. If you're interested in music of a particular style then surely it makes sense to be interested in the environment that produces this music and how it works.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

A human heart posted:

Growing a fanbase and making money shouldn't be the point in itself, and plenty of good bands are still overlooked in favour of crap despite the existence of the internet. I don't really know why discussing the music this thread is about would be a derail.

I mean what’s the point in releasing music if growing a fan base isn’t the goal? That’s the entire point. And making money will always be better than not making money if the artist is trying to focus as much of their time as possible on making the art.

Happy Hedonist
Jan 18, 2009


A human heart posted:

Why would that be the case? No one claims these are the only non poser bands around.. The economics around a genre, how the music is distributed, things like that are important because they're obviously going to have an effect on the character of the music. How could they not? You can live in a vacuum if you like but that doesn't mean that this stuff vanishes. If you're interested in music of a particular style then surely it makes sense to be interested in the environment that produces this music and how it works.

That's true and I respect that, but I fail to see how the existence of Batushka is going to in any way affect the real underground scene. There will continue to be good new music sprouting up somewhere regardless. I'm tired, I could be missing the point entirely.

For instance, I read this a few months ago and it made me smile. I think it's this kind of scene that fosters new genres, and in this case they are doing it with an eye on the past. Not unlike what happened in Norway in the early 90's.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2019/01/11/yakutsk-punk-scene-list/

It's this kind of energy and enthusiasm that will ensure the fact there will still be good black metal around in 10 years.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Happy Hedonist posted:

That's true and I respect that, but I fail to see how the existence of Batushka is going to in any way affect the real underground scene. There will continue to be good new music sprouting up somewhere regardless. I'm tired, I could be missing the point entirely.

For instance, I read this a few months ago and it made me smile. I think it's this kind of scene that fosters new genres, and in this case they are doing it with an eye on the past. Not unlike what happened in Norway in the early 90's.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2019/01/11/yakutsk-punk-scene-list/

It's this kind of energy and enthusiasm that will ensure the fact there will still be good black metal around in 10 years.

This is how I feel as well on that end. Black metal is never going to be pop music. But growth and expansion will only lead to more varied interesting music. The bands with zero interest in a “commercialized” sound and approach won’t suddenly be forced to take that path.

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

Yo speaking of selling out here's a dumb youtube promo video I done for my new release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEtbyP-fLNQ

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Lifeglug posted:

Yo speaking of selling out here's a dumb youtube promo video I done for my new release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEtbyP-fLNQ

Dear Lifeglug,

this fuckin rules

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

A human heart posted:

plenty of good bands are still overlooked in favour of crap despite the existence of the internet.

This is just not true though. Black metal is not the economy and fans aren't some limited resource being hoarded by the wealthy. Grand Nokkturnal Panzershit's debut wasn't overlooked because Batushka was stealing their listeners, it was overlooked because it's not palatable music and/or they're not good at marketing it. If it's the former, who gives a poo poo because they're clearly not in it for the money. If it's the latter, well, sucks for them but that's what happens. Regardless, GNP should be pretty loving stoked that Batushka is doing well because they're dragging a whole lot of new ears one step closer to listening to their music. These bands are not competing with each other and unless someone is a hyper-elitist neckbeard who thinks music loses it's purity when more than six people have heard it, there is no reason to be mad at a band's success.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

SchwarzeKrieg posted:

Grand Nokkturnal Panzershit

This is the most NSBM-sounding band name I have ever heard. This is one 36-year-old white dude making deliberately muddy lo-fi garbage metal in his mom's basement and alternately blaming a Jewish conspiracy for his lack of success and holding up his single digit fanbase as proof that he is the Most Kvlt.

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!

Kilometers Davis posted:

I mean what’s the point in releasing music if growing a fan base isn’t the goal? That’s the entire point. And making money will always be better than not making money if the artist is trying to focus as much of their time as possible on making the art.

Hostility to the former and complete indifference to the latter is traditionally an essential part of black metal though.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
in that case does it really matter then that their music gets overlooked if they don't care if people listen to it

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

Ya know when you just think gently caress it and go ahead and release? Well that's me today all over, friends.

https://soundcloud.com/pestilent-one/sets/black-brush

Dropping my 25 min EP Black Brush, please go and listen if you like, or don't, I'm still not your mum.

Happy Hedonist
Jan 18, 2009


Lifeglug posted:

Ya know when you just think gently caress it and go ahead and release? Well that's me today all over, friends.

https://soundcloud.com/pestilent-one/sets/black-brush

Dropping my 25 min EP Black Brush, please go and listen if you like, or don't, I'm still not your mum.

Hell yes.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

Lifeglug posted:

Ya know when you just think gently caress it and go ahead and release? Well that's me today all over, friends.

https://soundcloud.com/pestilent-one/sets/black-brush

Dropping my 25 min EP Black Brush, please go and listen if you like, or don't, I'm still not your mum.

but what if you were my mum

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

Bertrand Hustle posted:

but what if you were my mum

Then I would tell you to like it and you'd feel bad if you didn't because it's your mum!

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

How do I get this awesome music into my Spotify

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Yeah it would be awesome if you could get your stuff up on Apple Music. It’s very good and I wanna conveniently stream it into my ear holes.

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

This is entirely DIY so I don’t have any means to get it into a streaming service without paying through the butt on some exploitative sounding aggregator. You can always stream it through the bandcamp or soundcloud apps I guess.

Edit: gently caress it, shoved it through an aggregator and should, approval pending, be heading to all your favourite shopfronts whenever they let me know.

Piss Witch fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Mar 11, 2019

Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

Bertrand Hustle posted:

How do I get this awesome music into my Spotify

Kilometers Davis posted:

Yeah it would be awesome if you could get your stuff up on Apple Music. It’s very good and I wanna conveniently stream it into my ear holes.

https://open.spotify.com/album/3ZaTOR24vcprhmv6uxIvU9?si=uEClJgm6QCmM6KTdEscC5g

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/black-brush-ep/1456039150

Enjoy!

DroneRiff
May 11, 2009

Awesome and just in time to be my commute to work music for Friday.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.
Woe has a new EP out.
https://woeunholy.bandcamp.com/album/a-violent-dread-ep?fbclid=IwAR3HretI6Mv8YycxciGZMLecViCIdqoYny8U-Kq0Ms0yGTZ9giCK2RZ5y7E

crazyvanman
Dec 31, 2010

That Dawn cover came as a surprise - I knew I recognised it as soon as the riff came in, assumed it was because I had heard this pre-release. Then I read the text and realised my mistake. I guess you could say it...dawned on me.

Resting Lich Face
Feb 21, 2019


This case of an intraperitoneal zucchini is unusual, and does raise questions as to how hard one has to push a blunt vegetable to perforate the rectum.

Lifeglug posted:

Ya know when you just think gently caress it and go ahead and release? Well that's me today all over, friends.

https://soundcloud.com/pestilent-one/sets/black-brush

Dropping my 25 min EP Black Brush, please go and listen if you like, or don't, I'm still not your mum.

Sound of Mind: Interesting introduction track. Vocals are neat. Not particularly standalone as a track but as part of the whole it works.

Distance: Really liked this one, has a good tempo but doesn't rush. I found the slow bits in this one kinda took me out of it compared to the other tracks where the variable pacing generates a lot of interest. This may be because I really really liked the higher tempo parts.

With a Stroke of My Black Brush: Great track as a title track should be. Unlike Distance the slower parts appealed to me greatly in this one. Very second wave sound but with decent sound quality; exactly what I look for in the genre.

A Princess, Fallen: Fantastic. Would have also been worthy of the EP title. Dripping with venom.

Beloved Worm Wrangler: Immediately intriguing from the beginning of the track (even from before due to the name) through to the end. The slow crescendo at about 2:50 is understated but very enjoyable. About 3:50 onward is some of the best material in the EP. Possibly the best track on the EP, I'd have to give the whole thing more listening to make an opinion.

Seasons Past: I like the sharper tones in this one a hell of lot. My only complaint is it's just 3 minutes long! I was like "what do you mean it's over?!"

Great album. Take my $6.66. A must for my collection. Thank you for sharing.

Happy Hedonist
Jan 18, 2009


loving christ this album is good.

https://void-eater.bandcamp.com/album/ii

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Piss Witch
Oct 23, 2005

Resting Lich Face posted:

Sound of Mind: Interesting introduction track. Vocals are neat. Not particularly standalone as a track but as part of the whole it works.

The "vocals" are actually the audio of the exorcism of Anneliese Michel. It's just an intro track that set the tone for the making this EP.

Resting Lich Face posted:

Seasons Past: I like the sharper tones in this one a hell of lot. My only complaint is it's just 3 minutes long! I was like "what do you mean it's over?!"

I didn't have much more for this track beyond that big octave / tritone chug, I feel if it went on much longer (maybe I could've gotten away with one more phrase) it would've been way too repetitive, but I'm surprised with how it turned out myself, to be honest. :D

Resting Lich Face posted:

Great album. Take my $6.66. A must for my collection. Thank you for sharing.

Hey, no problems, glad you enjoy it!

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