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Mel Mudkiper posted:See the problem is that Like, Cannibal Holocaust succeeds in doing what you argue Pirhana 3d tried to do, if only because most people cant actually watch the uncensored version.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:See the problem is that And I don't think he failed. 
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Easy Diff posted:Did you get to see some titties? Sure, some of the best titties according to some. But you also saw them attached to a mutilated, grotesque corpse. So did you get what you wanted? Yes, that is exactly what the target audience wanted. I mean there are people who enjoy poo poo like Nekromantik, the gore in Piranha wouldn’t even make them blink. It’s understandable (and probably a sign that you are a well-adjusted person) if you were uncomfortable with it but there is no way that was the intention of anyone involved. /\/\/\ if he explicitly said that was his intention, then he did a bad job at it, but it sounds more like he was trying to justify the existence of the trashy exploitation film he made. This is the same dude who made the incredibly gory and violent The Hills Have Eyes remakes gey muckle mowser fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Mar 11, 2019 |
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gey muckle mowser posted:Yes, that is exactly what the target audience wanted. I mean there are people who enjoy poo poo like Nekromantik, the gore in Piranha wouldn’t even make them blink. It’s understandable (and probably a sign that you are a well-adjusted person) if you were uncomfortable with it but there is no way that was the intention of anyone involved. 
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Easy Diff posted:
The movie was a mainstream success and got a sequel That's as spectacular a failure you could ask for
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The movie was a mainstream success and got a sequel This doesn't make sense.
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source: I am not a well adjusted person
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CelticPredator posted:This doesn't make sense. If the point of the movie is to make them regret what they asked for, it being successful shows it failed to make them regretful
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Like, there is a reason Funny Games shows at art house theatres and not cineplexes
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You mean you haven’t seen Funny Games 2: The Rematch?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:If the point of the movie is to make them regret what they asked for, it being successful shows it failed to make them regretful Well, they'd still have to see it in order to learn their lesson, no?
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gey muckle mowser posted:You mean you haven’t seen Funny Games 2: The Rematch? I would also accept Funny Games, Too Funny Games: Back 2 the House
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gey muckle mowser posted:Yes, that is exactly what the target audience wanted. I mean there are people who enjoy poo poo like Nekromantik, the gore in Piranha wouldn’t even make them blink. It’s understandable (and probably a sign that you are a well-adjusted person) if you were uncomfortable with it but there is no way that was the intention of anyone involved. God, that first The Hills Have Eyes Remake was so loving good. The second one exists solely for the story about the theater in Long Island accidentally showing Hills Have Eyes 2 to a bunch of children instead of The Last Mimzy. http://filmjunk.com/2007/04/09/the-hills-have-eyes-2-accidentally-shown-to-family-audience-in-long-island/
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ruddiger posted:God, that first The Hills Have Eyes Remake was so loving good. hahaha I love when stuff like that happens, last year some theater played the trailer for Hereditary before that Peter Rabbit movie and yeah I really like the Hills Have Eyes remake. I don’t really remember the second one though.
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the only thing I remember about the remake was that it was the first mainstream horror film I could remember in ages in which successful rape was depicted
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I find that analysis of Piranha 3D pretty spot on. I also like it for similar reasons as Showgirls: it’s a genuine exploitation film but with a glossy modern sheen and a well above average budget and that isn’t something you get too often. In terms of tone, it’s not far off from the original Piranha, which is also a fun, hyper gory splatter film that’s smarter than it looks on the surface. Also half-eaten Jerry O’Connell as the Girls Gone Wild guy gurgling out ”Wet...tee...shirts...” as his last words is just a hilarious gag.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The movie was a mainstream success and got a sequel And the sequel turbo-bombed, indicating that the trick worked, because nobody came back.
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Stryder posted:Assault on Precinct 13 / Ghosts of Mars Prince of Darkness is also inspired by Rio Bravo. Carpenter does indeed love that movie.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:And the sequel turbo-bombed, indicating that the trick worked, because nobody came back. The sequel was only released on Redbox. Nowhere else. How could it not have bombed?
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its ironic prince of darkness was inspired by Rio Bravo because Rio Bravo is one of the few films I consider to be truly morally reprehensible
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I would also accept
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Timeless Appeal posted:Funnier Games gently caress
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gey muckle mowser posted:This is the same dude who made the incredibly gory and violent The Hills Have Eyes remakes Having watched the original The Hills Have Eyes recently, I'd say that Aja actually made a better movie. How's that for a hot take? Okay it was pretty lukewarm, the original isn't very good
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The main character of Craven's The Hills Have Eyes is a dog, therefore it is superior.
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King Vidiot posted:Having watched the original The Hills Have Eyes recently, I'd say that Aja actually made a better movie. How's that for a hot take? This take was actually doing the rounds quite a bit when that movie came out. I don’t agree, I think The Hills Have Eyes is Craven’s first real masterpiece, but the remake is very solid.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:its ironic prince of darkness was inspired by Rio Bravo because Rio Bravo is one of the few films I consider to be truly morally reprehensible Whoa, huge diss on Dean Martin outta nowhere.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Whoa, huge diss on Dean Martin outta nowhere. More my explicit and unflinching hatred of John wayne
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:This take was actually doing the rounds quite a bit when that movie came out. I don’t agree, I think The Hills Have Eyes is Craven’s first real masterpiece, but the remake is very solid. I rewatched the remake after the original was on Joe Bob's Dinners of Death and I think I put them on par now. Michael Berryman is pretty hard to beat, but I think the stuff with the family is done better by Aja.
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LesterGroans posted:I rewatched the remake after the original was on Joe Bob's Dinners of Death and I think I put them on par now. Michael Berryman is pretty hard to beat, but I think the stuff with the family is done better by Aja. If you mean the “good” family maybe, but one of my big complaints about the remake is how one dimensional it makes the cannibal family compared to the original, where they all have defined personalities beyond just “likes to kill and eat people”. But yeah the red state vs blue state dynamic between Ted Levine and his son in law in the remake is pretty fun (that stuff was already there to an extent in the original but the remake did a good job putting a modern twist on it)
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Aja killed it with the casting too. Buffalo Bill as the dad and Kathleen Quinlan as the mom, Claire from Lost and the girl from Hocus Pocus as the sisters, and Pyro from X2 were all really memorable, along with Billy Drago and Robert Joy as the cannibals. Man, I kinda forget how unsung Robert Joy is. He makes for a great unrepentant villain in Hills, and is low key they best part about Land of the Dead.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:If you mean the “good” family maybe, but one of my big complaints about the remake is how one dimensional it makes the cannibal family compared to the original, where they all have defined personalities beyond just “likes to kill and eat people”. But yeah the red state vs blue state dynamic between Ted Levine and his son in law in the remake is pretty fun (that stuff was already there to an extent in the original but the remake did a good job putting a modern twist on it) Yeah, that's what I mean, the tourist family. They amped up that clashing dynamic and Levine and Aaron Stanford are perfect for those parts. I prefer the hill people family from the original.
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ruddiger posted:Pyro from X2 I remember Aaron Stanford getting a lot of buzz in the early '00s from Tadpole, X2 and The Hills Have Eyes, but it never really paid off, huh?
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LesterGroans posted:I remember Aaron Stanford getting a lot of buzz in the early '00s from Tadpole, X2 and The Hills Have Eyes, but it never really paid off, huh? IIRC in the mid-00s he wanted to return to mostly acting on stage so he never became a household name but he's popped up in The Walking Dead and other stuff for a few episodes regularly since then too.
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Neo Rasa posted:IIRC in the mid-00s he wanted to return to mostly acting on stage so he never became a household name but he's popped up in The Walking Dead and other stuff for a few episodes regularly since then too. Fair enough. That was kind of William Petersen's deal, right? He preferred doing theatre work and staying around his family even though he killed it in Manhunter and To Live and Die in LA. He did do some supporting parts throughout the '90s though.
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LesterGroans posted:Fair enough. That was kind of William Petersen's deal, right? He preferred doing theatre work and staying around his family even though he killed it in Manhunter and To Live and Die in LA. He did do some supporting parts throughout the '90s though. He also got his gently caress-you money doing a little show called C.S.I.
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Easy Diff posted:He also got his gently caress-you money doing a little show called C.S.I. Yeah, 15 years later. Even then, he bailed after 8 seasons. William Petersen rules though. He's in that decent 12 Angry Men TV adaptation, and -- to be more related to the thread -- a crappy TV movie called The Beast that I loved as a kid. It was Peter Benchley doing another Jaws.
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Basebf555 posted:I'd like to have access to as many CineD related discords as I can because life without the forums really will be a major adjustment, as sad as that may be to say. Did something recently change that is putting the forums in imminent danger of dying? I feel like the forums I read are pretty drat active (CineD, Games, D&D).
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Megasabin posted:Did something recently change that is putting the forums in imminent danger of dying? I feel like the forums I read are pretty drat active (CineD, Games, D&D). Lowtax's back is still messed up and as of a couple of days ago he had -$98 to his name. :/ LesterGroans posted:Yeah, 15 years later. Even then, he bailed after 8 seasons. Oh man I remember looking forward to The Beast when it premiered for that reason! It sucked. William Peterson does rule though.
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King Vidiot posted:Having watched the original The Hills Have Eyes recently, I'd say that Aja actually made a better movie. How's that for a hot take? I'm inclined to agree, the remake is exactly a masterpiece but I didn't really care for the original when I last saw it. That was pretty long ago though and my tastes have definitely evolved since then so I should probably give it a rewatch.
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gey muckle mowser posted:I love the '78 Invasion of the Body Snatchers too I realise I'm way behind in this thread but I love this movie and I had a dream recently about watching it... ...except that it was a re-released "special edition" (like the Star Wars Special Editions of the late 90s). Not spoiling (it's the first 10 minutes of a 40yo movie), but remember in the first 10 minutes or so when Sutherland hits the guy with his car and he shout's "They're coming!" and is chased off by a mob? In my dream, the mob had been digitally altered to be these mutant monster things. I woke up straight away and I was so relentlessly angry I couldn't get back to sleep! I know it doesn't exist. I know it will never exist. Except now, I've SEEN IT and now can't UN-SEE it!!
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