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RareAcumen posted:GOOD LORD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE?! Does this fucker have anything else going on in his life? Does he have a family?
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Honestly as lovely as Ethan or Geeks and Gamers or Diversity in Comics or Mauler are, I feel their audience are worse. These people would be hobos screaming on the street if there weren't a bunch of obsessive dipshits who apparently have nothing better to do than listen to brainless screaming for hours on end and then try to repeat that poo poo everywhere.
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Nucleic Acids posted:Does this fucker have anything else going on in his life? Does he have a family? Indeed he does https://twitter.com/ethanvansciver/status/1023196755842748421?lang=en He also inflicts his assholeitude on them directly by doing poo poo like flying into a screaming rage while his daughter is trying to watch Muppet Babies.
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The deep characterization of muppet babies shall not be infringed
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nine-gear crow posted:Indeed he does how dare you ruin the delicate character balance of muppet babies with an  . i didn't throw away my career to not explore the deep plots and cutting morality of the muppet babies for this.
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Does he ever explain what he thinks of Skeeter?
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man people hate RLM for the most baffling reasons sometimes
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Nucleic Acids posted:Does this fucker have anything else going on in his life? Does he have a family? Technically he's drawing a comic that raised a ridiculous amount of money - twice, because he double-dipped for variant covers - on IndieGoGo. It's several months late. Also Ethan Van Sciver: https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1105127578485092352 Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Mar 12, 2019 04:29
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man people hate RLM for the most baffling reasons sometimes its because its popular to hate them same with james rolf.
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I generally enjoy rlm but couldn't make it through their brie larson prologue to their actual review of the god drat film. namaste
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Cheap Diner Coffee posted:I generally enjoy rlm but couldn't make it through their brie larson prologue to their actual review of the god drat film. Same. It just got super uncomfortable and drifted squeamishly close to "she should just smile more" territory.
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Cheap Diner Coffee posted:I generally enjoy rlm but couldn't make it through their brie larson prologue to their actual review of the god drat film. i didnt mind it that much. it was a good summery of the whole controversy and their resonable opinions on it. i never payed attention to it the first time, so i never knew what got the chuds all riled up.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man people hate RLM for the most baffling reasons sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XCFjN80BO8
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its because its popular to hate them same with james rolf.
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achillesforever6 posted:Again I like RLM for most of their content, but they also kind of have a toxic fanbase which to be fair so does every fanbase true. though rich and jack when they did streams talked poo poo to the chuds a ton and hated them being there. they have issues and have done some off color poo poo, but over all they are pretty good.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:true. though rich and jack when they did streams talked poo poo to the chuds a ton and hated them being there. they have issues and have done some off color poo poo, but over all they are pretty good.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its because its popular to hate them same with james rolf. Dapper_Swindler posted:they have issues and have done some off color poo poo, Like it's OK if you have different thresholds for this stuff, but pulling out the old "You only have this opinion because it's a trendy opinion!" cliche is just as stupid as when people use it to defend Snyder films.
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achillesforever6 posted:Again I like RLM for most of their content, but they also kind of have a toxic fanbase which to be fair so does every fanbase uhhh mine's pretty chill actually I'd put RLM in a pretty high toxicity level as far as fanbases go. unusually high, even. lead poisoning high. I know people with fanbases of comparable sizes but RLM is even worse than channel awesome's pre-gamergate fanbase in terms of sheer that's a yikes from me, dog. edit: and while we're being honest I stopped following their stuff a while ago because they leaned in so hard to being tone deaf everytime there is A Black or A Woman on screen, and their dogged refusal to examine their own internal biases with regard to how they read texts that star anything but white dudes is just... I'm over it. I think them leaning into anti-SJW sympathies is at least in part a result of their audience pushing them in that direction. It is hard not to want to reward your audience, at least a little. But I don't think it's fair to compare "hating RLM" to "hating James Rolfe". Worst thing you can say about Rolfe is he keeps his head in the sand too much. RLM does say genuinely harmful stuff on occasion. Pirate Jenny fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Pirate Jenny posted:uhhh mine's pretty chill actually
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Fan communities are weird. The most wholesome I think I know is the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend fandom, notorious for buying the cast bagels before their shows and worrying if they're overworking themselves.
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The gbs rlm thread chased its chuds out years ago.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:The gbs rlm thread chased its chuds out years ago. 
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nine-gear crow posted:
Why? I found it pretty interesting because I didn't know there was an uproar over Captain Marvel, plus the video they showed about that guy saying it was all feminist propaganda was eye opening as well ( it's kinda hard to believe how many views and how much influence those people still seem to have but here we are). I think they summed up the whole situation pretty nicely, the whole thing is embarrassing and it's over a bland corporate product that isn't really worth the effort in the first place. Pirate Jenny posted:uhhh mine's pretty chill actually I'd put their fanbase on a pretty average level. It helps that RLM don't shy away from making fun of themselves, so anyone that goes overboard gets shutdown pretty quick.
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nine-gear crow posted:Same. It just got super uncomfortable and drifted squeamishly close to "she should just smile more" territory. I'd say it was closer to--as they put it--putting her foot in her mouth by being condescending while making a reasonable point.
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I kinda wonder who's got what experience with fanbases in this conversation. Like, if your main experience with fanbases is via atrocity tourism or similar "Gawk at the weirdo" stuff, then you're going to have a really different perspective than if you're actively involved as a fan. Namely, you're only going to be aware of the really terrible elements, and not look at the completely boring chill people that make up the bulk of most fanbases, because various permutations of "I like this thing" aren't interesting. If you have been involved in fanbases and encountered only terrible people... probably you need to be a fan of better things that don't attract shitheads, or maybe learn to avoid places where shitheads congregate. Like usually the worst thing I've seen in most fanbases is discourse on Why My Preferred Pairing is Objectively Good, and Every Other Pairing Is #Problematic. Though I hope there's less of that in the Internet Critic scene.
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achillesforever6 posted:It's still kind of mean spirited for my liking That's fair. I just like being able to make fun of lovely big budget movies without anyone taking it personally.
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The thing I liked about RLM when I first saw the Plinkett reviews was when the video were highly analytical and I could learn stuff about editing or whatever from them beyond just the mean-spirited nick-picking. I never really got that from any of their other content that I tried
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achillesforever6 posted:It's still kind of mean spirited for my liking That's most GBS threads, really. Give people the option to say anything and they will follow through. I still follow RLM, mainly for their Re:view content and Best of the Worst. They are in their element talking about old movies and straight to video schlock. Half in the Bag isn't really appealing to me beyond their weird Plinkett sketches or general boobery because it's just BOTW without a lot of the charm that comes from the tapes they watch. That plus the fact that I really don't care to watch movie reviews for new blockbusters anymore. So I have sort of quarantined off their more questionable opinions, even though they're still there. They haven't said anything that has made me outright stop watching them, but I recognize that I should acknowledge the things they say and keep that in mind when I watch their videos. It's like keeping a running tab on how far they will push things before I turn them off, like I did with Jontron. I don't know if he's still been spewing anti-immigrant nonsense but I hope he's been smart enough to keep that poo poo out of his videos. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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Sanguinia posted:The thing I liked about RLM when I first saw the Plinkett reviews was when the video were highly analytical and I could learn stuff about editing or whatever from them beyond just the mean-spirited nick-picking. I never really got that from any of their other content that I tried Yeah, this was my main issue. If I want regular person opinions, I know plenty of people I can ask. If I'm watching a video, I'd rather learn something from someone who knows stuff I don't.
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I like the dry humor and general feeling of miserableness in most RLM stuff. And most of their tastes allign with my own, which is all I want from critics really.
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Sanguinia posted:The thing I liked about RLM when I first saw the Plinkett reviews was when the video were highly analytical and I could learn stuff about editing or whatever from them beyond just the mean-spirited nick-picking. I never really got that from any of their other content that I tried Likewise, and these days there's plenty of other folks creating fun critical content who aren't so painfully obtuse when handling social issues.
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I love them still but think their opinions on Star Wars sucks rear end.
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nine-gear crow posted:Same. It just got super uncomfortable and drifted squeamishly close to "she should just smile more" territory. This is a pretty wide miss of the mark, when it's pretty much just 'corporations do not care about you, billionaires are not your friends, and pretending that consuming THIS product because the Bad People hate it makes you morally just is insane'
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How many people are actually claiming that watching Captain Marvel is a Moral thing to do? From what I gather there are those that are happy that the chuds are angry that Captain Marvel had a big debut but that's far from the only reason they're going to go see that film.
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^^there was literally an online fundraising effort that raised 60000$ to buy movie tickets for underprivileged children to go see Captain MarvelCelticPredator posted:I love them still but think their opinions on Star Wars sucks rear end. honestly i'm pretty sure they despise talking about star wars at this point
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RLM should take back the reins on their audience by doing more videos about weird '90s instructional VHS tapes as opposed to talking about lousy modern mainstream movies. That'd probably be the way to do it. It's tricky, mind. Very easy to fall into poo poo that "appeases the audience". Much better to follow your whims - you tend to get a much better fanbase and comment section that way too. Mine's good, but then because of the subject matter of my vids mine is also old so you'd expect better behaviour (my main demo is men aged 35-44).
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i like real lilywhite men talking about old movies and bad movies because that's what i'm into and they're good at it. i don't like real lilywhite men talking about culture wars and the feminisms because they don't know enough about either topic to be informative or even entertaining about it because their previously mentioned identities mean they don't have a personal perspective of it from above the existing cultural milieu and they have no personal stake in learning more. i can go to a farm or just turn off my monitor if i want to watch pigs wallow.
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On a different topic, I'd like to ask a question to the content creators who post in this thread. With the way that reviews and videos have changed since the Channel Awful days, how have your interactions with other content creators changed? I admit I have no idea how or if there was actually much of a community back then beyond the veneer, but do you find that YouTube as a platform has made things more fragmentary when it comes to associating with other creators? I know that a number of you do collaborate on videos and have interacted outside of the production end of things, but does it feel different now than it used to? Just looking in from my outsider perspective things seem a lot more isolated among content producers and that there isn't really a community to speak of beyond 1:1 contact via email or direct communication. Am I wrong on this? Is there any place that can really function as a forum where you all can just shoot the poo poo and feel comfortable? It sure isn't this forum because we're rather terrible and I doubt many of you would want to treat it as your "home base" as it were, given how enough people have come and gone from the thread due to various shitstorms that pass through. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Mar 12, 2019 |
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