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sniper4625 posted:I don't like how confrontative some are It's a game of mafia not happy friend time. We are here to pick someone to murder every day.
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Azurelana posted:I think I will do this: (Hello! Just want to check - is this your first SA mafia game? I don't think we've gamed together yet) Can you explain how you think CPig casing Chic might have quelled future discussion? To me it seems like he was trying to jumpstart discussion in an otherwise quiet game. Azure is on my radar at the moment as well but I'd be willing to give a newbie pass there.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:03
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sniper4625 posted:One day I will calibrate the correct setting between "lolk bandwagon" posting and "ok you made a good point here's a bunch of words" posting to arrive at "is not immediately posting scummy posting." I do think that pushback on the former leading to the latter isn't an obvious sign of scummery? But I'm necessarily biased here. Actually now that I've read him, Sniper is my second-most suspicious person on D1. Sorry work friend!  This is a tone read, Sniper has used a ton of words this game to not really convey much. He reads like scum trying to look engaged but not actually having a point that he's trying to make. His only alignment read has been a vote on Cpig followed by walking it back. My preferences for today would be Sniper or Hal at the moment.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:10
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Murmur Twin posted:Actually now that I've read him, Sniper is my second-most suspicious person on D1. Sorry work friend! Some direct points then: CPig and Chic have been confrontative, but considering the course of the day that's not particularly scummy - we've been pretty moribund. Like I said that's not really enough to condemn on. You on the other hand have been absent bar for momentary pop ins to avoid total AWOLness and promises that content was forthcoming. Which it did in these recent posts, which seem detailed and oriented enough to outweigh the aforementioned absentness. So in short, who do I currently find suspicious? I dunno. That's probably why my posts seem aimless, I don't have a thesis case to make. Has anyone seen Asiina lately?
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Mar 14, 2019 00:16
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Murmur Twin posted:(Hello! Just want to check - is this your first SA mafia game? I don't think we've gamed together yet) I think that going aggressively after the only case on the table immediately makes people more reluctant to put out more cases because people going after you isn't very fun. But even were that not true it's still just really weird to do that and then just try to shrug it off later.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:20
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GeneX posted:##vote MMT Oh, ok, MMT seems like she honestly forgot ##vote Sniper Hi again
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Mar 14, 2019 00:20
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sniper4625 posted:
Oh no bad time to catch up! I'm actually fine with Sniper. He's doing a lot of "I dunno it's D1" but he's not really experienced with mafia, so it feels like clueless newbie to me. He reads genuine. Most people I have a pretty null read on other than CPig tbh. None of the other content feels particularly egregious atm.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:21
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The state of the game, MMT remix: Lean town - CPig, GX (actively hunting for scum) Null-lean-town - Chic, Teland (engaging with the game and appear to be speaking off the cuff) Null - Asiina, Azure (low content but I'm willing to wait and see given the quiet state of the game) Lean scum - Hal, Sniper (both read as unnaturally self-conscious)
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Mar 14, 2019 00:22
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Asiina posted:Oh no bad time to catch up! I knew I could count on you to understand me. Murmur Twin posted:Lean scum - Hal, Sniper (both read as unnaturally self-conscious) A side effect I suppose of being on the defensive from the start - once the kernel of suspicion is there, I'm not really sure how to effectively defend myself without it becoming "lady doth protest too much" which is also scummy. Maybe you old pros are just better at mining the D1 nuggets.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:25
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sniper4625 posted:Some direct points then: ##vote Sniper You sound like me when I'm scum, where I know that everyone I'm casing is town and find it hard to commit to a lie. And it seems like you're focusing on lurkers (me early on, Asiina), which is a pretty easy scum case to make.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:29
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sniper4625 posted:A side effect I suppose of being on the defensive from the start - once the kernel of suspicion is there, I'm not really sure how to effectively defend myself without it becoming "lady doth protest too much" which is also scummy. Maybe you old pros are just better at mining the D1 nuggets. Can you give me a list of your alignment reads similar to the one I posted?
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Mar 14, 2019 00:30
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Murmur Twin posted:Can you give me a list of your alignment reads similar to the one I posted? Not before deadline, I'm heading out for the night. As I am unable to muster a defense, I don't begrudge your mistaken vote and will treat it as a further lesson on proper d1 conduct.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:37
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My instinct early on was to not trust Hal, but I was holding off because the explanation that they were targeting MMT because of a past experience could hold up (although I don't see why you would try to get other people on board for a purely personal vote). If MMT is telling the truth that there isn't much basis behind that explanation, then I think the only reason to target her would be because she wasn't defending herself, so it could be easy to push votes to her (and away from someone else). But if you want an easy target, wouldn't it be easier to jump on the cpig bandwagon than to stick with MMT when no one's listening? Hal seems most suspicious to me at this junction but I can't pin down their reasoning - it just seems off. I will have to keep an eye on MMT since that's the only person who can refute Hal's explanation, making it really easy to turn the tables on them.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:53
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Asiina posted:I have awakened! What about CPig's vote looked specifically like something he'd do as scum? I don't see it at all.
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Mar 14, 2019 00:53
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##vote cpig I am not a fan of the sniper cases
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Mar 14, 2019 01:21
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Hal Incandenza posted:##vote cpig I am not a fan of the sniper cases Hal, be honest, you rolled scum didn't you? You are being really scummy this game. You aren't normally this blatantly scummy.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:25
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Votecount for Day 1  CapitalistPig (4): Asiina, sniper4625, Chic Trombone, sniper4625 (3): GeneX, CapitalistPig, Teland (0): CapitalistPig, Hal Incandenza (0): GeneX, Chic Trombone (0): CapitalistPig, Murmur Twin (0): GeneX, Hal Incandenza, Not Voting (2): sniper4625, TelandWith 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 13th, 2019 at 10 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 28 minutes.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:31
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CapitalistPig posted:Hal, be honest, you rolled scum didn't you? nope but you know I would tell you if I was
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Mar 14, 2019 01:32
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Well, I am at -1 so like. When I die and flip VT take a serious look at Hal/sniper/chic.
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Mar 14, 2019 01:46
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This momentum on Pig is awful and I am strongly against it. The people who have a town read on Sniper are going to explain to me how someone saying “gee, making reads is hard”, casing lurkers, and then vanishing at deadline clears him of suspicion.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:02
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CapitalistPig posted:Well, I am at -1 so like. When I die and flip VT take a serious look at Hal/sniper/chic. Well that’s rude.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:02
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Murmur Twin posted:This momentum on Pig is awful and I am strongly against it. The people who have a town read on Sniper are going to explain to me how someone saying “gee, making reads is hard”, casing lurkers, and then vanishing at deadline clears him of suspicion. There is only one thing that clears you of suspicion in a mafia game MMT
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Mar 14, 2019 02:03
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sniper4625 posted:Not before deadline, I'm heading out for the night. As I am unable to muster a defense, I don't begrudge your mistaken vote and will treat it as a further lesson on proper d1 conduct. He didn’t even drop a vote before vanishing, come on.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:06
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Hal Incandenza posted:There is only one thing that clears you of suspicion in a mafia game MMT Sell me on Pig over sniper, quote some posts
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Mar 14, 2019 02:06
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Murmur Twin posted:Sell me on Pig over sniper, quote some posts Mostly how pig demanded content then jumped on the first content that showed up. It rubbed me the wrong way, like a scum would rub me
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Mar 14, 2019 02:08
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I’m not super opposed to sniper, just think pig is a little scummier but I’m still around to listen to more arguments
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Mar 14, 2019 02:10
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The argument against cpig looks to me more like admonishment for being rude than real suspicion. I imagine if I were scum I would be avoiding confrontation to keep out of the spotlight.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:14
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Hal Incandenza posted:I’m not super opposed to sniper, just think pig is a little scummier but I’m still around to listen to more arguments Murmur Twin posted:The people who have a town read on Sniper are going to explain to me how someone saying “gee, making reads is hard”, casing lurkers, and then vanishing at deadline clears him of suspicion. Do you disagree with any of my points above? We have less than an hour left, if people think Sniper is town I'd love to hear why, otherwise it'd be super cool if people could vote there or work harder to sell Pig as scum.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:29
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Murmur Twin posted:The people who have a town read on Sniper are going to explain to me how someone saying “gee, making reads is hard”, casing lurkers, and then vanishing at deadline clears him of suspicion.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:35
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Teland posted:I don't think it clears him - actually I think you've made the best argument against him so far. Getting defensive at the last minute (calling out you and asiina) didn't rub me the right way either. But so much of this depends on whether being indecisive is out of character for him, and that I don't know. It seems unfair to go against him for that when you can all plainly see that I'm also indecisive. Read his posts - does he look like someone who is trying to solve a mystery? Or is he more focused on people understanding why he isn't making cases? The fact that he vanished (without voting) the second I asked him for reads has to be the most suspicious thing on D1, no?
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Mar 14, 2019 02:40
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But if he's not genuinely trying to solve the mystery, why doesn't he just seal the deal on cpig (one of the people who has spoken against him) to avert this suspicion?
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Mar 14, 2019 02:44
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Teland posted:The argument against cpig looks to me more like admonishment for being rude than real suspicion. I imagine if I were scum I would be avoiding confrontation to keep out of the spotlight. Interesting thought there! Murmur Twin posted:Can you give me a list of your alignment reads similar to the one I posted? sniper4625 posted:Not before deadline, I'm heading out for the night. As I am unable to muster a defense, I don't begrudge your mistaken vote and will treat it as a further lesson on proper d1 conduct.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:45
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Teland posted:But if he's not genuinely trying to solve the mystery, why doesn't he just seal the deal on cpig (one of the people who has spoken against him) to avert this suspicion? Because then he looks suspicious for dropping the hammer on town D1, instead of leaving town in the dark by letting a no-lynch happen.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:47
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I mean I would switch to sniper if that will make something happen but I don't know if there is another vote
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Mar 14, 2019 02:51
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Murmur Twin posted:Because then he looks suspicious for dropping the hammer on town D1, instead of leaving town in the dark by letting a no-lynch happen. I do see more of merit for the sniper argument than cpig. But even so... my vote wouldn't be enough and it's down to the wire.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:52
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sniper4625 posted:Maybe one day I will pick up the knack of what jokeposting is in good fun and what jokeposting is a d1 scumtell it's an arcane art. Like come on, this isn't a post written by someone comfortably sharing his thought process, it's someone carefully choosing his words.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:52
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I would switch to sniper if that will make something happen but I don't know if there is another vote Oh well that negates what I just said.
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Mar 14, 2019 02:52
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Teland posted:Oh well that negates what I just said. ball is still in your court friend
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Mar 14, 2019 02:53
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I would switch to sniper if that will make something happen but I don't know if there is another vote Teland posted:So now I'll look suspicious if I make the final call and it's wrong. Gah! I will take ownership of messing this up if Sniper flips town but I feel fairly confident I'm right and you're both here to vote.
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ok fine I will make it easy for you teland ##vote sniper
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