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1809 + Retpoline update on my i5-3550: It worked and so far 1809 hasn't killed anything. Also the version of 1809 that was installed came with the latest cumulative update so that was nice. Feels like it HAS helped with Metro Exodus some. I don't seem to drop to the low 40s randomly as often though since I'm not just using a benchmark or viewing the same scenes as before the retpoline update this could all just be a placebo edit: welp, new page don't have much to add beyond what I put up there.
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MagusDraco posted:Yeah I remember that but also remember 1809 (or the first roll out of 1809) sometimes nuking your files Microsoft put up a surprisingly detailed post explaining the situations it could delete files here: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/10/09/updated-version-of-windows-10-october-2018-update-released-to-windows-insiders
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Mar 13, 2019 17:22
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So... is deal with Retpoline something that manually has to be done?code:
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Mar 13, 2019 20:01
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redeyes posted:So... is deal with Retpoline something that manually has to be done? If you don’t want to wait for the eventual rollout, yes.
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Mar 13, 2019 20:09
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Already done. I don't run VMs with customer data on my machine, so why not?
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Mar 13, 2019 20:29
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No idea if this is the right place for this question, but I can't find any kind of "Random Questions Mega-Thread" like there are in other sub-forums. If there's a better place, let me know and I'll move this there... Scenario: I have a folder containing quite a few pdf files (of commercial invoices). I would like to find specific ones of these pdfs and copy them into a new file. The files are named after the tracking numbers under which they were shipped. I have a couple of ways of identifying the files I want copied: - I have the tracking numbers of those I want copied. However, I have to copy about 300 out of literally thousands. That's a ton of manual process to find/copy/paste into new folder. - I also can use the Adobe Search to look inside the pdfs for the unique account number for these 300. I've done that (mostly) successfully, but I don't see any way of copying the results of that, so I end up back at square one of doing them manually.
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Mar 13, 2019 23:42
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redeyes posted:So... is deal with Retpoline something that manually has to be done?
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Mar 14, 2019 05:55
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xylo posted:if you just take updates normally you just end up getting it (and enabled if possible) automatically. I checked around 18850 and it was already on there for me. Still is as of 18855. I was behind about 5 months of reboots so, just installed everything and ran that reg thing for safeness. System is more snappy for sure. A+ 5 stars
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Mar 14, 2019 06:05
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Why doesn't Windows have the option to manually restart after an update? Giving it a set time to update restart is all well and fine but why is it limited to that? I have a Win 10 computer doing things that take hours and hours and frequently they get screwed over because of an update and Windows decides to reboot afterwards. How do you turn this off?
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Mar 14, 2019 06:06
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Because there are a bunch of fishmechs in microsoft. That's why.
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Mar 14, 2019 06:16
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Stare-Out posted:Why doesn't Windows have the option to manually restart after an update? Giving it a set time to update restart is all well and fine but why is it limited to that? I have a Win 10 computer doing things that take hours and hours and frequently they get screwed over because of an update and Windows decides to reboot afterwards. How do you turn this off? Pause updates briefly if you are doing something that absolutely, positively cannot be interrupted? Set active hours to encompass the time-frames these things are happening?
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Mar 14, 2019 06:23
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The computer in question is doing video stuff pretty much 24/7 so setting up a schedule around the six-hour window you're allowed doesn't work. And Windows always sneaks the updates in there and the restart is always super abrupt with only the tiny notification thing in the corner to signal it. I'd be fine if it threw up a tiny window pestering me about restarting every 30 minutes or something, not booting up on its own and corrupting files in the process. E: Maybe I'll just take it offline while it works or something.
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Mar 14, 2019 16:50
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Stare-Out posted:setting up a schedule around the six-hour window you're allowed doesn't work. What about setting up a schedule around the 18-hour window you're allowed with active hours?
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Mar 14, 2019 17:02
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astral posted:allowed with active hours? Computing in 2019........ I still can't stand this to be honest.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:12
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What I mean by that is that there's no way to disable it entirely, Windows just gives you a time period when you're not active on the computer but the computer is active all the time so that option doesn't work. More time would be even worse since that would make it even harder to narrow down when it might reboot, but the smallest amount isn't small enough for that either.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:15
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We've been over this before. If you're doing something that absolutely cannot be interrupted you shouldn't be using a consumer version of the operating system.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:23
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Stare-Out posted:What I mean by that is that there's no way to disable it entirely, Windows just gives you a time period when you're not active on the computer but the computer is active all the time so that option doesn't work. More time would be even worse since that would make it even harder to narrow down when it might reboot, but the smallest amount isn't small enough for that either. You can set your PC to not receive updates for up to 35 days. Just use that functionality (Win 10 Pro). The Home version currently can't do that, but will be able to defer for up to seven days with the upcoming April update. There's also a tool out there that will simply move the "active hours" every hour to disable updates.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:35
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Stare-Out posted:The computer in question is doing video stuff pretty much 24/7 so setting up a schedule around the six-hour window you're allowed doesn't work. And Windows always sneaks the updates in there and the restart is always super abrupt with only the tiny notification thing in the corner to signal it. I'd be fine if it threw up a tiny window pestering me about restarting every 30 minutes or something, not booting up on its own and corrupting files in the process. Upgrade to Win 10 Pro, use GPEdit.msc to make updates manual. Honestly, anything that needs to run 24/7 needs pro not home.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:43
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It is running Pro.  Also thanks for those methods, gonna give them a shot!
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Mar 14, 2019 17:55
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Stare-Out posted:It is running Pro. The "Pause updates" option is in the advanced options of Windows Update, if you're looking for it. The April update will make it more obvious.
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Mar 14, 2019 17:59
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You could disable the reboot task but it's likely that the result is you'll put off the update for a very long time, since it's hard to notice the update notification and you'd rather start on the next job instead of waiting on a reboot if you did notice. Meanwhile forcing the update is the correct move security-wise because a mostly unattended machine online 24/7 is the best kind for a botnet.  It'd be nice if Windows had some sort of API where the app can check and warn you of impending updates, or at least notify Windows that there's a job in progress and please hold off until it's done. Not that devs would necessarily update their apps to use it.
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Mar 14, 2019 18:18
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I'll update it between jobs, that's not a problem. A notification to remind me to restart for new updates would be ideal but I don't mind having to do the whole thing manually if it means I don't waste hours on a task because Windows wrecked it by rebooting.
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Mar 14, 2019 18:24
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hooah posted:We've been over this before. If you're doing something that absolutely cannot be interrupted you shouldn't be using a consumer version of the operating system.
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Mar 14, 2019 18:58
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gourdcaptain posted:Opposite, almost. Newer Intel CPUs (Skylake and later) do further unsafe speculative execution that can't be avoided entirely with a retpoline construct, so they are forced to use the slower microcode-based mitigation instead. Well of course that's the case, because why not? I've only been in IT for 20 years. I should know better.
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Mar 14, 2019 19:21
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AlexDeGruven posted:Well of course that's the case, because why not? I've only been in IT for 20 years. I should know better. Yep, years of silicon in the pipe before Intel might do anything new to fix the speculative execution vulnerabilities in any way beyond microcode Band-Aids and telling programmers to get good and make all their code handle it. ...and given how many years it took for me to stop seeing machines with newer CPUs and the exact same TSX crash bug until new CPU microcode (that disabled TSX) was released for each on a relatively minor problem by comparison, I'm not hopeful. gourdcaptain fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 14, 2019 |
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Mar 14, 2019 19:23
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Stare-Out posted:I'll update it between jobs, that's not a problem. A notification to remind me to restart for new updates would be ideal but I don't mind having to do the whole thing manually if it means I don't waste hours on a task because Windows wrecked it by rebooting. Good news, either they're adding such a notification or already have.
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Mar 15, 2019 01:36
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Sweet, better incredibly late than never.
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Mar 15, 2019 02:40
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SouthShoreSamurai posted:No idea if this is the right place for this question, but I can't find any kind of "Random Questions Mega-Thread" like there are in other sub-forums. If there's a better place, let me know and I'll move this there... Or ctrl-f then copy that one then repeat. Easier than using adobe for anything. (You said the number you need is in the actual file name?) In the future sub sort into folders by year-month and have the YEAR-MM-DD in the name?
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Mar 15, 2019 12:08
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Oh joy, search stopped working at random. I went through a bunch of the troubleshooting tips I saw on Google and found they had no effect. Is this one of those "just do a refresh" things or is it worth digging deeper to figure out what's its loving problem? I really don't feel like doing either right now, frankly.
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Mar 15, 2019 14:24
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You can always hope for the April update to fix it.
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I'm really sorry if this gets asked a lot. I bought a laptop a year or two ago, I formatted the Windows hard drive and installed linux on it. Then I proceeded to never use this laptop more or less whatsoever. Well I think I'd like to try again but linux is still horrible, can I get Windows 10? Do I have to pay for it? All I have is the hardware, no box or paperwork or anything. It did come with Windows from the store.
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Nolgthorn posted:I'm really sorry if this gets asked a lot. It should have a firmware-based license for whatever edition of Windows you were using, and with a standard Windows install image it'll just pick that up. Make a USB thingy with the Media Creation Tool and remember to force the laptop to boot UEFI-style. You probably want to re-enable Secure Boot and turn off CSM or whatever your laptop's firmware calls it. (If your laptop even allows CSM (BIOS-style booting) in the first place; mine doesn't!) EDIT: You may have to re-do this if it doesn't boot UEFI-style; you do not want MBR/BIOS-style booting in 2019. You can check by opening up Disk Management and right-clicking on the system drive; if it says 'convert to GPT' you (or more likely the MCT) did it wrong, in which case use it to make an ISO instead and copy the files over to your flash drive manually, or just do that in the first place. OTHER EDIT: Then again all this assumes your laptop came with Windows 10. For Windows 8.1 you'll need an 8.1 install image and a way to make it into a flash drive (pick GPT, UEFI Only and FAT32 (large FAT32 is fine)) but otherwise it works the same; then use the MCT directly on the machine to put 10 on it because that still works somehow. Or hell, just format a flash drive, copy the contents of the ISO on to it and point your firmware at it at boot. "But it's supposed to be NTFS" UEFI does not mandate NTFS support in firmware, which means your flash drive might not boot at ALL, or might install an MBR/BIOS version instead of the GPT/EFI version we want. Use FAT32. For 7, things get complicated; come back if that's the case. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 15, 2019 |
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A minor annoyance, whenever I sign into my PC I get a notification that "There was a problem signing into one or more Microsoft accounts...." but when I click that notification I go to a screen that tells me all my accounts are signed in and working. Is it just a delay thing where the notification is getting ahead of the actual sign in process in the background? I tried running the troubleshooter for this issue and it found no issues. EDIT: Running Win10, latest update and all up to date.
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dont be mean to me posted:For Windows 8.1 you'll need an 8.1 install image
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Mar 15, 2019 20:20
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Do I need to give a poo poo about retpoline on an AMD Ryzen 1300x?
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c0burn posted:Do I need to give a poo poo about retpoline on an AMD Ryzen 1300x? You can just wait until 19H1; it's a performance thing, just a faster way to do a Spectre mitigation that - if you have updated firmware - is already covering your system.
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I want to replace a 500GB SSD with a 2TB SSD. I was thinking that the process would be using Clonezilla to mirror the old drive to new, and then using Windows to expand the volume (which I've done with other Windows machines). However I popped up Disk Management to check things out before doing this and... what in the gently caress is this layout? Should I just reinstall?
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I would reinstall. In theory a dynamic disk can have partitions extended into space that's not adjacent, but the one time I needed it to work it totally didn't so I'd say it's unreliable at best.
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Less Fat Luke posted:I want to replace a 500GB SSD with a 2TB SSD. I was thinking that the process would be using Clonezilla to mirror the old drive to new, and then using Windows to expand the volume (which I've done with other Windows machines). However I popped up Disk Management to check things out before doing this and... what in the gently caress is this layout? When you clone the drive, you should take the opportunity to move the EFI partition to the "front" and those two small Windows system partitions next to it, and then place the main partition on the end and expand it. Your system appears to have exceeded the space available in the normal single reserved partition for certain boot or recovery related files, and so created the second one in your unpartitioned space. This is relatively common for people who have moved an install from Windows 7 to a later OS, and sometimes crops up at major upgrades. If you want the partition table to be tidier, you can also try deleting the 100 MB partition on the new drive after the clone, and just keep the larger OEM partition, and then run boot repair off of a Windows 10 setup USB stick (after you remove the old SSD). This should ensure your new configuration is bootable.
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dont be mean to me posted:You can just wait until 19H1; it's a performance thing, just a faster way to do a Spectre mitigation that - if you have updated firmware - is already covering your system. Thanks for your help. I think I wasn't clear though. Does the performance improvement apply to my CPU?
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