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Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Chris James 2 posted:

https://www.theroot.com/thats-so-raven-star-kyle-massey-to-be-sued-for-sexual-1833348196 Former "That's So Raven" star Kyle Massey is accused of sending sexually explicit messages to a 13-year-old. The lawsuit (not yet formally filed) claims Massey met the child as a 4-year-old in 2009, and kept in touch with her to assist her career

Corey in the Big House

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Wasn't there another actor on that show that went fully bugfuck insane too?

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Chris James 2 posted:

https://www.theroot.com/thats-so-raven-star-kyle-massey-to-be-sued-for-sexual-1833348196 Former "That's So Raven" star Kyle Massey is accused of sending sexually explicit messages to a 13-year-old. The lawsuit (not yet formally filed) claims Massey met the child as a 4-year-old in 2009, and kept in touch with her to assist her career

:stonk:

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

PT6A posted:

Wasn't there another actor on that show that went fully bugfuck insane too?

Yeah, the guy who played her friend is pretty crazy and has been arrested a bunch of times. Per his wikipedia: "On December 21, 2018, an episode of The Dr. Phil Show aired focusing on Brown, who appeared confused and delusional. He stated Michael Jackson was his father and that he has four children, two of which he has never met and doesn't know their names or ages."

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Nickelodeon's live-action shows are not leaving a good legacy.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Nickelodeon's live-action shows are not leaving a good legacy.

They can't all be Pinwheel

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Nickelodeon's live-action shows are not leaving a good legacy.

That's So Raven was Disney so this fits with former Disney child stars losing their mind

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Nickelodeon's live-action shows are not leaving a good legacy.

That was Disney!

I actually can't think of any other Disney Channel shows I watched off the top of my head that starred rapists or sex offenders. I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Or maybe I just have a bad memory.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I mean it’s pretty open that Amanda Bynes was raped by the same producer that impregnated Britney Spears little sister and Ellen from Pete & Pete is a chud now. If Laurie Beth Dinberg ends up a grand wizard that’ll be a Hellworld hat trick.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
There was that one director that seemed to have a thing for shoot in kid's feet.

Chieves
Sep 20, 2010

Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:

That was Disney!

I actually can't think of any other Disney Channel shows I watched off the top of my head that starred rapists or sex offenders. I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Or maybe I just have a bad memory.

The Sprouse twins seem to have grown up quite well.

VoodooXT
Feb 24, 2006
I want Tong Po! Give me Tong Po!

Bust Rodd posted:

I mean it’s pretty open that Amanda Bynes was raped by the same producer that impregnated Britney Spears little sister and Ellen from Pete & Pete is a chud now. If Laurie Beth Dinberg ends up a grand wizard that’ll be a Hellworld hat trick.

Skwirl posted:

There was that one director that seemed to have a thing for shoot in kid's feet.

Same dude: Dan Schneider.

Anyway, TMZ reported today that Paris Jackson was hospitalized after a suicide attempt. Paris Jackson told them to gently caress off but who knows what the hell is going on right now, what with Blanket going silent.

VoodooXT fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Mar 17, 2019

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Bust Rodd posted:

Ellen from Pete & Pete is a chud now.
I did not know this. I'm pretty sure that this fact has echoed in time for me and my eight year old self feels sad now without knowing why.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm glad I never liked live action children's television. I wonder how much of it was outright created as bait to attract vulnerable children.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

VoodooXT posted:

Same dude: Dan Schneider.

Was he the one that issued a "Twitter challenge" or some poo poo for kids to write things on their feet and then send him pictures of it?

Between this and the YouTube child porn thing where people were getting kids to do "yoga challenges" and "gymnastics challenges" we should probably just treat all these challenges as the obvious pedo bullshit they are and arrest the perpetrators. I don't care how innocent or quirky it may seem (and these examples don't seem particularly innocent), they're probably getting their rocks off to sick poo poo and even if it's not literal child porn, something should be done about it.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

PT6A posted:

Was he the one that issued a "Twitter challenge" or some poo poo for kids to write things on their feet and then send him pictures of it?


Yes. It doesn’t appear anything is going to happen to him tho.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Bust Rodd posted:

I mean it’s pretty open that Amanda Bynes was raped by the same producer that impregnated Britney Spears little sister
Wait, what?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

STAC Goat posted:

Wait, what?

basically the dude in charge of all of nickelodeon's live action content was a creepy, obese pedo who was routinely left alone with 16 year old girls for days and weeks at a time, while also being their boss.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm aware of the guy's reputation for being a creep and the feet and stuff.

That seems like a long way away from "its open knowledge that he raped Amanda Bynes and impregnated Jamie Lynn Spears." I mean, obviously they're on the same path but what's informing those pretty specific and huge accusations? Has either woman accused him or something?

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Amanda tweeted about it in the middle of her breakdown back in '13, the Jamie stuff was brought up to numerous news outlets in '07

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

The whole thing about Dan Schneider being the father of Jamie Lynn’s baby is just a rumor. A pretty long-standing one, but it’s certainly not a confirmed truth. Schneider’s gross enough that it’s not that crazy, but I’m pretty sure the truth is more boring and that it was just her boyfriend, who if I recall was several years older than her too. That kid has to be at least ten now, I suppose if he looks like Dan Schneider jr. that would be pretty suspicious.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Dan Schneider collects pictures of children’s feet. I’m pretty sure we’re in the clear on this one, gang.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm not too fond of the "he's no angel" style of justification that just because they're guilty of one thing we can go ahead and throw all kinds of stuff on them without evidence.

If there's actually credible accusations or evidence or something, that's totally different though. Sounds like maybe there's something with Bynes? All I'm really finding in searches seems like Perez Hilton level toxic rumor mongering.

Again, Schneider is clearly at the very least a creeper. I'm not defending him, those accusations just stood out to me as pretty huge ones.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

STAC Goat posted:

I'm aware of the guy's reputation for being a creep and the feet and stuff.

That seems like a long way away from "its open knowledge that he raped Amanda Bynes and impregnated Jamie Lynn Spears." I mean, obviously they're on the same path but what's informing those pretty specific and huge accusations? Has either woman accused him or something?

https://twitter.com/totoxxyyxxremix/status/867904150788558849?lang=en

this twitter thread covers most of it. basically, there's no hard proof, but it fills in the blanks more neatly than anything else that's come out, and CDAN (which has been right about some really bonkers poo poo before) has directly called it out.

e: actually, nevermind, the only thing up in the air with Spears seems to be whether it was specifically Schneider and that's... not a hard guess to make. it's out in the open that her "acknowledged" baby-daddy wasn't the actual one and that the real father was "someone who worked on the show," and that the Spears family was... pretty loving spooked by the situation to the extent of paying the fake baby-daddy to pretend he was the real father.

WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Mar 17, 2019

albedoa
May 3, 2004

Bust Rodd posted:

Ellen from Pete & Pete is a chud now.

If you mean the Alison Fanelli loon on twitter, she says she's not the Pete & Pete actress. The real Ellen is now a pediatric surgeon who makes appearances at the occasional Pete & Pete reunion but not much else publicly.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Skwirl posted:

Don Cheedle was signed to a 9 movie deal when he took over for Terrence Howard in Iron Man 2, I'm certain there were a couple more films left on Batista's contract. But there's reasons to try and keep actors happy even if they have a legal obligation to be in your movie.

Disney is definitely not forcing contracts as Hugo Weaving said in an interview a couple of years ago that he had multiple appearances on his contract but he wasn't interested in doing it again and when the Red Skull finally came back it was a different actor.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
The reality of the MCU is that actors keep coming back because it’s stable, secure work in an industry where, even if you’re a white man (but especially so if you’re not), your career can end with a single flop.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Pirate Jet posted:

The reality of the MCU is that actors keep coming back because it’s stable, secure work in an industry where, even if you’re a white man (but especially so if you’re not), your career can end with a single flop.

Actually we're kind of post-flop (for white dudes). Blockbuster projects are mostly greenlit on the projected strength of the brand, not the stars in them. For example, Ryan Reynolds being allowed to do Deadpool after god knows how many flops and crap movies.

Whereas female directors disappear after one flop and actresses just stop getting parts after age 35 and sign deals with cosmetics companies.

However, we're also sort of post-flop in the sense that the international market can prop up movies that are outright failures in the west.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
I mean, who was the last person to have their career completey stall due to a flop? The last one that comes to mind is Cuba Gooding Jr, but thats really more down to a series of really poor choices post JERRY MAGUIRE. Jennifer Lawrence seems to do alright for herself, despite some lacklustre box office whenever she decides to headline a movie.

This was also a thing about Armie Hammer not that long ago, when a profile on him seemed to say that he was failing upwards and getting multiple chances for being a white man, when all he seemed to do was the same thing that everyone has done in that situation: forgo blockbusters to work in smaller movies.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



DrVenkman posted:

I mean, who was the last person to have their career completey stall due to a flop? The last one that comes to mind is Cuba Gooding Jr, but thats really more down to a series of really poor choices post JERRY MAGUIRE. Jennifer Lawrence seems to do alright for herself, despite some lacklustre box office whenever she decides to headline a movie.

This was also a thing about Armie Hammer not that long ago, when a profile on him seemed to say that he was failing upwards and getting multiple chances for being a white man, when all he seemed to do was the same thing that everyone has done in that situation: forgo blockbusters to work in smaller movies.

If it wasn't for his role in Avatar necessitating that he be in the sequels, Sam Worthington seems like someone Hollywood stopped trying to make a thing.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Actually we're kind of post-flop (for white dudes). Blockbuster projects are mostly greenlit on the projected strength of the brand, not the stars in them. For example, Ryan Reynolds being allowed to do Deadpool after god knows how many flops and crap movies.

Whereas female directors disappear after one flop and actresses just stop getting parts after age 35 and sign deals with cosmetics companies.

However, we're also sort of post-flop in the sense that the international market can prop up movies that are outright failures in the west.

On the other hand, Reynolds got Deadpool because he was incredibly dedicated to getting Deadpool made with himself in the lead. He started in 2004 after the comics joked about Deadpool looking like “Ryan Reynolds crossed with a Shar-Pei” and it was in development hell for years because of rights and other issues. It still didn’t get approved until the test footage he made got leaked and the online response convinced Fox that it would actually work. Had Reynolds not been so dedicated or had the leak not happened or worked, we may never have gotten the movie.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

chitoryu12 posted:

On the other hand, Reynolds got Deadpool because he was incredibly dedicated to getting Deadpool made with himself in the lead. He started in 2004 after the comics joked about Deadpool looking like “Ryan Reynolds crossed with a Shar-Pei” and it was in development hell for years because of rights and other issues. It still didn’t get approved until the test footage he made got leaked and the online response convinced Fox that it would actually work. Had Reynolds not been so dedicated or had the leak not happened or worked, we may never have gotten the movie.

There was a span of time where the movie was in development without him attached. Imagine if that had happened.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Ryan Reynolds has always been a more marketable Dane Cook from Canada and the reason he failed upward into to true success is because he saved up all of his dollarydoos and basically funded the good Deadpool movie himself.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Bust Rodd posted:

Ryan Reynolds has always been a more marketable Dane Cook from Canada and the reason he failed upward into to true success is because he saved up all of his dollarydoos and basically funded the good Deadpool movie himself.

The difference between them is Dane Cook is a comedian while Ryan Reynolds is funny.

Plus I think it’s easier than ever to claw your way back from obscurity thanks to social media.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Ryan Reynolds also seems to have a lot of A lister friends.

Which hey at least nepotism got us Deadpool?

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
i don't understand, was ryan reynolds accused of something

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cease to Hope posted:

i don't understand, was ryan reynolds accused of something

He just made a lot of flops.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Cease to Hope posted:

i don't understand, was ryan reynolds accused of something

No, this is just a tangent of a tangent of a tangent at this point.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Coffee And Pie posted:

Plus I think it’s easier than ever to claw your way back from obscurity thanks to social media.

It's certainly become easier to court the right-wing crowd for fame when you lose the broader public.

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Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Ryan Reynolds made Just Friends and Deadpool so y'all need to shut the gently caress up right now

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