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lancemantis posted:sure the problem is that people like them and hold on to them sounds like you need a time machine sucker
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mine is probably going to live out its last days as a sand dune thrash machine and its gonna own
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lancemantis posted:if you took away the magical bourgeoisie carpool lane pass from hybrid/electric vehicles in california you'd probably crater the sales The last study I saw said there’s no doubt about that.
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Sagebrush posted:washing machines too. put clothes inside, dump in however much laundry soap seems right, crank it to large load warm water and walk away. every other setting is a mystery that you shouldn't touch because you'll screw it up. This is a shame too because laundry symbols are rad I want to get a "Dry flat in the shade" symbol tattoo
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infernal machines posted:a bunch of places do. it's bullshit. we have the HOT system in minnesota for some of the heavy commuter roads and it seems to work fine. they even turn the system on and off depending on the time of day, so during non-rush hour even single-occupant cars can use the lane e: also we don't have the EV loophole sticker because most of our state level politicians have half a brain or more Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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My Linux Rig posted:do they seriously allow ev vehicles in the hov lanes with one passenger yes and the result is that travel times in hov lanes here don't actually reduce total trip times during peak traffic because they're so clogged, to the point that it's interfering with federal maintenance funds for these lanes fortunately the state passed a law making all the stickers on cars from before 2017 expire that happened jan 1st this year - kicking off like a quarter million vehicles, so that should help it's income-limited now too: $150,000 for single filers, $204,000 for head-of-household and $300,000 for joint filers
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My Linux Rig posted:do they seriously allow ev vehicles in the hov lanes with one passenger here in the bay area they are adding new hov lanes but solo drivers can pay to use them 
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DELETE CASCADE posted:here in the bay area they are adding new hov lanes but solo drivers can pay to use them yes this is a known city planning technique that has various societal benefits
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i guess if you count making the high occupancy lane useless a benefit, sure.
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make it into a motorcycle-only lane imo also make it legal to thrash cars with chains and crowbars if they try to muscle in
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Also all motorcycles have to be from the 90s: road rash but it's my life
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infernal machines posted:i guess if you count making the high occupancy lane useless a benefit, sure. how is prcingg formed. how engineers design traffac
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?? i guess if you live in a place that doesn't have a regional transit network where buses use those lanes, and also you don't give a gently caress about encouraging carpooling, yes, making a fast lane for the wealthy makes perfect sense.
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we're trying to reduce congestion and discourage single occupant vehicle trips, unless you're rich, in which case, go hog wild
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Lutha Mahtin posted:how is prcingg formed. how engineers design traffac i find it hard to believe that any engineers were invloved in making taht choice
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also engineers are notorious for being loving morons, their opinions don't mean squat
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Seeing how american roads are designed I would be wary to accept an american traffic "engineer" advice. Here let's put 20 stop signs and make on ramps a rocket launch platform
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Improbable Lobster posted:i find it hard to believe that any engineers were invloved in making taht choice they're not, and in fact the political positions involved in making those decisions were probably told it was a bad idea but they're still going in. $100 tolls baybeee i hope they get the toll scanners working well enough to only charge the cars in the oligarch lane and not the adjacent ones like they sometimes do now
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lmao if you live in the suburbs https://twitter.com/tfgridiron/status/1107985994945581057
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Endless Mike posted:lmao if you live in the suburbs 'id love to pay my employees more than minimum wage but there's overhead"
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sounds like the tolls are too low although this being VA, i'm guessing there are no trains or anything either, so it's more like drive or don't go
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infernal machines posted:we're trying to reduce congestion and discourage single occupant vehicle trips, unless you're rich, in which case, go hog wild if the prices were exorbitant for using it outside of carpooling and it all went to funding public transit, I wouldn’t be too against that but I’m guessing that is not the case here
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hov lanes seem to be bullshit in the first place they reduce the effective lane count of roads at peak traffic hours, making congestion worse and often making the road less safe due to high speed difference between hov and normal lanes i admit i have no data to back this up but i would be amazed if the net increase in passengers per vehicle offsets the downsides. anecdotally, before they started selling hov indulgences in California, the hov lanes were mostly empty during rush hour. now they’ve just filled them back up with single occupant cars whose owners are rich enough to carve out an exception for themselves bandaids like hov won’t ever work imo. the only real solution is to finally suck in our collective fat american guts and get to work building real mass transit systems but lol at the chances of that happening in our late capitalist foreverially corrupted (and loving it) hellworld
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Problem: We have too many cars. Solution: Ban cars.
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Pre-emptive  in the direction of Shaggar
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BobHoward posted:hov lanes seem to be bullshit in the first place the main part of their bullshit is that they serve lower capacity than a regularass lane while still taking up the same space (or even a little more) this is because legislators think they can direct traffic behavior using as little effort as possible so instead of doing anything concrete that gets cars off of roads, they went with "how bout we widen the roads, and this time it'll be different because we widened them differently" - all without actually addressing why so many people need to drive in the first place
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iospace posted:Problem: We have too many cars.
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No joke a conversation I had today: "It took me 15 minutes to get home today" "It would take you 15 minutes if you walked to work" "... but that would require putting myself at risk!"
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iospace posted:"... but that would require putting myself at risk!"
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infernal machines posted:sounds like the tolls are too low 
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evil_bunnY posted:Don't the US have like 20-40k death by car per loving year? yeah but those are just the bad drivers, not like me
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mystes posted:I think the start location in that map is literally on top of the dunn loring metro station. lmao. you're right. eat a sack of dicks tollhavers. if you're spending $50 to sit in your car for an hour instead of taking the metro, you deserve it.
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The best part of the Metro is YOU'RE A PASSENGER, YOU GET TO SIT ON YOUR PHONE AND DICK AROUND AND NO ONE WILL YELL AT YOU. Unless you have sound on or are talking loudly on the phone, in which case you're a dick.
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Oh, and riding your bike means you get exercise. Which explains why Shaggar hates it 
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I honestly can't imagine anyone willingly inflicting that commute by car on themselves, but if you live somewhere really far out it also can be more time consuming/expensive to even get to public transportation. On the other hand, the people who are commuting from places like Purcellvile are people who are willing to become supercommuters in exchange for having nicer houses so they might be crazy in the first place.
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I did a supercommute once, but it was pretty much because the cost of having to rent two places at once was more expensive than paying for one and gas.
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iospace posted:The best part of the Metro is YOU'RE A PASSENGER, YOU GET TO SIT ON YOUR PHONE AND DICK AROUND AND NO ONE WILL YELL AT YOU. lol driving a car doesn't stop a ton of people from still doing that
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My Linux Rig posted:if the prices were exorbitant for using it outside of carpooling and it all went to funding public transit, I wouldn’t be too against that the local transit authority will keep the money (there's no regional transit authority, it's all little fiefdoms) but they're restricted to spending it "within the corridor" on whatever transportation projects the locals decide they've already indicated that they want to use the profits to further expand these express lanes along 101 all the way between san francisco and san jose, but this transit authority also operates a light rail service in the area that's getting built out (as well as buses), so it could potentially get used for that
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Bulgakov posted:lol driving a car doesn't stop a ton of people from still doing that Yeah but this way you get to do it legally. And avoid tickets.
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