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Dr. Killjoy posted:rational and good-faith actors It's why capitalism is the best way to distribute resources...
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Mar 19, 2019 23:05
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Her real secret was putting weird creepy rich guys in the friend zone.
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Mar 19, 2019 23:09
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Food Boner posted:not to dogpile but cmon I'm saying I can see where people would suppress some doubt in the back of their minds because of this
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Mar 19, 2019 23:11
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I can't but think a big factor in Theranos was rich old fucks going "WOW THIS poo poo IS AWESOME" and then some expert scientist type points out it's total nonsense, but all the rich gently caress sees is Snively Robotnik daring to kill his investment boner and slaps down a multi-million dollar cheque with a resounding "gently caress YOU, NERD"
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Mar 19, 2019 23:20
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Ytlaya posted:I have an idea for a pill that will cure all cancers. Sure, my idea probably won't work, but wouldn't it be amazing and ambitious if it did? Reminds me of the bit from Tom Segura about his rear end in a top hat cousin who just 'invents' stuff: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/bopc55/mash-up-algorithm---little-muddy---tom-segura---inventor-cousin You see it's a phone that drives your car... Wow, that's great how does it work? Well, just you, you know program it.
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Mar 19, 2019 23:30
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Shifty Pony posted:people have been trying to make it a thing since forever. like seriously there are entire classes of patents for fully automated cocktail systems. as an amateur cocktail maker, i think a cocktail machine would be super limited even if you used a lot of really expensive robotics. like im not sure the research exists to build a reliable robot that can cleanly and sanitarily slice a citrus fruit in all of the ways that you need to for standard cocktails
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Mar 19, 2019 23:34
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Lutha Mahtin posted:as an amateur cocktail maker, i think a cocktail machine would be super limited even if you used a lot of really expensive robotics. like im not sure the research exists to build a reliable robot that can cleanly and sanitarily slice a citrus fruit in all of the ways that you need to for standard cocktails I was going to say “any mass market cocktail machine is going to be to an actual bartender what keurig is to anyone who owns a coffee grinder” before I remembered Keurig literally set this derail in motion so lol Basically expect powered citrus “flavor packets”
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Mar 19, 2019 23:39
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Lutha Mahtin posted:as an amateur cocktail maker, i think a cocktail machine would be super limited even if you used a lot of really expensive robotics. like im not sure the research exists to build a reliable robot that can cleanly and sanitarily slice a citrus fruit in all of the ways that you need to for standard cocktails If you think all bartenders reliably, cleanly and sanitarily slice a citrus fruit, you maybe want to sit down, i have some bad news for you... Also I imagine you slice the citrus and add it yourself as a finishing touch, together with the straw or whatever. That said, yeah cocktail machines suck in theory and in practice. It'll be just like the self-service kiosks at mcdonalds, but with even worse UI and execution in general.
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Mar 19, 2019 23:44
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I was going to say “any mass market cocktail machine is going to be to an actual bartender what keurig is to anyone who owns a coffee grinder” before I remembered Keurig literally set this derail in motion so lol  Japan has us beat.
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Mar 19, 2019 23:59
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Lutha Mahtin posted:it's basically the sales pitch from the white van speaker scam. telling a lie in order to spin a "sale" that is extremely time-limited is one of the oldest tricks in the book it's called 'creating a sense of urgency' and it is indeed sales 101
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Mar 20, 2019 00:00
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Although I do see the marketing angle, "Hey owner of poo poo night club, tired of your staff stealing, over pouring and loving up cocktails? Well do I have the solution for you!!!". I've worked in the industry for close to 15 years in various roles (management now) and seriously the best, and in my view only, solution to basically every problem a club or bar might have is to pay your staff well and treat them like adults. I've NEVER seen a technical solution fix anything other then perhaps really corporate chains, but i mean they'll suck either way.
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Mar 20, 2019 00:02
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yeah a bar would really suck if it was staffed by robots. also why is there rubi on the instructions for the liquor vending machine, isnt rubi used so kids can read more complex/advanced kanji?
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Mar 20, 2019 00:12
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Churchill posted:If you think all bartenders reliably, cleanly and sanitarily slice a citrus fruit, you maybe want to sit down, i have some bad news for you... Also I imagine you slice the citrus and add it yourself as a finishing touch, together with the straw or whatever. you must go to some divey bars lol and yeah you are correct that fruit is used as a garnish, but it is also used as an actual ingredient. and my more general point is that there are many regular, non-exotic cocktails that have ingredients that don't (or shouldn't) come out of a bottle, and all of these require many different forms of manual dexterity. so unless you are going to build a perfect set of robotic hands and eyes, or you're going to build some rube goldberg monstrosity with like eight different attachments for limes and six for oranges and seven for mint, you are going to have a machine that saves a marginal amount of time on a small % of the drinks you serve
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Mar 20, 2019 00:14
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Churchill posted:the best, and in my view only, solution to basically every problem a club or bar might have is to pay your staff well and treat them like adults. *laughs in capitalism* Good one, now where's the robot?
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Mar 20, 2019 00:20
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Wachter posted:I can't but think a big factor in Theranos was rich old fucks going "WOW THIS poo poo IS AWESOME" and then some expert scientist type points out it's total nonsense, but all the rich gently caress sees is Snively Robotnik daring to kill his investment boner and slaps down a multi-million dollar cheque with a resounding "gently caress YOU, NERD" no, it wasn't even that sophisticated. it was a bunch of VC investors looking at some 19 year old with a handdrawn sketch on the back of a biology 101 test she failed going 'well she wears a black turtleneck, seems legit' and giving her millions of dollars.
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Mar 20, 2019 00:24
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I'm watching this Theranos documentary finally and holy poo poo this woman is certifiably insane just looking at her and watching her talk.
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Mar 20, 2019 00:25
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probably the biggest takeway is how easy it is to fool investors. like, going "What if coffee tables, but internet?" and then putting your hand out for them to fill it with money
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Mar 20, 2019 00:27
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Taintrunner posted:I'm watching this Theranos documentary finally and holy poo poo this woman is certifiably insane just looking at her and watching her talk. the voice is 100% fake
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Mar 20, 2019 00:27
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:the voice is 100% fake I know! And it's so obviously fake.
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Mar 20, 2019 00:28
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Lutha Mahtin posted:you must go to some divey bars lol It's really the same problem as Juicero. Sure it saves a little time have a machine that can squeeze fruit into a smoothie, but why the gently caress would I spend $100+ plus on that?? Why the gently caress am i gonna spend hundreds of dollars on a machine that takes two fluids and mixes them together, and then puts a little salt on top?
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Mar 20, 2019 00:29
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A big flaming stink posted:It's really the same problem as Juicero. Sure it saves a little time have a machine that can squeeze fruit into a smoothie, but why the gently caress would I spend $100+ plus on that?? Why the gently caress am i gonna spend hundreds of dollars on a machine that takes two fluids and mixes them together, and then puts a little salt on top? the thing with juicero is that if it was a mechanism that could easily make actual juice, which is a loving pain in the rear end to make at home, then maybe it'd have a market, but it just takes a bunch of pulped fruit and squeezes them. that's not even a thing! i do wish there was a quality blender that could make completely smooth smoothies that doesn't cost $400 (gently caress you vitamix and blendtec).
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Mar 20, 2019 00:33
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Re: Theranos and how cool and good it would be if it actually worked, I feel like this video is on-topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGMY63FF3Q
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Mar 20, 2019 00:33
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:probably the biggest takeway is how easy it is to fool investors. the more things change the more they stay the same  i think this leisuretown was made in like 1998
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Mar 20, 2019 00:34
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My takeaway from the book was that any rational skepticism investors may have had about the legitimacy of Theranos tech was overshadowed by the slim possibility that Holmes had done the impossible and they'd be turning down kajillions of dollars of profit if they walked away from the table. Not only that, but those kajillions of dollars would go to their competitors instead!! So everyone fell over themselves and threw money at Theranos in order to obtain exclusive rights in what would have been a multi-billion dollar market. There simply wasn't any time for due diligence in this scenario. tl;dr: greed
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Mar 20, 2019 00:35
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Lutha Mahtin posted:you must go to some divey bars lol I sure do! I work at a fairly fancy bar/night club so yeah gently caress going somewhere like that in my time off. You are right of course, I was just going for a cheap dig. The solution naturally is powdered lime, as mentioned by another poster earlier. Either that or preloading the robot with the cuts or slices of fruit you might neeed in slots or whatever, which is even more ridiculous so I fully expect that to be a thing somewhere. Either that or give someone money and teach them to do it with their hands, but thats not disruptive and only nerds do it that way bro
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:the thing with juicero is that if it was a mechanism that could easily make actual juice, which is a loving pain in the rear end to make at home, then maybe it'd have a market, but it just takes a bunch of pulped fruit and squeezes them. that's not even a thing! On the flip side as a engineer I really enjoyed the hilarious Juicero tear-down article.
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Mar 20, 2019 00:40
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Lote posted:
I live in Pennsylvania, home of state monopolies, complicated things involving distributors, and weird laws regarding ounces sold at convenience stores, so this is some star trek poo poo from here
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Mar 20, 2019 00:41
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Taintrunner posted:I'm watching this Theranos documentary finally and holy poo poo this woman is certifiably insane just looking at her and watching her talk. 
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Mar 20, 2019 00:50
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Wachter posted:I can't but think a big factor in Theranos was rich old fucks going "WOW THIS poo poo IS AWESOME" and then some expert scientist type points out it's total nonsense, but all the rich gently caress sees is Snively Robotnik daring to kill his investment boner and slaps down a multi-million dollar cheque with a resounding "gently caress YOU, NERD" <doing dumb poo poo> to own the <big doodyheads and their skepticism> is probably going to end up at the core of the far-future postmortem that'll get written on the first great tech bubble of the 21st century. Thousands of people intentionally bought in, at great expense, to the mere possibility of owning a vehicle known to specialize in no fewer than four (drowning, crushing via opportunistic collision, decapitation via precision collision, spontaneous combustion) ways of automatically killing passengers. Contemporary records share one common thread in explaining why these thousands of people laid down such sums on what is effectively a rickety suicide booth: "owning the shorts" was more important than anything including survival. Posterity need inquire no further.
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*even further in the future* Owning shorts was important due to the unchecked rise of sea levels at the time
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Mar 20, 2019 00:56
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Shugojin posted:I live in Pennsylvania, home of state monopolies, complicated things involving distributors, and weird laws regarding ounces sold at convenience stores, so this is some star trek poo poo from here Ah yes. Fond memories of visiting PA and spending 15+ minutes trying to find where the gently caress the beer was in the grocery store. I ended up buying a sixer from a restaurant next-door.
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:Ah yes. Fond memories of visiting PA and spending 15+ minutes trying to find where the gently caress the beer was in the grocery store. I ended up buying a sixer from a restaurant next-door. If it wasn't in the last few years, it was nowhere in the grocery store if it was in the last few years, it would have been in a special part of the store with separate registers and a iirc no less than 30 seats because they're all bar licenses
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Mar 20, 2019 01:24
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Shugojin posted:I live in Pennsylvania, home of state monopolies, complicated things involving distributors, and weird laws regarding ounces sold at convenience stores, so this is some star trek poo poo from here A dumb rust belt state in which the only center of civilization is overrun with one of the worst type of sports fan.
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Mar 20, 2019 01:27
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hey we recently let grocery stores get licensed to sell beer!!!
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Mar 20, 2019 01:27
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I wasted a lot of time in Indiana walking around looking for a cold six-pack of beer before I realized that nobody carries them, at all, anywhere. Mmmm, warm beer in July in Indiana. Now preparing for the 3-page "state liquor laws are wacky" derail.
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Mar 20, 2019 01:30
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Shugojin posted:If it wasn't in the last few years, it was nowhere in the grocery store At the time I was there, beer could only be purchased by the case at some loving warehouse. Can't buy liquor at that warehouse though. Nope, you have to go to a specialty state liquor store for that. Jesus loving christ I just wanted to get my drink on. EDIT: sorry, berth ell pup!
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Mar 20, 2019 01:32
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she had this awfully compelling baritone
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"she was really good at lying"
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but more seriously, you greedy motherfuckers got blinded by the concept of money, she gave you all a blatant impersonation of Steve Jobs and the idea that it was an iPhone for the healthcare industry and you couldn't throw money at it fast enough stop pretending you aren't just suckers
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